Re: [pfSense] Cisco IPSEC configuration

2012-09-14 Thread Ian Bowers 
it's the latter.  and the license doesn't care what platform you're running
the client on, it only stipulates which head-end gear you're allowed to
connect to:

Unless otherwise expressly provided in the Documentation, Customer shall
use the Software solely as embedded in, for execution on,or (where the
applicable documentation permits installation on non-Cisco equipment)for
communication with Cisco equipment owned or leased by Customer and used for
Customer's internal business purposes

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Paul Mather wrote:

> On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Ian Bowers wrote:
>
> Whoever hosts the instructions.  they open themselves up for cease and
> desist letters and potentially litigation.
>
> Not trying to be a wet blanket, just saying...  in the open source
> community we have to be careful and respectful of licensing.
>
>
> Are you talking about a Cisco IPSEC client as implemented in Cisco
> hardware or all Cisco IPSEC clients, e.g., as implemented in iOS or Mac OS
> X?  I can't see how they'd be justified in sending cease and desist letters
> for instructions on how to configure the latter.
>
> I know I have had problems in getting the Cisco IPSEC client to work
> properly in Mac OS X (Snow Leopard).  It works through NAT-T but not
> otherwise.  I sure would appreciate a howto/guide so I can figure out where
> I might be going wrong.  (I've posted about this problem before, without
> resolution: http://www.mail-archive.com/support@pfsense.com/msg21912.html)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Paul.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Vick Khera  wrote:
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>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
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>>> posting instructions on doing it could cause trouble.
>>
>>
>> Trouble for whom?
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Re: [pfSense] Cisco IPSEC configuration

2012-09-14 Thread Paul Mather 
On Sep 14, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Ian Bowers wrote:

> Whoever hosts the instructions.  they open themselves up for cease and desist 
> letters and potentially litigation.  
> 
> Not trying to be a wet blanket, just saying...  in the open source community 
> we have to be careful and respectful of licensing.

Are you talking about a Cisco IPSEC client as implemented in Cisco hardware or 
all Cisco IPSEC clients, e.g., as implemented in iOS or Mac OS X?  I can't see 
how they'd be justified in sending cease and desist letters for instructions on 
how to configure the latter.

I know I have had problems in getting the Cisco IPSEC client to work properly 
in Mac OS X (Snow Leopard).  It works through NAT-T but not otherwise.  I sure 
would appreciate a howto/guide so I can figure out where I might be going 
wrong.  (I've posted about this problem before, without resolution: 
http://www.mail-archive.com/support@pfsense.com/msg21912.html)

Cheers,

Paul.

> 
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Vick Khera  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
> posting instructions on doing it could cause trouble.
> 
> Trouble for whom?
> 
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Re: [pfSense] Cisco IPSEC configuration

2012-09-14 Thread Ian Bowers 
Whoever hosts the instructions.  they open themselves up for cease and
desist letters and potentially litigation.

Not trying to be a wet blanket, just saying...  in the open source
community we have to be careful and respectful of licensing.

On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Vick Khera  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:
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>> posting instructions on doing it could cause trouble.
>
>
> Trouble for whom?
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Re: [pfSense] Cisco IPSEC configuration

2012-09-14 Thread Vick Khera 
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Ian Bowers  wrote:

> posting instructions on doing it could cause trouble.


Trouble for whom?
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Re: [pfSense] Cisco IPSEC configuration

2012-09-12 Thread Ian Bowers 
This might be tough only because there are license issues.  Technically the
license for using the client software dictates you're not allowed to use it
with anything but Cisco head end gear.  While that may not stop people from
using it with other gear, posting instructions on doing it could cause
trouble.

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Matthew Patton wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:54:03 -0400, Chris Buechler 
> wrote:
>
>  The Cisco IPsec client works.
>>
>
> Would it be too much trouble to suport that assertion with a HOWTO in the
> wiki? I've never had a cisco client crash/blue screen but that's just me.
> (PITA to use sometimes? sure) It is the universal default for the vast
> majority of users not doing SSL-VPN so it would be mighty useful to have
> this documented where we can find it.
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[pfSense] Cisco IPSEC configuration

2012-09-12 Thread Matthew Patton 

On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 16:54:03 -0400, Chris Buechler  wrote:


The Cisco IPsec client works.


Would it be too much trouble to suport that assertion with a HOWTO in the  
wiki? I've never had a cisco client crash/blue screen but that's just me.  
(PITA to use sometimes? sure) It is the universal default for the vast  
majority of users not doing SSL-VPN so it would be mighty useful to have  
this documented where we can find it.


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