Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, I found the 2nd public review of Li18nux Locale Name Guideline has started. http://www.hauN.org/ml/b-l-j/a/800/840.html http://www.li18nux.org/subgroups/sa/locnameguide/index.html The page says that comments are welcome until 14 Feb 2002. Any additions from Li18nux insiders? --- Tomohiro

xterm KSYM mode encoding

2002-01-21 Thread Michael B Allen
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 14:55:17 + Markus Kuhn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you could do is either prefix each release with some release indicator symbol, or add for instance 0x20 to a Unicode character to turn it into a release code. Both approaches allow you to use a normal UTF-8

Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Tomohiro Kubota wrote: I found the 2nd public review of Li18nux Locale Name Guideline has started. http://www.hauN.org/ml/b-l-j/a/800/840.html http://www.li18nux.org/subgroups/sa/locnameguide/index.html The page says that comments are welcome until 14 Feb 2002. Any additions from

Re: xterm KSYM mode encoding

2002-01-21 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Michael B Allen wrote: With a hint from of Mr. Dickey, I believe the private \E[?1515h and \E[?1515l sequences are appropriate. the pointer which Paul Williams gave (for key position mode) is probably more promising. -- T.E.Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: xterm KSYM mode encoding

2002-01-21 Thread Paul Williams
Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Michael B Allen wrote: With a hint from of Mr. Dickey, I believe the private \E[?1515h and \E[?1515l sequences are appropriate. the pointer which Paul Williams gave (for key position mode) is probably more promising. Heh heh, I'll have to

Re: xterm KSYM mode encoding

2002-01-21 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Paul Williams wrote: Thomas E. Dickey wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Michael B Allen wrote: With a hint from of Mr. Dickey, I believe the private \E[?1515h and \E[?1515l sequences are appropriate. the pointer which Paul Williams gave (for key position mode) is

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
setenv LANG de_DE.iso-8859-1@euro setenv LANG DE_de.ISO-8859-1@euro setenv LANG de_DE.Iso-8859-1@EURO Do you think an average user can guess which one of these he has to type? No GUI available! If the average user is having to choose between those 3 possibilities, then

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Henry Spencer
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bram Moolenaar wrote: setenv LANG de_DE.iso-8859-1@euro setenv LANG DE_de.ISO-8859-1@euro setenv LANG de_DE.Iso-8859-1@EURO Do you think an average user can guess which one of these he has to type? No GUI available! If the user has to *type* one of

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Bram Moolenaar
Henry Spencer wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bram Moolenaar wrote: setenv LANG de_DE.iso-8859-1@euro setenv LANG DE_de.ISO-8859-1@euro setenv LANG de_DE.Iso-8859-1@EURO Do you think an average user can guess which one of these he has to type? No GUI available! If the

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Henry Spencer
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bram Moolenaar wrote: You can write a menu system, which will list the legitimate choices and ask him which one he wants, in twenty lines of shell script... Nice idea. However, that this menu system shell script still has to be made is enough proof that, in practice,

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Alastair McKinstry
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 15:31, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Henry Spencer wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bram Moolenaar wrote: setenv LANG de_DE.iso-8859-1@euro setenv LANG DE_de.ISO-8859-1@euro setenv LANG de_DE.Iso-8859-1@EURO Do you think an average user can guess which one of

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Pablo Saratxaga
Kaixo! On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 02:47:48PM +0100, Bram Moolenaar wrote: Usability is provided by GUI selection tools, not by softening syntax specs. The case sensitivity makes a lot of sense as ISO's language and setenv LANG de_DE.iso-8859-1@euro setenv LANG

Re: [I18n]Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Pablo Saratxaga
Kaixo! On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:05:23AM -0500, Henry Spencer wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002, Bram Moolenaar wrote: setenv LANG de_DE.iso-8859-1@euro setenv LANG DE_de.ISO-8859-1@euro setenv LANG de_DE.Iso-8859-1@EURO Do you think an average user can guess which one of these he

Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 07:18:09PM +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: Hi, I found the 2nd public review of Li18nux Locale Name Guideline has started. http://www.hauN.org/ml/b-l-j/a/800/840.html http://www.li18nux.org/subgroups/sa/locnameguide/index.html The page says that comments are

Re: [I18n]Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread Tomohiro KUBOTA
Hi, At Mon, 21 Jan 2002 19:18:09 +0900, Tomohiro KUBOTA wrote: I found the 2nd public review of Li18nux Locale Name Guideline has started. http://www.hauN.org/ml/b-l-j/a/800/840.html http://www.li18nux.org/subgroups/sa/locnameguide/index.html One important note. I am not a member of

Re: xterm KSYM mode encoding

2002-01-21 Thread Michael B Allen
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:19:09 + Paul Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to hear more from the original poster about the requirement for this encoding, and why it would need to be transparent to Linux console and PuTTY. Without wishing to be rude, I think the problem should be

Re: Li18nux Locale Name Guideline Public Review

2002-01-21 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Jan 22, 2002 at 12:49:56PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: However, it's important to remember that a bad standard is better than no standard. It is extremely difficult to change a bad standard, it is true. But it's even harder to change no standard, and in the meantime users