Enforcement Provisions (was: Support for Paris draft)

1999-02-08 Thread Jay Fenello
At 2/7/99, 06:15 PM, John B. Reynolds wrote: Milton Mueller wrote: The Paris draft group, on the other hand, was responsive to this same criticism. I commend them for this. On the other hand, the Paris group was completely unresponsive to criticism that its veto provisions gave too much

Re: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-08 Thread Kent Crispin
On Sun, Feb 07, 1999 at 07:43:57PM -0800, William X. Walsh wrote: Furthermore, it is explicitly the case that the Names Council only gives recommendations to ICANN. That is all the DNSO CAN do Kent, so this is no distinction. Of course. However, Jay, Einar, and others have

Re: Enforcement Provisions (was: Support for Paris draft)

1999-02-08 Thread Kent Crispin
On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 07:34:40AM -0600, John B. Reynolds wrote: Jay Fenello wrote: How do you envision ICANN enforcing policies onto the registries? If all else fails, ICANN has the authority to remove them from its root zone. It's admittedly the 'nuclear option', but it's there.

Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread Milton Mueller
I agree that both drafts have their flaws, but very definitely view the Paris draft as the lesser of the two evils. In fact, I am not sure that it has any evil in it at all. The dnso.org application's recognition of a "Trademark and anti-counterfeiting" constituency is an unfair and

RE: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread William X. Walsh
you think this is any different in the Trademark draft? CORE is the one behind it, and they have always advocated CORE as the sole solitary new registry. You have less chance of exploitation in a open market, which is what the people behind the paris draft support, since it opens it to competition

RE: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread John B. Reynolds
have less chance of exploitation in a open market, which is what the people behind the paris draft support, since it opens it to competition.] The problem is that I am not convinced that all of the incumbent ccTLDs (or even a majority thereof) or the incumbent gTLD share your commitment

Re: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread Milton Mueller
A few comments John B. Reynolds wrote: Registries are also businesses, and have had even less difficulty than TM owners in making themselves heard, yet there has been no opposition to granting them a constituency. Good point. My preference would have been for a more flat membership model

RE: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread William X. Walsh
On 07-Feb-99 John B. Reynolds wrote: The problem is that I am not convinced that all of the incumbent ccTLDs (or even a majority thereof) or the incumbent gTLD share your commitment to competition, and the Paris draft puts them in a position to block it. Granted, you've never been on any

RE: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread John B. Reynolds
William X. Walsh wrote: On 07-Feb-99 John B. Reynolds wrote: The problem is that I am not convinced that all of the incumbent ccTLDs (or even a majority thereof) or the incumbent gTLD share your commitment to competition, and the Paris draft puts them in a position to block it.

RE: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread William X. Walsh
On 08-Feb-99 John B. Reynolds wrote: What would you suggest? I'd like to hear it, and perhaps the participants here can contribute and we can come up with something that is workable. AIP and NSI came pretty close two days ago: * It is proposed that Section 5.9 be amended to

Re: Support for Paris draft

1999-02-07 Thread Michael Sondow
John B. Reynolds wrote As an advocate of expansion of the TLD space and policies that would protect domain registrants from exploitation based on registry lock-in, I prefer to take my chances with the business community than with the incumbent TLD registries. A good deal of what you said