Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-09 Thread David Dorward
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:53:07AM +, Barney Carroll wrote: * Users with images turned off see nothing This is a difficult one. I have a FF extension that disables flash by default (mostly to avoid downloading, seeing and hearing awful adverts), and in doing so I am resigned to

Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-09 Thread Barney Carroll
David Dorward wrote: HTML comes with built in methods of providing alternative content for pretty much everything that isn't text. There's no need to try to turn the concept upside down and have text replaced with other content using CSS - it doesn't work as well. If anything, I'm suggesting

Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-09 Thread David Dorward
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:59:18PM +, Barney Carroll wrote: If anything, I'm suggesting markup content that's 'stronger' than alt tags. Removing significant text content is not my game at all. I can't see any suggestion in the specification that so much as suggests alt text has any less

[WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread Robin @ Xplore.net
Happy New Year Group, Could someone please clarify for me the best way to markup an image in a template, take a header image for example. In the interest of keeping structure from content I have recently been using background images wherever possible to keep my markup as clean as possible but

RE: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Bennett
@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin @ Xplore.net Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Image markup clarification Happy New Year Group, Could someone please clarify for me the best way to markup an image

Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Robin @ Xplore.net wrote: Happy New Year Group, Could someone please clarify for me the best way to markup an image in a template, take a header image for example. In the interest of keeping structure from content I have recently been using background images wherever possible to keep my

Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread David Dorward
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 08:23:18AM +1300, Robin @ Xplore.net wrote: Could someone please clarify for me the best way to markup an image in a template, take a header image for example. In the interest of keeping structure from content I have recently been using background images

Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Novitski
At 1/8/2007 11:23 AM, Robin @ Xplore.net wrote: Could someone please clarify for me the best way to markup an image in a template, take a header image for example. In the interest of keeping structure from content I have recently been using background images wherever possible to keep my markup

Re: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread John S. Britsios
Robin, since you are using background images, I assume that the images are meaningless, and only for decoration reasons. Therefore you do not need alt attributes there. It is true that alt attributes are a little piece of the search engines algorithms, which can boost a bit your rankings,

RE: [WSG] Image markup clarification

2007-01-08 Thread Robin @ Xplore.net
. _ From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin @ Xplore.net Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2007 8:23 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Image markup clarification Happy New Year Group, Could someone please clarify for me the best way