Re: paper size

2002-09-10 Thread Thomas E. Dickey
On Tue, 10 Sep 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked looked but cannot find the dimensions of J sized paper. Have I been sent on a wild goose chase? http://www.boxstar.com/papershops/materials/commonpapersizes.htm suggests there is a USAian paper size called J of 28x48

RE: paper size

2002-09-10 Thread McDonald, Ira
) jpn_kaku2_240x332mm Cheers, - Ira McDonald High North Inc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: paper size I have looked looked but cannot find the dimensions of J sized paper

paper size

2002-09-09 Thread katy newbold
I have looked looked but cannot find the dimensions of J sized paper. Have I been sent on a wild goose chase? Thank you for any help. Katy

Re: Paper size

2002-05-03 Thread Yann Dirson
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 10:13:06PM -0400, Henry Spencer wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2002, Markus Kuhn wrote: That does make a very convenient excuse for insisting that the other guys incur all the pain of conversion. Unfortunately, this does *not* help in selling the idea, which was exactly

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Henry Spencer
I wrote: It might actually be easier to sell a proposal that *everybody* switch to a set of sizes based on PA4. Spreading the pain around equally is often better politics than minimizing the total amount of it. Addendum: Also, choosing a size that is slightly *smaller* than what everybody

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Henry Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: For the exact same reason you should switch to the metric system... Unfortunately, there isn't the same incentive. Paper size is basically arbitrary; it doesn't impinge on everything else the way the units system does. There's nothing magic about

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Pablo Saratxaga
incentive. Paper size is basically arbitrary; The size, yes, but the ratio between the different sizes is not. It is a *very* nice feature, I use it all the time to print two pages into a single paper sheet, and then saving in paper costs. (And of course, even the much greater advantages

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 05:30:47PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: But there is! Firstly, if you cut a piece of A4 paper into two halves, each has the same proportions as A4. Secondly, a piece of An paper has area 1/2**n of a square metre. Standard photocopier paper weighs 80 grams a

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Markus Kuhn
Henry Spencer wrote on 2002-05-02 15:51 UTC: There's nothing magic about 210x297mm that makes anything easier. There are two im my view very significant advantages: - Apect ratios are identical for all formats in the series. Only people who have never really used ISO paper in daily

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Pablo Saratxaga
Kaixo! On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 01:49:18PM -0400, Henry Spencer wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2002, Pablo Saratxaga wrote: ...Paper size is basically arbitrary... The size, yes, but the ratio between the different sizes is not. It is a *very* nice feature, I use it all the time to print two

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Markus Kuhn
Henry Spencer wrote on 2002-05-02 17:49 UTC: That does make a very convenient excuse for insisting that the other guys incur all the pain of conversion. Unfortunately, this does *not* help in selling the idea, which was exactly my point. You misunderstood. *We* went through the necessary

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Pablo Saratxaga
Kaixo! On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 02:07:34PM -0400, Glenn Maynard wrote: On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 05:30:47PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: But there is! Firstly, if you cut a piece of A4 paper into two halves, each has the same proportions as A4. Secondly, a piece of An paper has area

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Oyvind A. Holm
On 2002-05-02 13:49-0400 Henry Spencer wrote: On Thu, 2 May 2002, Pablo Saratxaga wrote: ...Paper size is basically arbitrary... The size, yes, but the ratio between the different sizes is not. It is a *very* nice feature, I use it all the time to print two pages into a single paper

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread David Starner
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 03:17:26AM +0200, Oyvind A. Holm wrote: Back in the Slackware days i used mpage(1) to get four pages on one A4 page -- perfect reading size. How would the letter/legal/whatever look like in that case? For the most part, I try not to use pages on my computer - I use

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Henry Spencer
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Oyvind A. Holm wrote: [...] With modern printing and copying technology, where you can do a 64.7% reduction as easily as any other, the advantage from having the paper size in exactly the right ratio is slight. Not zero, but not very important in practice. Back

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Henry Spencer
On Thu, 2 May 2002, Markus Kuhn wrote: That does make a very convenient excuse for insisting that the other guys incur all the pain of conversion. Unfortunately, this does *not* help in selling the idea, which was exactly my point. You misunderstood. *We* went through the necessary

Re: Paper size

2002-05-02 Thread Henry Spencer
if you want to fit *four* pages into one sheet? Then doing that with non standard paper sizes will sure be a real pain Uh, no. Think about it. *Any* rectangular paper size works perfectly for four-on-one. Slice a rectangle in half both horizontally and vertically, and each section always has

Re: Paper size and locale

2002-05-01 Thread Markus Kuhn
H. Peter Anvin wrote on 2002-05-01 21:08 UTC: In the former case, I would like to propose a worldwide compromise page size -- 210 x 279 mm. Such a page can be printed, cleanly, on either on A4 (210 x 297 mm) or US-letter (216 x 279 mm) by expanding either the horizontal (US-letter) or

Re: Paper size

2002-05-01 Thread Markus Kuhn
David Starner wrote on 2002-05-01 22:17 UTC: On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 11:06:08PM +0100, Markus Kuhn wrote: As for the actual physical paper format (as opposed to PDF document layout), I'd like to warmly encourage people in North America to start using A4 paper. Why would we? For the

Re: Paper size and locale

2002-05-01 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
As for the actual physical paper format (as opposed to PDF document layout), I'd like to warmly encourage people in North America to start using A4 paper. Why would we? Because you will eventually, so you might as well do it now to minimise suffering. Well, I don't know how true that

Off-topic Re: Paper size and locale

2002-05-01 Thread David Starner
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 11:32:35PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: As for the actual physical paper format (as opposed to PDF document layout), I'd like to warmly encourage people in North America to start using A4 paper. Why would we? Because you will eventually, so you