[IFWP] ICANN's sources of money - full honest disclosure needed

1999-02-12 Thread Gordon Cook
what I saw on the web site a day or two ago listed five contributors for a total of less than $100,000. esther please define exactly what money and period of time this is supposed to represent... when you look at ICANN paying USC for the cost of IANA salaries since september one, it clearly

Re: [IFWP] Re: Fees, costs, and domain name prices

1999-02-12 Thread Michael Sondow
Greg Skinner a écrit: If domain names are expensive, people who don't need them to establish their online presence will use something else that works just as well. There are many alternatives. That's all I'm saying. I take it from your response that you can afford to pay plenty for a domain

[IFWP] Calling on Mike Roberts to answer a very basic question

1999-02-12 Thread Gordon Cook
Thinking about the following passage while walking the dog. According to Michael Sondow, Mike roberts wrote: The bottom line for the Initial Board is that the USG has asked that it take up these responsibilities in fulfillment of the White Paper. That is a sufficient authority for us to

[IFWP] Copyrights

1999-02-12 Thread Bill Lovell
And you thought trademarks were a pain in the arse! See http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2206386,00.html ISPA UK, the Internet Services Providers Association, has jumped into the fray. Bill Lovell

Re: [IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Kevin J. Connolly CONNOLLK@rspab.com]

1999-02-12 Thread Bill Lovell
At 10:12 AM 2/11/99 -0500, somebody (I'm too tired to count ) wrote: Let's take a step back. Keep in mind that WIPO is addressing procedures = only, not the substantive rules of Intellectual Property Law. When WIPO proposes to impose a mandatory arbitration scheme that could divest a party

Re: [IFWP] Re: list Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread Bill Lovell
At 10:38 PM 2/11/99 -0500, you wrote: I may fall out of my chair, but I am not laughing. Bill Lovell is correct as far as he goes: WIPO has no authority to create administrative law. But the problem is ICANN, not WIPO per se. If ICANN, in its monopoly position, decides to adopt WIPO's

[IFWP] internet corporation for assigned names and numbers (icann)

1999-02-12 Thread Suechooi
to the internet corporation for assigned names and numbers, pls send me the contacts for the supporting organizations. I'm interested to explore further into their plans. There has been not much information concerning the address supporting organization. Is there an address supporting

Re: [IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from[Kevin J. Connolly CONNOLLK@rspab.com]

1999-02-12 Thread Dan Steinberg
Bill, No need to apologize. Some of us have been saying the same thing for years. We keep on fighting the same battles and (fortunately) winning every time. It is tiring but a job worth doing. In every case what is required is a reasoned analysis that shows just what you have demonstrated:

[IFWP] Re: ICANN's Defective Competition Guidelines, etc (was Accredita

1999-02-12 Thread Einar Stefferud
Jeff -- If you know thew answer to your question better than I do, then please answer if for yourself. I am not at all interested in playing 20 questions with you. Over and out;-)...\Stef From your message Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:37:16 -0800 (PST): } } }No he didn't. Because the information

RE: [IFWP] Fwd: New Commerce Business Daily Notice

1999-02-12 Thread Ron Fitzherbert
Does any one have the full version (including the numbered notes (particularly #22)) that they could pass on? Thanks On Fri, 12 Feb 1999, David Schutt wrote: Try http://www.nist.gov/admin/od/contract/9c102001.htm David Schutt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Daniel Kaplan dkaplan@terra-nova.fr]

1999-02-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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Re: [IFWP] The Jeff Williams Report

1999-02-12 Thread Alex Kamantauskas
Can we see a scanned copy of your law degree from SMU? I'd be happy to add it to the site on your behalf, or to post up there any factual response that you might have to refute the report. He'd like to, but his scanner signed an NDA and cannot, by law, scan the SMU law degree. -- Alex

[IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from [Kevin J. Connolly CONNOLLK@rspab.com]

1999-02-12 Thread Richard J. Sexton
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Re: [IFWP] BOUNCE list@ifwp.org: Non-member submission from[Kevin J. Connolly CONNOLLK@rspab.com]

1999-02-12 Thread A.M. Rutkowski
Clare, for resolution of these interests, both substantive and procedural. Some kind of world wide consistency of approach on these issues seems eminently desirable. The substantive issues need to be agreed, the most likely routes Although "world wide consistency" may make arenas more

Re: [IFWP] Voting information and resources

1999-02-12 Thread Ken Freed
Antony -- This lists of links is encouraging. Glad to know there are so many options. As a way to test the voting methods for reliability, may I suggest that we set up a trial survey on DNS issues, and open the "voting" for one day to one week, and see what we get. The people on the lists can

[IFWP] Re: ICANN's Defective Competition Guidelines, etc (was Accredita

1999-02-12 Thread jeff Williams
Stef and all, I don't know the answer Stef, hence my reason for asking in the first place. Kind of a normal thing to do when one doesn't have the answer, yet the question still lingers. Einar Stefferud wrote: Jeff -- If you know thew answer to your question better than I do, then please

[IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread Kerry Miller
-- / theory Roeland wrote, "The" thread has a way of being hard to pin down in c-space, doesnt it? Provided that it stays within certain parameters, I don't have too tough a time of it. I agree. Up to a point in the cognitive process, the human brain is remarkably

[IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS -Reply -Reply

1999-02-12 Thread jeff Williams
Kevin and all, Kevin, William is often misstating others positions, as his one time employer has pointed out (.TJ). He seems to have this propensity and displays it often. Kevin J. Connolly wrote: Mr. Walsh, You've misstated my position. I am opposed to mandatory arbitration. I am in

[IFWP] New privacy bill in the offing?

1999-02-12 Thread jeff Williams
All, FYI, http://cnnfn.com/digitaljam/newsbytes/126372.html Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contact Number: 972-447-1894 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd.

Re: [IFWP] Is ICANN (Financially ;-) Bankrupt?

1999-02-12 Thread jeff Williams
Jay Venton, and all, The problems that the ICANN and possibly the ISOC is having is of their own making and seemingly wishing to continue by dictating without the benefit of the Membership Organization in the case of the ICANN, policies that have been continuingl been stated by stakeholders,

[IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
[re-threaded] At 02:48 PM 2/12/99 -0800, Bill Lovell wrote: At 04:58 PM 2/12/99 -0500, you wrote: A federal district court in California has recently opined on a " famousmarkssucks.com" cite. Bally Total Fitness Holding Corp. v. Faber, C.D. Cal., No. CV 98-1278 DDP (MANx), 12/21/98 ).

[IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
[re-threaded] At 08:02 PM 2/11/99 -0500, Martin B. Schwimmer wrote: A This case also provides a splendid example of how the WIPO process could muck things up. Consider- a) There is no assurance whatsoever that the WIPO process would have engaged in an identical analysis. This is a chauvinist

Re: [IFWP] DNS v. TM?

1999-02-12 Thread Martin B. Schwimmer
Thanks to Mr. Lovell for the cite to the site. So defendant did in fact use www.compupix.com/ballysucks/ and not ballysucks.com. So this is a typical case which illustrates the commentary defense to trademark infringement. It's novel in that it's the Internet but this is not new law. Trademark

[IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread Roeland M.J. Meyer
[re-threaded] At 06:12 PM 2/11/99 -0500, Harold Feld wrote: A federal district court in California has recently opined on a " famousmarkssucks.com" cite. Bally Total Fitness Holding Corp. v. Faber, C.D. Cal., No. CV 98-1278 DDP (MANx), 12/21/98 ). (sorry, the only URL I have is a BNA

RE: [IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread William X. Walsh
Why are these messages being reposted to the list again? On 12-Feb-99 Roeland M.J. Meyer wrote: [re-threaded] At 06:12 PM 2/11/99 -0500, Harold Feld wrote: A federal district court in California has recently opined on a " famousmarkssucks.com" cite. Bally Total Fitness Holding

RE: [IFWP] The Jeff Williams Report

1999-02-12 Thread William X. Walsh
On 12-Feb-99 William X. Walsh wrote: Rather than post all the information here, I will simply post the URL to the location of the reports. http://www.dso.net/wwalsh/jeffw/ The website was updated to make it easier to navigate, thanks to another list member's efforts.

[IFWP] ICANN and IANA -- smoke and mirrors from NIST

1999-02-12 Thread Gordon Cook
NIST on Becky Burrs behalf disembled as follows in the second act of nist's failed earlier effort to give IANA to ICANN: Government's best interest to achieve this stability and ensure the security and reliability of the Internet by entering a sole source contract to bridge the gap

[IFWP] Re: do we want to have constituency meetings in singapore next month?

1999-02-12 Thread Joop Teernstra
At 14:57 12/02/99 -0500, Michael Sondow wrote: Andrew Q. Kraft, MAIP, Executive Director a écrit: Chon and all, While not OPPOSED, personally, to a meeting of constituencies, keep in mind that at this point, there are TWO proposals for the DNSO, and only ONE defines which constituencies

[IFWP] Re: [Membership] The People's Republic of ICANN?

1999-02-12 Thread Bob Allisat
George Conrades writes: So my suggestion(s) is/are: No classes. Individuals and organizations can be members and get one vote each. Anyone coming up with the initiation fee and the necessary identification can be a member. Michael Sondow: + Sounds good. Nonsense Michael. Putting

[IFWP] Re: [dnso.discuss] Re: do we want to have constituency meetings

1999-02-12 Thread William X. Walsh
On 13-Feb-99 Michael Sondow wrote: I strongly second this recommendation, Joop, and will militate for it in Singapore. Might I suggest that your militant stance is one of the biggest threats to the standards you are advocating. -- E-Mail: William X. Walsh

[IFWP] Trademarks/DNs

1999-02-12 Thread Bill Lovell
At 07:10 PM 2/12/99 -0500, you wrote: Let's rename this thread trademarks/DNS instead of trademarks vs. DNS. The point of the thread (and btw hats off to Mr. Meyers for trying to get the class to behave) is hopefully to have discussions which could aid the harmonization of TM law with the DNS.

Re: [IFWP] Re: Trademarks vs DNS

1999-02-12 Thread Ellen Rony
Bill Lovell wrote: Perhaps originally, but that is no longer the case. Several decisions have said that NSI had NO duty to carry out TM analyses, and the mere registration of a domain name cannot constitute TM infringement. Consequently, what sorry excuse there ever existed for their having made