Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:33,Mike Andrew scribed: Yep, I second that, 4 gig is around my limit per Linux distro, and I keep a common scsi 3gig drive for umm errr archives and downloads and things. I was reading somewhere that 8gig is an 'optimimum' for the linux ext2fs . It wasn't based on the (now mercifully obsolete) 8 gig bios limit, but something to do with bitlengths used for ext2fs lba, or file node hashing, or, well, something. I have a 15gig partition!! but that is not for an OS its for video. -- Keith Antoine aka 'skippy' 18 Arkana St, The Gap, Queensland 4061 Australia PH:61733002161 Retired Geriatric, Sometime Electronics Engineer, Knowall, Brain in storage ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
- Original Message - From: Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:08 PM Subject: Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too. [schnippen] Hi, Joel: Take a look at: www.bcd2000.com They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is priced at $159. FWIW Regards, Glenn Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 - since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
My son just got a copy of XP professional for $20 from his school. Student discount. That is the kind of price I am trying to get. Joel Take a look at: www.bcd2000.com They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is priced at $159. FWIW Regards, Glenn Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 - since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
Still about $20 above its value. --- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My son just got a copy of XP professional for $20 from his school. Student discount. That is the kind of price I am trying to get. Joel Take a look at: www.bcd2000.com They have XP Home (full version) for 99 bux, but their XP Pro is priced at $159. FWIW Regards, Glenn = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:30:02AM -0800, Net Llama wrote: Still about $20 above its value. No. Several hundred dollars above its value considering the damage it can do. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``Liberty don't work as good in practice as it does in speeches.'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:03, Collins Richey wrote: I've experimented with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per distro or a separate /home partition as second choice Unless you plan to download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded). So, I would carve the drive up into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present). Yep, I second that, 4 gig is around my limit per Linux distro, and I keep a common scsi 3gig drive for umm errr archives and downloads and things. I was reading somewhere that 8gig is an 'optimimum' for the linux ext2fs . It wasn't based on the (now mercifully obsolete) 8 gig bios limit, but something to do with bitlengths used for ext2fs lba, or file node hashing, or, well, something. I think you'd really have to push the envelope to make a big linux partition per OS. If you're heavily into image and sound then really, those files are a candidate for a separate drive or partition. If you're wondering technically if there's anything spooky about such a large drive and optimimum partition sizes because of that, then, yes, there *would* be some timing esoterica spanning the entire disk surface, but the effort you'd spend tweaking would be wasted. -- http://linux.nf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer, faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I use LILO. Thanks, Joel I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:51:25PM -0500, Joel Hammer wrote: Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer, faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I use LILO. Are you sure you don't mean an 80GB drive? I probably have a couple of 70MB Maxtor MFM drives sitting around as door stops left over from my Tandy 6000 days. Bill -- INTERNET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX:(206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``No matter how much I may exaggerate it, it must have a certain amount of truth...Now rumor travels fast but it don't stay put as long as truth'' Will Rogers ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Monday 07 January 2002 17:51, Joel Hammer wrote: Can someone point me to an up to date discussion on how to partition a disk this size? I want to use this disk as my primary drive (newer, faster, bigger) and I need some information on partitioning it. I use LILO. Thanks, Joel I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. I presume you mean an 80GB dirve, which is indeed large. I've experimented with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per distro or a separate /home partition as second choice Unless you plan to download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded). So, I would carve the drive up into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present). Tell us more about your plans for the drive - multiple distros, big databases, music library, ??? My usual distro is ELX -pre1, but I put up FreeBSD for fun. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area WWTLRD? - FreeBSD 4.4 with KDE ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
Gigs, megs, what the difference? Yes, I do mean gigs. Joel Are you sure you don't mean an 80GB drive? I probably have a couple of 70MB Maxtor MFM drives sitting around as door stops ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too. I will use most of this drive as a big storage unit for: 1. All those mp3's which my family loads off the internet (five people can fill up a hard drive fast with mp3's). 2. Backing up my home network. 3. I will back up the working partitions (linux, XP) to another computer on my home network. Joel I presume you mean an 80GB dirve, which is indeed large. I've experimented with various partitionings, but I always come back to a single partition per distro or a separate /home partition as second choice Unless you plan to download tons of MP3/OGG files, movie clips, iso images, etc. ... I never manage to get more than about 5GB used (with both KDE and gnome and OpenOffice, and a few iso images downloaded). So, I would carve the drive up into 10-15GB chunks max (I use 6.4GB max at present). Tell us more about your plans for the drive - multiple distros, big databases, music library, ??? ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:08:35 -0500 Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: I want to use this drive to boot several versions of linux. If I can get a cheap copy of XP, I will want to put that on there, too. I will use most of this drive as a big storage unit for: 1. All those mp3's which my family loads off the internet (five people can fill up a hard drive fast with mp3's). 2. Backing up my home network. 3. I will back up the working partitions (linux, XP) to another computer on my home network. Joel Have you thought about using LVM? I'd keep a small /boot (15-20Mb) with an initrd which basically runs vgscan then vgchange -a y. Then as you fill a volume, you just add another chunk. Ciao, David A. Bandel -- Focus on the dream, not the competition. -- Nemesis Racing Team motto Internet (H323) phone: 206.28.187.30 ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
I am using a 2.4.5 kernel patched for win4lin. The LVM HOWTO calls for 2.4.9. kernels and earlier to be patched. I get real use out of win4lin (gotta be able to run word and excel and nlreg, and my wife uses it for AOL when her windows box goes down) and it is working perfectly, at this time. I just don't want to have to patch my already patched kernel, since it was a bear getting everything on win4lin working right (networking, printing) and I have found that it is really easy to break win4lin. Joel On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 09:43:27PM -0500, David A. Bandel wrote: Have you thought about using LVM? I'd keep a small /boot (15-20Mb) with an initrd which basically runs vgscan then vgchange -a y. Then as you fill a volume, you just add another chunk. ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive (Or 80 Gigs?)
Was it Joel Hammer who wrote on Sunday 06 January 2002 00:32: I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. Do I need this card with linux? Thanks, Joel I presume it is an 80 Gig drive. The advice I would offer is that if it simply has a normal ide 40 pin connector, you'd be fine with standard systems. The standard 40 pin connector only does 16 bit transfers, however, at limited speeds; the drive may be capable of more if it has a wider connector, or two connectors. This would allow 32 bit transfers. If it has these, better, but not essential to drive them IMHO. As for the transfer modes, all drives are backward compatable to slowboat systems (mode 0,1,2,3,4 etc), although they will usually do better on DMA 1 or 2, or Udma modes. Then many drives are not run at full speed by the op system because they're iffy at top whack, and the software plumps for reliability. Who wants a 'maybe' hard drive? Your chipset also becomes a question here as the drive access and chipset integrity are often linked. What does 'lspci' reveal? -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Experience is like a comb, that Life gives you - AFTER all your hair has fallen out! ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Maxtor 80 meg drive
I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. Do I need this card with linux? Thanks, Joel ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
Re: Maxtor 80 meg drive
--- Joel Hammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought a big drive. I was surprised to see they say I should install an Ultra/133 PCI adaptor card. The drive is 80 megs 7200 rpm. Do I need this card with linux? Maxtor is the first to come out with the really huge IDE drives (150GB), and also UDMA133 controllers. I think they're trying to drum up business for themselves with that recommendation. I'm using an IBM 75GB IDE drive (7200 rpm) and it runs just fine with UDMA66. = Lonni J. Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Step-by-step help: http://netllama.ipfox.com . __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ ___ Linux-users mailing list Archives, Digests, etc at http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users
