Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread J C Nash
I should note that I gave a talk on a topic closely related to this http://wiki.oclug.on.ca/doku.php?id=meetingpresentations2017#april (Backup to USB drives in a group or family context: strategies) jn ___ Linux mailing list Linux@lists.oclug.on.ca

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 13:51:02 +1000 (AEST) Robert Brockway wrote: > It sounds to me like your backups are online and replicating from the > primary somehow. The next question assumes that is so. Yep. > If data was deleted on the primary would that replicate to the

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread Robert Brockway
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Robert P. J. Day wrote: i understand that dump is ubiquitous, and that it integrates with entries in /etc/fstab but, beyond that, does anyone seriously use dump for official backups these days? I haven't used it for backups for a long time but I do use it to migrate

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-26 Thread Robert Brockway
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018, Dianne Skoll wrote: My backups are all to hard drives in three separate locations. Everything is RAIDed. I'm placing my bet that not everything will fail at the same time. :) Hi Dianne. Long time no speak. It sounds to me like your backups are online and replicating

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 10:37:05 -0500 Tim Forbes wrote: > On the subject of remote media storage, I have always been concerned > about privacy and have not arrived at a good answer for my personal > situation. Perhaps a safety deposit box is the right answer, or maybe >

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 14:03:09 -0500 Rick Leir wrote: > How are dvd's for archiving photos? I would not trust consumer-recordable DVDs to last beyond a few years. My backups are all to hard drives in three separate locations. Everything is RAIDed. I'm placing my bet that

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Spencer Cheng
Not very good for long term storage. Specific type of DVD media is more or less OK. > In general the problem is that of

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread J C Nash
I've had some dvds (DVD+R or DVD-R types) report read errors when I went to check them after a couple of years. It seems the physical media is not as stable as originally advertised. JN On 2018-02-25 02:03 PM, Rick Leir wrote: > How are dvd's for archiving photos? I have been betting on them.

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Rick Leir
How are dvd's for archiving photos? I have been betting on them. They would not survive a fire, but they are compact so you can send a copy to a relative for safekeeping. I suspect that they would survive flooding. Maybe we will still have dvd drives in ten years! Otherwise we will have to copy

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-25 Thread Tim Forbes
On 2018-02-24 01:05 PM, Richard Guy Briggs wrote: On 2018-02-24 11:27, Tim Forbes wrote: My desktop uses anacron to run a script that rsync's files from my server. For redundancy and to permit media rotation, the files go to a ZFS mirror array physically housed in two of these...

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-24 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2018-02-24 11:27, Tim Forbes wrote: > My desktop uses anacron to run a script that rsync's files from my server. > For redundancy and to permit media rotation, the files go to a ZFS mirror > array physically housed in two of these... > > https://tinyurl.com/ydakecb7 > > ... Every now and

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-24 Thread Tim Forbes
My desktop uses anacron to run a script that rsync's files from my server. For redundancy and to permit media rotation, the files go to a ZFS mirror array physically housed in two of these... https://tinyurl.com/ydakecb7 ... Every now and then, I rotate-in recycled pairs of HDDs. A snapshot

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Brett Delmage
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Vic Gedris wrote: I've been using http://rsnapshot.org for many years. Yes, it's an rsync wrapper. Should be available most distro package libraries. Likewise. ___ Linux mailing list Linux@lists.oclug.on.ca

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Rick Leir
Robert Amanda is built on some bash scripts so you can understand and modify it to your needs. We used it at Cirrus. Bacula might be a strong contender. Cheers -- Rick On February 22, 2018 10:33:24 AM EST, "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > i'm prepping to teach 5 days of

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Scott Murphy
I suspect that the answer to that depends on what you are using as a backup medium. I have a tape robot and more tapes than I can ever possibly use, so it gets some use. Mostly for archives. Amanda is a pain, as it wants to fill tapes, so lots of tape changes to get as much on a tape as

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread James
I just use rsync. On February 22, 2018 10:33:48 AM "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: i'm prepping to teach 5 days of compTIA linux+ next week, after which the students will have the option to write exams based on that content for their LPI certification, so i'm working my

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread J C Nash
I gave a little talk at OCLUG on how I put rsync into a script and then link that to Double Commander so I have a "button" that rsync's left window to the right one. Also buttons for my "remove from A (left) if in B (right)" directory tree. I'm finding these aids helpful I also have special

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-23 Thread Vic Gedris
I've been using http://rsnapshot.org for many years. Yes, it's an rsync wrapper. Should be available most distro package libraries. -Vic On Feb 22, 2018 17:02, "Paul Hays" wrote: I use a gui frontend for rsync called luckyBackup (

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Guy Briggs
On 2018-02-22 10:46, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Dianne Skoll wrote: > > > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) > > "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > > > > but what are folks out there using for their backups these days? > > > tar? rsync? amanda? > > >

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018, Dianne Skoll wrote: > On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) > "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > > > but what are folks out there using for their backups these days? > > tar? rsync? amanda? > > I use rsync. i'll keep track of the responses i get just

Re: [OCLUG-Tech] does anyone still use "dump" for backups these days?

2018-02-22 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Thu, 22 Feb 2018 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) "Robert P. J. Day" wrote: > but what are folks out there using for their backups these days? > tar? rsync? amanda? I use rsync. Regards, Dianne. ___ Linux mailing list