On 28/07/14 05:45, Nenhum_de_Nos wrote:
I have a soekris atom board, net6501, and despite the intel nics, chipset
throughput won't let them go as far as they would. So how much would I expect
from these apu from PCEngines? Running the latest pfsense and only routing.
I compared the apu.1c to
Am 22.07.2014 um 21:29 schrieb Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com:
The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk Extreme Secure
[sic!] SDHC card included.
1. What's secure about this card? I suppose it's a regular SDHC one.
2. I would like to pay less, but I'm worried
On 07/22/2014 02:19 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote:
Am 22.07.2014 um 21:29 schrieb Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com
mailto:nlesc...@gmail.com:
The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk Extreme
Secure [sic!] SDHC card included.
...
What sort of bandwidth are these be able to
Am 27.07.2014 18:32, schrieb Kenward Vaughan:
On 07/22/2014 02:19 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote:
Am 22.07.2014 um 21:29 schrieb Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com
mailto:nlesc...@gmail.com:
The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk Extreme
Secure [sic!] SDHC card included.
...
On 27/7/14 7:06 pm, Matthias May wrote:
With intel cards on the same board you can get up to 650 Mbit/s, but i
expect it to be lower with additional rules.
Have you tried it with Intel cards (I assume you're talking mPCIe
cards?) - and if so, what chassis did you use?
The ability to install
Am 27.07.2014 20:20, schrieb Chris Bagnall:
On 27/7/14 7:06 pm, Matthias May wrote:
With intel cards on the same board you can get up to 650 Mbit/s, but i
expect it to be lower with additional rules.
Have you tried it with Intel cards (I assume you're talking mPCIe
cards?) - and if so, what
On 07/27/2014 11:06 AM, Matthias May wrote:
...
Kenward
Are you sure you meant 1.2 GB/s ?
That would be 9.6 Gbit/s (as in 9600 Mbit/s)
These don't route that much.
With the built in Realtek cards you get 450 Mbit/s without any fancy rules.
I would expect this to go down with additional rules.
On Jul 27, 2014, at 13:06, Matthias May matth...@may.nu wrote:
Am 27.07.2014 18:32, schrieb Kenward Vaughan:
On 07/22/2014 02:19 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote:
Am 22.07.2014 um 21:29 schrieb Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com
mailto:nlesc...@gmail.com:
The difference is not $200, but
On Jul 22, 2014, at 16:19, Rainer Duffner rai...@ultra-secure.de wrote:
Am 22.07.2014 um 21:29 schrieb Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com:
The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk Extreme Secure
[sic!] SDHC card included.
1. What's secure about this card? I
Nickolai,
I don’t know about you but I get my 8GB SDHC Class 10 cards for between $5 and
$15.
—
Ryan
On Jul 22, 2014, at 14:29, Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com wrote:
The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk Extreme Secure
[sic!] SDHC card included.
1. What's
Ryan,
Your point is entirely lost, I’ve already shown where your words are false by
any measure.
Time to close this thread.
Jim
On Jul 27, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
Nickolai,
I don’t know about you but I get my 8GB SDHC Class 10 cards for between $5
and
On July 27, 2014 3:20:20 PM GMT-03:00, Chris Bagnall
pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc wrote:
On 27/7/14 7:06 pm, Matthias May wrote:
With intel cards on the same board you can get up to 650 Mbit/s, but
i
expect it to be lower with additional rules.
Have you tried it with Intel cards (I assume
Oh guys give it a rest, like a couple of whiney school boys. I'm getting
off this list to get away from you guys.
On Jul 27, 2014 10:16 PM, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
Ryan,
Your point is entirely lost, I’ve already shown where your words are
false by any measure.
Time to
whatever jim. I’ve used this list and helped people. People have helped me.
Your approach was wrong. My response was wrong. I admitted my mistake.
You wanted this off list and you’re still responding.
Ban me if you wish - it would only be a temporary measure. I’ve been buying
your hardware
Cool down BOTH of you. The IT community is filled with such tempers. Stop
acting like kids. What do you want Ryan, a timeout?
Yudhvir
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Is there a difference between the 4 and the 1C4? Is Netgate just trying to
fleece people for an extra $200 by packaging the entire thing together built
and tested?
http://store.netgate.com/kit-APU1C4.aspx
http://store.netgate.com/APU4.aspx
PC Engines only has the APU1C/APU1C4 listed with the
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 02:40:44PM +, Ryan Coleman wrote:
Is there a difference between the 4 and the 1C4? Is Netgate just trying to
fleece people for an extra $200 by packaging the entire thing together built
and tested?
http://store.netgate.com/kit-APU1C4.aspx
I asked the differences in the two line items from netgate.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 9:56, Eugen Leitl eu...@leitl.org wrote:
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 02:40:44PM +, Ryan Coleman wrote:
Is there a difference between the 4 and the 1C4? Is Netgate just trying to
fleece people for an extra
On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:58, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
I asked the differences in the two line items from netgate.
Perhaps you should ask sa...@netgate.com
Jim
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The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk Extreme Secure
[sic!] SDHC card included.
1. What's *secure* about this card? I suppose it's a regular SDHC one.
2. I would like to pay less, but I'm worried about assembling it right with
regards to cooling. Can anyone clarify how is
Just like the others: dissipation through the aluminum case. Mine get toasty
but they haven't cooked yet. You could cut a fan in the case if you needed to.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 14:29, Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com wrote:
The difference is not $200, but about $100 with 8GB Sandisk
Just like the others: dissipation through the aluminum case
How does the CPU connect to the aluminum case? Is there some thermal
interface involved? Maybe an interface between CPU heatsink and aluminum
case?
Mine get toasty but they haven't cooked yet. You could cut a fan in the
case if you
On Jul 22, 2014, at 17:19, Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder why they wouldn't just build the board with some appropriate Atom
CPU?
:-)
And maybe even more performant, to boot? E3815, probably?
Bay Trail? Why? That's for tablets.
C2xx8 more likely.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 17:19, Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com wrote:
Just like the others: dissipation through the aluminum case
How does the CPU connect to the aluminum case? Is there some thermal
interface involved? Maybe an interface between CPU heatsink and aluminum case?
Yes, there
Do you happen to have an image of this?
On Jul 22, 2014, at 16:28, Jim Thompson j...@smallworks.com wrote:
On Jul 22, 2014, at 17:19, Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com wrote:
Just like the others: dissipation through the aluminum case
How does the CPU connect to the aluminum case?
Bay Trail? Why? That's for tablets.
What's the difference, in practical terms?
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http://pcengines.ch/apucool.htm
Holger
Am 22.07.2014 23:31 schrieb Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com:
Yes, there is a transfer pad.
What is this pad made of: some metal or is this a thermal shim, which is a
sort of paste?
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Thanks, Holger!
I didn't notice this page. So it looks like it's some kind of thermal paste
allows for adequate thermal conductivity between the CPU/south bridge and
the aluminum heat spreader, but the heat spreader is in dry contact with
the case? I find it less than adequate, but let's hope
On 22/7/14 11:17 pm, Nickolai Leschov wrote:
I didn't notice this page. So it looks like it's some kind of thermal paste
allows for adequate thermal conductivity between the CPU/south bridge and
the aluminum heat spreader, but the heat spreader is in dry contact with
the case?
The one I've
Very little if this thread is related to pfSense.
Please stay on topic.
-- Jim
On Jul 22, 2014, at 17:32, Chris Bagnall pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc wrote:
On 22/7/14 11:17 pm, Nickolai Leschov wrote:
I didn't notice this page. So it looks like it's some kind of thermal paste
allows for
Look fuck nut: branded and shipped hardware is 100% on topic. Thank you.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 20:10, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
Very little if this thread is related to pfSense.
Please stay on topic.
-- Jim
On Jul 22, 2014, at 17:32, Chris Bagnall
Ryan,
Profanity and personal attacks have no place on this list.
-- Jim
On Jul 22, 2014, at 20:12, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
Look fuck nut: branded and shipped hardware is 100% on topic. Thank you.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 20:10, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
Very
Who is the list mom and why is he/she not responding to this?
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
Look fuck nut: branded and shipped hardware is 100% on topic. Thank you.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 20:10, Jim Thompson j...@netgate.com wrote:
Very little if this
On 23/7/14 2:10 am, Jim Thompson wrote:
Very little if this thread is related to pfSense.
Please stay on topic.
Respectfully, I disagree.
Given the APU is - as the de facto successor to the ALIX - likely to be
a piece of hardware used in a lot of new pfSense installs, discussion
about its
On Jul 22, 2014, at 16:30, Nickolai Leschov nlesc...@gmail.com wrote:
Bay Trail? Why? That's for tablets.
What's the difference, in practical terms?
First: Rangeley has an integrated i354 10/100/1000 quad Ethernet MAC. Bay
Trail requires one to add Ethernet
Second: Rangeley has a
I am. I have.
I'm trying to be patient and professional.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 20:47, Sean Colins s...@corequick.com wrote:
Who is the list mom and why is he/she not responding to this?
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:12 PM, Ryan Coleman ryanjc...@me.com wrote:
Look fuck nut: branded and
Neither do accusations that a discussion that is VERY MUCH related to this list
has no place on this list.
Just because it does not relate to what YOU use pfsense for doesn’t mean it
does not belong. If that were the case most of the emails I get on a daily
basis have no place on this list.
::applause::
I may have fired off the message in a fit of frustration but you made it a
public statement - if you wanted to be the “mom” and handle it you should have
sent it privately instead of publicly.
—
Ryan
On Jul 22, 2014, at 21:15, Chris Bagnall pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc wrote:
On
On 23/7/14 4:11 am, Ryan Coleman wrote:
I may have fired off the message in a fit of frustration but you made it a
public statement - if you wanted to be the “mom” and handle it you should have
sent it privately instead of publicly.
I can't work out if the above is directed at me or Jim.
(I
It is my believe that we all are on this list, in this discussion,
because we have a requirement, desire and/or need of a solid network
security solution. I applaud the community as a whole for making pfSense
a product for that is available for the societal masses. #respect
Give me your low TTL,
Sorry, that was at our wonderful list mom. I should have noted it that way.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 22:18, Chris Bagnall pfse...@lists.minotaur.cc wrote:
On 23/7/14 4:11 am, Ryan Coleman wrote:
I may have fired off the message in a fit of frustration but you made it a
public statement - if you
Actually the margin is more like $250 - the board, case, SD all cost about $145
if you buy them from PCEngines.
My fleecing comment is based on the lack of a statement that says if you don’t
want the support you can look at this model, or give an option to opt out of
the support. Also calling
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