Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-13 Thread Volker Kuhlmann
On Fri 13 Apr 2012 15:49:58 NZST +1200, Don Robertson wrote: As we used to say 'What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away' Well that's still true, isn't it? There are just more takers now... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-12 Thread Don Robertson
yeah and to think we used to claim that this was the conspiracy between MS and the manufacturers... As we used to say 'What Intel giveth, Microsoft taketh away' ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Robert Fisher
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:08 AM, John Carter john.car...@taitradio.comwrote: Then out goes Unity and in comes gnome-shell!) I recommend having a look at Cinnamon - created by Linuxmint to give a Gnome 2 look to Gnome 3. Works on Ubuntu too.

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread C. Falconer
Robert Fisher wrote, On 04/11/2012 08:48 AM: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 8:08 AM, John Carter john.car...@taitradio.com mailto:john.car...@taitradio.com wrote: Then out goes Unity and in comes gnome-shell!) I recommend having a look at Cinnamon - created by Linuxmint to give a Gnome 2 look

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 10:05 +1200, C. Falconer wrote: I have ended up with a minimal xfce setup... window managers should get out of the way and manage windows, not be an entire UI. And at home its twm. Yes, a window manager from 1987. Window managers are only there so you can open more

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Derek Smithies
Hi, I had thought all window managers (and windows too) are a means of displaying more information on the display. - not just ssh sessions. Roll on the day when there is a morse coded report of slashdot along the titlebar. The question I have - is why are window managers so bloated? If you

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Roger Searle roger.sea...@gmail.com wrote: Fastest machine at home is a mythtv box (when not being used as a myth front end) which is running xfce - start up time (to desktop) is under 20 seconds, apps open really fast (well under a second generally), shut down

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Roger Searle
On 11/04/12 15:47, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Roger Searleroger.sea...@gmail.com wrote: Fastest machine at home is a mythtv box (when not being used as a myth front end) which is running xfce - start up time (to desktop) is under 20 seconds, apps open really fast (well

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Nick Rout
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Roger Searle ro...@stepahead.org.nz wrote: On 11/04/12 15:47, Nick Rout wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Roger Searleroger.sea...@gmail.com  wrote: Fastest machine at home is a mythtv box (when not being used as a myth front end) which is running

Re: [Linux-users] UEFI, Ubuntu Precise, ARCH Linux

2012-04-10 Thread Steve Holdoway
On Wed, 2012-04-11 at 17:43 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: No I think it's a weekend job. Maybe a birthday present to myself this Saturday. Have downloaded mythbuntu pangolin to try 0.25 out - will do so on a USB drive I think. Be aware that Ubuntu have yet again broken wireless for me (