Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-17 Thread Chris Hellyar
Does it have to be PC/i386 stuff? I'll be helping a firm pull out some old DEC hardware next month.. Serious big-iron they are going to have to pay to get taken away if you're really keen. It's not been powered on since about 1990, and you'll need a truck. :-) On 17/08/15 18:57, Peter

Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-17 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Mon 17 Aug 2015 20:07:20 NZST +1200, criggie wrote: With all respect to Molten Media, if anyone's giving away drives do make sure they're wiped first, with something like dban rather than a casual wipe in $OS. dban? dd is as good as it gets. Paranoia is a good thing. Ha. Just came from

Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-17 Thread Chris Hellyar
scrub does it for me, not heard of dban before, will 'ave to have a look... Anyway, spare drives I have, first in first served: PATA: 1x WD400, 40G 2x Maxtor 20.4Gb (20G? is that even a thing? :) ) 1x Hitachi Deskstar 82.3Gb SATA: (Turns out two were not as old as the others!) 1x Hitachi

Re: [Linux-users] email server; of sorts

2015-08-17 Thread Adrian Mageanu
On Fri, 2015-08-14 at 15:27 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Adrian Mageanu adrian.mage...@totalimex.com wrote: Errr, scratch that, I found they invented google. Sure, but if you don't know the right words to use to describe your problem, you won't be able

Re: [Linux-users] Data security and privacy (Re: PATA drives - 80/40G)

2015-08-17 Thread Jim Cheetham
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Helmut Walle helmut.wa...@gmail.com wrote: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx ... If you want better security use /dev/urandom instead of /dev/zero, however take into account that this can be slower as it does require some CPU work, whereas /dev/zero produces the

Re: [Linux-users] Data security and privacy (Re: PATA drives - 80/40G)

2015-08-17 Thread Kent Fredric
On 18 August 2015 at 14:21, Adrian Mageanu adrian.mage...@totalimex.com wrote: I can't remember where I read but there are ways to retrieve data after a dd fill with zeroes or something else by using photorec and some hardware forensic techniques. The only downside with dban and nwipe is that

Re: [Linux-users] Data security and privacy (Re: PATA drives - 80/40G)

2015-08-17 Thread Adrian Mageanu
On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 11:50 +1000, Fraser McGlinn wrote: On 17/08/15 21:30, Helmut Walle wrote: And yes, for wiping disks something like dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx does the job (obviously replacing 'x' with the letter for the drive to be wiped). Without any further arguments, this

Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-17 Thread Bevan
I have an old compac rack server sitting in the garage dual power supply one cpu though don't know the specs but it is old On 17 August 2015 at 18:57, Peter Simmonds peter.a.simmo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris Others, I know what it's like. Would you mind keeping an eye out for exotic

Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-17 Thread Peter Simmonds
Hi Chris Others, I know what it's like. Would you mind keeping an eye out for exotic hardware, before it goes to molten media? They tend not to know much about what they are scrapping. As an example, I recently pulled an ordinary looking ISA card from an absolutely shagged old 386. This

Re: [Linux-users] PATA drives - 80/40G

2015-08-17 Thread criggie
On 17/08/15 20:11, linux-users-requ...@lists.canterbury.ac.nz wrote: I have an old compac rack server sitting in the garage dual power supply one cpu though don't know the specs but it is old Given Compaq stopped making servers at least 15 years ago, that box will be a p3 xeon with maybe a