Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 12 Oct 2012 21:50:47 NZDT +1300, chris wrote: gmail accepts imap... using dialup? Yes. Dialup is a method to connect to the Internet. How you connect to the Internet is totally irrelevant for how you connect to your mail server. I don't expect the traffic volume to be substantially

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread John
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:50:47 +1300 chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:57 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:50 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:34 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: snip open to try anything (within limits). :-) As long as you are

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread chris
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 21:58 +1300, John wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2012 21:50:47 +1300 chris wrote: snip using dialup? Why should/would using dialup make any difference? John asking because of lack of knowledge on my part, so thank you your reply has answered my query. Regards Chris

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread Helmut Walle
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Fri 12 Oct 2012 21:50:47 NZDT +1300, chris wrote: gmail accepts imap... using dialup? Yes. Dialup is a method to connect to the Internet. How you connect to the Internet is totally irrelevant for how you connect to your mail server. I don't

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread chris
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 11:16 +1300, Helmut Walle wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: snip Just some thoughts... Kind regards, Helmut. Many thanks to you all, and special thanks to Volker and Helmut. The information was exactly what I needed to move forward. At least, at my

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 18:53 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: 2/ If installed on Gnome does it need lots of KDE stuff as well? Are you serious? What exactly is your problem here? Shall we pass a hat around so you can buy yourself a 10GB hard disk extension from Molten Media? Volker If you

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread chris
On Sat, 2012-10-13 at 12:11 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 18:53 +1300, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: 2/ If installed on Gnome does it need lots of KDE stuff as well? Are you serious? What exactly is your problem here? Shall we pass a hat around so you can buy yourself a

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 11:16:56 NZDT +1300, Helmut Walle wrote: Regarding the claim some made here that all email clients suck... agreed, obviously with the one notable exception of pine / alpine... Hehe, that pine in the a... is always the first thing I send to /dev/null. When downloading mail

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Sat 13 Oct 2012 12:11:00 NZDT +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: If you notice, the OP is on dialup Robert on dialup? No I didn't notice. Doesn't the basic install media cover all the basic desktop stuff? It does for me, so dropping extra desktop stuff onto disk doesn't involve more downloads.

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-12 Thread Robert Fisher
On 13/10/12 12:52, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: On Sat 13 Oct 2012 12:11:00 NZDT +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: If you notice, the OP is on dialup Robert on dialup? No I didn't notice. No I was not the original poster but I was inquiring on his behalf. -- Robert

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Roger Searle
On 11/10/12 10:49, C. Falconer wrote: Roger Searle wrote, On 10/10/2012 11:25 PM: I have a Foscam FI8905W IP Camera on the end of my garage looking across the driveway to the road, transmits to one of the 2 wireless APs in the house. Recordings are handled by Zone Minder on what is primarily

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread C. Falconer
chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? -- Craig Falconer

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage...

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread C. Falconer
Steve Holdoway wrote, On 10/12/2012 02:02 PM: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Vik Olliver
On 12/10/12 13:52, C. Falconer wrote: I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage... Is there no other option? Every mail client sucks. Vik :v) ___

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread chris
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like choosing between drinking vomit or drinking sewage...

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:42 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook than an open source wannabe clone of outlook. But thats like

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread chris
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:49 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:42 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? I'd rather use real Outlook

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Robert Fisher
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Philip Charles phil...@copyleft.co.nzwrote: I have not found anything better (so far) than kmail. Its running on gnome 3. Phil. I used to like kmail too except that it did not like HTML mail and with so many emails received in HTML I decided to change to

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Philip Charles
On Fri, 12 Oct 2012, Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Philip Charles phil...@copyleft.co.nzwrote: I have not found anything better (so far) than kmail. Its running on gnome 3. Phil. I used to like kmail too except that it did not like HTML mail and with so

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Nick Rout
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:25 PM, chris che...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:49 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 14:42 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 13:52 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: chris wrote, On 10/11/2012 11:31 AM: yes, how do you get

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread chris
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:34 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: snip open to try anything (within limits). :-) As long as you are accessing your email via imap (you are aren't you?) you can try them all and see what you like. No, a dial up conection using pop. :-(

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:50 +1300, chris wrote: On Fri, 2012-10-12 at 17:34 +1300, Nick Rout wrote: snip open to try anything (within limits). :-) As long as you are accessing your email via imap (you are aren't you?) you can try them all and see what you like. No, a dial up conection

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 12 Oct 2012 14:19:57 NZDT +1300, Vik Olliver wrote: Every mail client sucks. Ohhh boy, you can say THAT one again a hundred times... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. ___

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-11 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 12 Oct 2012 16:31:16 NZDT +1300, Robert Fisher wrote: I have 2 questions about kmail:- 1/ Does it now allow HTML? Now was about 10 years ago? Not displaying all that html crapola by default works well. If you need to see it, click on the html part of the email, and it'll ask you

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-10 Thread David Lowe
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 3:30 PM, C. Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nzwrote: Nick Rout wrote, On 10/10/2012 09:21 AM: Cool, I assume you will let the EQC workers know that they are being video'd. We shall call you GCSB from now on... Well of course I warned EQC... mind you they managed to

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 23:25 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: Cool, I assume you will let the EQC workers know that they are being video'd. We shall call you GCSB from now on... Well of course I warned EQC... mind you they managed to organise five complete final inspections before number 6

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-10 Thread C. Falconer
Roger Searle wrote, On 10/10/2012 11:25 PM: I have a Foscam FI8905W IP Camera on the end of my garage looking across the driveway to the road, transmits to one of the 2 wireless APs in the house. Recordings are handled by Zone Minder on what is primarily our MythTV backend box ... Why Zone

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-10 Thread chris
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 15:30 +1300, C. Falconer wrote: Nick Rout wrote, On 10/10/2012 09:21 AM: Cool, I assume you will let the EQC workers know that they are being video'd. We shall call you GCSB from now on... Well of course I warned EQC... mind you they managed to organise five

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 11:31 +1300, chris wrote: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? What's your problem? I find it buggy, but the real kicker is if you manually configure your networking via /etc/network/interfaces, it assumes you're offline, and won't even try to get your

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-10 Thread chris
On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 11:40 +1300, Steve Holdoway wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-11 at 11:31 +1300, chris wrote: yes, how do you get evolution to work on debian 6.05? What's your problem? I find it buggy, but the real kicker is if you manually configure your networking via

[Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-09 Thread C. Falconer
Nick Rout wrote, On 10/10/2012 09:21 AM: Cool, I assume you will let the EQC workers know that they are being video'd. We shall call you GCSB from now on... Well of course I warned EQC... mind you they managed to organise five complete final inspections before number 6 comes out and says we

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-09 Thread C. Falconer
Nick Rout wrote, On 10/10/2012 03:41 PM: Just counted and there are 13 devices presently with dhcp addresses on the home lan. 2 servers 1 switch 1 firewall 2 access points 1 myth frontend 3 desktop PCs 2 tablets 3 cellphones 1 ATA 1 voip phone 1 printer 2 laptops 1 Playstation 3 Total: 20 Not

Re: [Linux-users] Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete

2012-10-09 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
The dx link is for the PCI card Craig. How did you source the cameras? I thought CCTV cams were prohibitively expensive. Could be useful for making a burglar alarm out of (not EQC related). Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.