RE: Copying Boot disk.

2002-01-11 Thread zohar

1)2nd CD
2)boot:
immediately TAB 
3)manual
4)select language, keyboard layout,etc.
5)YAST1
6)settings
7)system info
this is the way I created bootdisk after the installation. But mine is
7.1 pro with 7 CD. I can go only till 5 even for complete installation.
What is in 6th and 7th I do not know.

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Subject: Re: Copying Boot disk.


- Original Message -
From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: Copying Boot disk.


 Recently built a quad boot (Win98/Mandrake 8.0/W3.1b/SuSe 7.2) box. To
 keep down traffic congestion in the mbr I boot into the SuSe using a
 floppy boot disk. For safety's sake I want to make a few duplicate
boot
 disks. No matter how I try to go about it I get an error message that
 says the floppy drive can't recognize the file system on the floppy
boot
 disk, except in Win where the error messages claims that the floppy
boot
 disk isn't formatted. How do you make a copy of a linux boot floppy in
 general and SuSe in particular.

 Lee
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I have run into this problem, as well.  I finally found out that the
distro
I was using, installed a Minix file system on the floppy before copying
the
boot data to the disk.  YMMV.  I think I was running a SuSE distro at
the
time.  Seems to me they used the minix fs to save space on the floppy.

If you are running SuSE 7.2 or 7.3 Pro, check the Reference Manual -
look in
the index for boot disks or rescue disks.  Sorry I can't give you more
specific information.

OTOH, since you *are* running a recent SuSE distro, you should be able
to
make a duplicate in YaST 2.  Look at YaST 2=Control Center=System, and
then under boot disks or rescue disks - I'm kinda hazy on the last stop,
there.

HTH

73 de Glenn

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Re: Copying Boot disk.

2002-01-11 Thread Lee

Previously, you (Bruce Marshall) wrote:
 On Friday 11 January 2002 16:42 pm, Lee wrote:
  Thanks for the help. Used Yast2 as Glenn suggested, but that makes an
  install disk. To boot into the installed system from it you have to boot
  into install at lightoff. Leave the cd out of the tray answer the
  install questions until you get to the install menu. Select install.
  That takes you to a new menu that has boot installed system as an
  option. Select that. Then answer the question that wants to know what
  partition to boot. Then just sit back, put your hands in your pockets
  and watch the bootup scroll until it reaches the kde login screen. It's
  slow and cumbersome, but as it's only for a backup to the normal disk it
  ain't bad. Although it would be nice to just copy the boot disk from
  floppy disk to floppy disk. Thanks again guys. Now I don't have to worry
  about the dog eating the boot disk.
 
  Lee
 
 Did you try the method I suggested for copying your original boot floppy?
 
 using 'dd' ??

Yeah, only it didn't work. Kept getting either no such device or no such file (even in 
root). I think it may have something to do with SuSe 7.2 keeping floppy in a file 
called /media. Tried substituting /media/floppy and /media/fd0 for /device/floppy and 
fd0 but it didn't work. But then, we're dealing withthe folks who invented the 
panzerwagon beetle.

Lee

P.S. Please disregard any mispellings. I'm using peanut Linux now  for a hoot and the 
V-mail doesn't have a spell corrector. So, I've got to wing it for spelling and typos.
 
 
 
 
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Re: Copying Boot disk.

2002-01-11 Thread Bruce Marshall

On Friday 11 January 2002 13:04 pm, Lee wrote:
  
  Did you try the method I suggested for copying your original boot floppy?
  
  using 'dd' ??

 Yeah, only it didn't work. Kept getting either no such device or no such
 file (even in root). I think it may have something to do with SuSe 7.2
 keeping floppy in a file called /media. Tried substituting /media/floppy
 and /media/fd0 for /device/floppy and fd0 but it didn't work. But then,
 we're dealing withthe folks who invented the panzerwagon beetle.

I hope you didn't mount the floppy first   (which is the only way it 
would be placed as /media/floppy

Don't mount the floppy.   You're going to copy the floppy to a disk file and 
then re-write the disk file to a new floppy.   No mounts required.



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Re: Copying boot disk

2002-01-11 Thread Glenn Williams

Hello, Lee:

I don't wish to belabor this point.  Evidently I was misunderstood, or 
perhaps there were errors in what I wrote.

Four or 5 months ago, I tried to make a copy of the LILO boot floppy 
that was created when I installed SuSE Linux 7.2  I discovered it was 
impossible to do so.  I later read that the reason it can't be copied 
has to do with the unique file system installed on the floppy disk 
before the boot info is copied to the disk.

Ron White related a similar experience, IIRC.  I believe he wrote to 
SuSE to ask why he was unable to copy his LILO boot floppy.  As I 
recall, he did not get a satisfactory explanation.

I sent a more detailed message to you privately in hopes it would be 
clearer than the vague procedure I outlined in my first reply to you.

Moments ago, to prove (again) to myself that it could be done, I 
duplicated that procedure, and created a LILO boot floppy,  not an 
installation boot disk.  Here's what I did:

Click the YaST2 icon in the panel.  Click Control 
Center=System=Configure Boot Mode.  A Custom LILO Installation dialog 
appears.  There are 4 radio buttons; click the 2nd button (Create boot 
floppy).  You may not be prompted to insert a (IBM) formatted floppy; 
do so anyway.

I was lucky - several nights ago, we had a 1 hour power outage, 
complete with surges and sags.  Both my Linux/Windows XP machines were 
running.  When the dust settled, I could not boot into this Linux 
automatically using the LILO on the hard drive.  I whipped out my 
handy-dandy LILO boot floppy, repaired LILO on the hard disk and went 
merrily on my way.

Best regards,

Glenn
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Re: Copying boot disk

2002-01-11 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Copying boot disk


[whole lotta snippin']

 I'm not sure what you mean by a boot floppy.  If you mean a floppy
that
 boots a kernel it contains (and probably mounts / as a ramdisk
contained on
 another floppy) then what you did or dd are both good ways to make
another.

Well, as I said, I was unable to read the LILO floppy by any means I
knew of, back then.  I *assume* there's a copy of LILO on the disk, and
it simply runs LILO to boot the installed system(s).  In SuSE 7.2 and
7.3, creating the LILO floppy is an option offered during the
installation.  Sometimes it is *not* an option - it is done by default.
In just such a case, that was initially the reason I wanted to copy it
(to a file on the hard drive) - so I could then use a readable copy to
build my /etc/lilo.conf on the hard drive, which the installation failed
to create on my hard drive.

I didn't try the method Bruce suggested - but I am sure I will do so at
my next opportunity, since it's a little easier than the YaST2 method.

[snip]

Regards,

Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user # 135678 since 1994
Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988

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Alternate. was Re: Copying boot disk

2002-01-11 Thread Mike Andrew

On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:22, Glenn Williams wrote:
[snip]
 From: Dave Anselmi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]

I dont' have floppies, period, on any of my systems. (well ok, one ls120 
external)

this leaves me exposed to boot problems.

the answer is, boot from *any* cd-bootable linux distro and type the magic 
words

linux single root=/dev/somewhere boot=/dev/somewhere_else noinitrd

all verbs except noinitrd are optional in the sense that they are dependant 
on what exactly it is you're trying to 'get at'. 

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Copying Boot disk.

2002-01-10 Thread Lee

Recently built a quad boot (Win98/Mandrake 8.0/W3.1b/SuSe 7.2) box. To
keep down traffic congestion in the mbr I boot into the SuSe using a
floppy boot disk. For safety's sake I want to make a few duplicate boot
disks. No matter how I try to go about it I get an error message that
says the floppy drive can't recognize the file system on the floppy boot
disk, except in Win where the error messages claims that the floppy boot
disk isn't formatted. How do you make a copy of a linux boot floppy in
general and SuSe in particular.

Lee
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Re: Copying Boot disk.

2002-01-10 Thread Glenn Williams


- Original Message -
From: Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:08 PM
Subject: Copying Boot disk.


 Recently built a quad boot (Win98/Mandrake 8.0/W3.1b/SuSe 7.2) box. To
 keep down traffic congestion in the mbr I boot into the SuSe using a
 floppy boot disk. For safety's sake I want to make a few duplicate boot
 disks. No matter how I try to go about it I get an error message that
 says the floppy drive can't recognize the file system on the floppy boot
 disk, except in Win where the error messages claims that the floppy boot
 disk isn't formatted. How do you make a copy of a linux boot floppy in
 general and SuSe in particular.

 Lee
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I have run into this problem, as well.  I finally found out that the distro
I was using, installed a Minix file system on the floppy before copying the
boot data to the disk.  YMMV.  I think I was running a SuSE distro at the
time.  Seems to me they used the minix fs to save space on the floppy.

If you are running SuSE 7.2 or 7.3 Pro, check the Reference Manual - look in
the index for boot disks or rescue disks.  Sorry I can't give you more
specific information.

OTOH, since you *are* running a recent SuSE distro, you should be able to
make a duplicate in YaST 2.  Look at YaST 2=Control Center=System, and
then under boot disks or rescue disks - I'm kinda hazy on the last stop,
there.

HTH

73 de Glenn

Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux User # 135678 - since 1994
Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988

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