Karl Auerbach wrote:
In practical terms, I don't think a "global" vote makes sense. A vote of
people worldwide, yes, but only of interested parties who know what they are
voting about.
...As for ICANN's metric of "interested". It appears to be a metric based on
the extraction of
Andrew McLaughlin wrote:
The ICANN Board of Directors held its third quarterly
meeting in Santiago,
Chile, today. The Board passed a number of resolutions,
including the
following:
...
- Implementation of At Large Membership
"Implementation" is an interesting descriptor for what was
Please let me join this exchange.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is that we were talking of the vote at IDNO as an example for
the electronic vote for the elections of the ICANN Board.
Maybe I should not, but I personally tend to care less about how an election
in a working group is
Kent Crispin wrote:
I'll offer the same thing for lower cost, on my servers, and I will
throw in some security expertise as well. Sound fair?
How would you feel about serving on an elections implementation committee? I
would also recommend Jim Dixon, Diane Cabell and Joop Teernstra.
Joe Sims wrote:
...One point I should make: a
very significant hurdle to any election process is the lack of money to run
it. It might well be a sensible strategy, especially at this stage of its
development, for ICANN to have some professional election help, but it has
no money to pay
A system can be designed to accomplish a purpose or to fail. ICANN
must decide whether its purpose is to afford maximum diversity of representation
or to develop a fool proof system for conducting meaningless elections
(in the sense of its expressed representational aspiration).
Diane Cabell
Diane Cabell wrote:
Eric Weisberg wrote:
> A system can be designed to accomplish a purpose or to fail.
ICANN
> must decide whether its purpose is to afford maximum diversity of
> representation or to develop a fool proof system for conducting
> meaningless elections (in the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my community, we just had a school board election with 24 candidates
running for 9 seats.
You were lucky. In Denison, Tx (my home town), we rarely have contested
races. No one wants to get so personal as to challenge an incumbent for
"his" seat.
And it was
I just noticed the following links on the bottom of the ICANN
Berlin Meeting page http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/berlin/
Berkman Center for Internet Society | Translate This Page
Kent Crispin wrote:
I'm sorry, Eric. You are misinformed. Izumi is correct: geographic
diversity has been an absolute requirement from very early on,
By whom? I did not hear it required at Reston and am not aware of an IFWP poll on
the subject.
We do not know what process produced that
Greg Skinner wrote:
I think there is a preference among people to have face-to-face, or at
least telephone conferences because there are some things that are not
communicated very well in email and other text-based media. Tone of
voice and facial expression lend much to the communication
Karl Auerbach wrote:
Let people and entities form whatever coalitions they
desire, let them
mutate and reform as conditions change. Let those
coalitions express
their power via the number of individuals that they can
convince to cast
their votes in accord with the coalition's point of
I apologize for this cross-post to the IFWP list, but thought I
would use it as an opportunity to move anyone interested in the
discussion to [EMAIL PROTECTED] where we should be assembling
the nuts and bolts of the over-all membership structure.
Charles Nesson wrote:
we must defend against
George Conrades wrote:
Michael, your thoughts on this one make a lot of sense to me.
Geo.
George Conrades wrote:
Michael, your thoughts on this one make a lot of sense to me. Geo.
...it's a good idea. If people registering domain names were
automatically made members, by having a
Diane Cabell wrote:
Greg Skinner wrote:
I support the creation of a public interest, or netizens SO, if you
like.
That's what the At Large Membership is supposed to be.
No. We are discussing why that is NOT so.
The "great unwashed" will not join and vote in ICANN
elections no
Esther Dyson wrote:
Dave, how could I not agree? As I've said, good PR firms help you figure
out what you're trying to say and help you say it. They also bring the bad
news back to the client so that the client can deal with reality.
There is a basic flaw in this recipe. We are a
Kent Crispin wrote:
It is an egregious and fundamental error to think that these lists
and the USG represent the sum of ICANNs constituents.
Who and how many will be members is a significant factor in the
design of the voting mechanism, if not the organization. How many
of us really care
Dave Crocker wrote:
IETF and IAB have closed decision-making meetings.
These are by no means the only groups that behave in this fashion AND have
plenty of community support, but I thought the irony of being able to cite
them in this context would be appealing.
I do not think that
Bob Allisat wrote:
If I understand you correctly Eric you are proposing
that the IFWP become the membership of ICANN...
Yes.
Molly, if it isn't already there, would you add this as an option
to be considered under the "individual" membership model?
What discussion have you had regarding the way in which a proportionate
representation scheme (such as STV) would work (mechanically) as regards
representation of diverse interests?
Diane Cabell wrote:
C'est possible. These are works in progress, Jay. It isn't clear yet how
many models we
Bret Fausett asked me to explain STV (my fingers were over
anxious and typed "STAVE"). I will probably try to do so
this evening if we do not get an explanation from others
sooner. However, Nigel Roberts (Island Networks) and Jim
Dixon are more knowledgeable on the subject, as they have
actual
This discussion illustrates how arbitrary an attempt to populate a board
through designation of defined constituencies must be, not to mention how
ridiculously complicated such mechanisms end up. And, there is no way to
empirically weigh the relative fairness of the results of such systems.
Why
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