Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 8:00 PM, compdoc wrote: > > > Things will get outrageous soon with the advent of M.2 PCI SSDs on a x4 > > connection. > > The speeds of m.2 on x4 do look amazing. > Now explain why a M.2 PCIe x4 SSD would be more expensive than a M.2 SATA SSD. __

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 7:35 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > > On 2014-10-30 17:15, Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Dave Warren wrote: >>> Buy quality instead of junk? > <...> >>> Even a cheapo 30GB/60GB/whatever SSD is more than enough for pfSense and >>> makes a far more reliable

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread compdoc
> Things will get outrageous soon with the advent of M.2 PCI SSDs on a x4 connection. The speeds of m.2 on x4 do look amazing, but the prices and sizes of them probably means that not many people will be tossing them into their firewalls anytime soon. For projects like firewalls, and to

Re: [pfSense] Install CD - I don't know where to go with this

2014-10-30 Thread Chris Buechler
Sounds like the CD drive in that server probably isn't working right (assuming it is configured in the BIOS to boot from it), try an external CD-ROM, or use the memstick image to boot from USB flash instead. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 6:01 PM, Mark Hisel wrote: > > I'm trying to make an install CD b

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
We have a couple here, too Josh. Now you have to explain why you’re endorsing ZFS, given that “the community” trashed talked my suggestion that running ZFS instead of nano on a SSD (or even USB3 memstick) was, potentially a *much* more durable (and more performant) result. (*) When you’re don

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Dave Warren
On 2014-10-30 17:15, Jim Thompson wrote: On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Dave Warren wrote: Buy quality instead of junk? <...> Even a cheapo 30GB/60GB/whatever SSD is more than enough for pfSense and makes a far more reliable solution than external flash. I strongly disagree.SSDs have to be

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > > On 2014-10-30 13:06, Jeppe Øland wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped >>completely unreliable drives without any thought. >>Kingston/

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Josh Reynolds
Every data I've seen on "them sucking" has to do specifically with NTFS, which the newly released firmware update is supposed to fix. We are using 840Evo's in all of our storage arrays, and haven't seen any issues(EXT4/ZFS). Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.

[pfSense] Install CD - I don't know where to go with this

2014-10-30 Thread Mark Hisel
 I'm trying to make an install CD but no joy.  Upfront, this is not a pfSense issue but maybe someone can help.  Thanks to those who have already responded. I used WinISO, which lets me fiddle with the boot record, so I burned a CD and then made an ISO from it and the ISO has a boot record. But i

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Dave Warren
On 2014-10-30 13:06, Jeppe Øland wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: >>On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped >>completely unreliable drives without any thought. >>Kingston/OCZ/Crucial are all in this boat for me. > >I’m sure I’ve been burned a

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jeppe Øland
On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Jim Thompson wrote: >> On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped >> completely unreliable drives without any thought. >> Kingston/OCZ/Crucial are all in this boat for me. > > I’m sure I’ve been burned at least as badly by these, and others, a

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Seth Mos
Jim Thompson schreef op 30-10-2014 16:33: > >> On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Jeppe Øland > > wrote: >> >>> 3 year old Kingston SSDs are not like new Kingston SSDs. >> >> Agreed. >> >> On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped >> completely unreliable

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
> On Oct 30, 2014, at 9:28 AM, Jeppe Øland wrote: > >> 3 year old Kingston SSDs are not like new Kingston SSDs. > > Agreed. > > On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped > completely unreliable drives without any thought. > Kingston/OCZ/Crucial are all in this boat for m

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jeppe Øland
> 3 year old Kingston SSDs are not like new Kingston SSDs. Agreed. On the other hand, I tend to distrust manufacturers that shipped completely unreliable drives without any thought. Kingston/OCZ/Crucial are all in this boat for me. As for Nano, I thought it mounted almost everything as RO and on

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
On Oct 30, 2014, at 7:14 AM, Jason Pyeron wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Jeppe Øland >> Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 18:46 >> >> I've been on an Atom board with a Kingston SSD for like 3 >> years now ... >> In that time I've gone through 3 dead SSDs (which Kingston replace

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jason Pyeron
> -Original Message- > From: Jeppe Øland > Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 18:46 > > I've been on an Atom board with a Kingston SSD for like 3 > years now ... > In that time I've gone through 3 dead SSDs (which Kingston replaced). > Due to that I'm now running the nano build ... the SSD

Re: [pfSense] APU and SSD: full install or NanoBSD

2014-10-30 Thread Jim Thompson
3 year old Kingston SSDs are not like new Kingston SSDs. UFS is not ideal for SSD, but the pfSense store ships solutions with (Intel) SSD and UFS. So many people are confused by what it takes to make field equipment ‘live’ with an SSD, or SSD-like (eMMC) solution. I’ve mentioned ZFS before a