[WSG] Fwd: IE5 Bug - Image won't appear when floated. Please help.

2006-04-17 Thread Waz and Elle
Thank you. Will go a head and try it and let you know.Cheers,Elle Adding position:relative to the floatleft class fixes it here. This did not cause any problems on other browser I have (IE6, Firefox, Opera) but you may want to filter this so only IE5 and below gets this styling, either using IE's conditional comments or other CSS filtering methods. Regards Jason

Re: [WSG] IE5 Bug - Image won't appear when floated - joes

2006-04-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/04/17 01:18 (GMT-0400) Elle apparently typed:

 The page is at: http://waznelle.com/3756/joes/home.html
 and http://waznelle.com/3756/joes/staff.html
 and http://waznelle.com/3756/joes/recipes.html
 The css is at: http://waznelle.com/3756/joes/joesmain.css
 Thanks for having a look

Now that you've fixed the original problem with position:relative it
would be good to tune it to accomodate users who prefer large fonts 
windows and use high resolution. Here's what I see:
http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/wazelle1.jpg 241k hires screenshot
http://waznelle.com/3756/joes/home.html SS setup  related links
Please note the disclaimer at the bottom of the setup page.

A read at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dao/ should be instructive too.
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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread James O'Neill
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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Joseph Bernhardt
I would use either use just a definition list or an unordered list with 
a nested definition list. Therefor, it is a list of questions with the 
answers being the questions definition. That's how it makes sense to me! 
:) Example:


ul
   lidldtWhat's the deal with this website?/dt
ddWell, the deal with this website is this.  This is 
the deal with this website./dd

   /dl/li
   lidldtWhat do I do with this website?/dt
ddHere is what you do with this website.  This is 
what you do with this website./dd

   /dl/li
/ul

I wrote this without researching semanticity (is that a word?) first.  I 
may be wrong...


Hope it helps!

Jough

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Greetings.

I'm marking up an FAQ for an XHTML 1.1/CSS Web page. What is the best way
to mark up the questions and answers so it will be semantically correct
and standards compliant?

Right now, the FAQ is in a table-based format using a numbered list.

Thanks.

Kim
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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Joseph Bernhardt
I disagree.  I think the answer to a question is its definition.  Think 
of it like a dictionary.


What does the word dog mean?
Definition: A four legged mammal with a tail.
a question is nothing 
which can be defined.




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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Al Sparber

From: Joseph Bernhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I disagree.  I think the answer to a question is its definition. 
Think of it like a dictionary.


It depends on the nature of the questions and answers. In many cases a 
heading and a paragraph are perfectly appropriate. I'll leave the 
issue of whether some FAQs should be unordered lists or definition 
lists as a matter of opinion.


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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Al Sparber wrote:
 From: Joseph Bernhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I disagree.  I think the answer to a question is its definition.
 Think of it like a dictionary.

 It depends on the nature of the questions and answers. In many cases a
 heading and a paragraph are perfectly appropriate. I'll leave the
 issue of whether some FAQs should be unordered lists or definition
 lists as a matter of opinion.

The problem I see with headings and paragraphs is that there is no
semantic boundaries/delimiters.
One of the advantages of using a list is - IMHO - that we know where it
starts and where it finishes.

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RE: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Adam Burmister \(DSL AK\)
 The problem I see with headings and paragraphs is that there is no
 semantic boundaries/delimiters.
 One of the advantages of using a list is - IMHO - that we know where
it
 starts and where it finishes.

Being inside a UL/LI would solve that problem.

I think the UL is just as justifiable as using the DL, perhaps more so
because there is a boundary - unlike the DL.
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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Thierry Koblentz wrote:


The problem I see with headings and paragraphs is that there is no
semantic boundaries/delimiters.
One of the advantages of using a list is - IMHO - that we know where it
starts and where it finishes.


Without getting too conceptual, though, I'd say that these boundaries 
are intrinsic to the actual structure. A heading refers to anything up 
until another heading of same or higher order appears in the markup.


Similar thoughts for the it doesn't imply that it's a list, it doesn't 
have an order, etc argument. The fact that the markup is parsed in  a 
linear way implicitly gives order to elements present in the markup, and 
to a certain degree implies that something can be seen as a list (though 
this second part is certainly less strong, and using an actual UL or OL 
when appropriate is best...but what I'm saying is don't kill yourself 
over it, as otherwise staring too hard at things you may come to the 
conclusion that *everything* is a list and needs to be marked up as 
such, which can result in ludicrous extremes of markup)


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Re: [WSG] Convert html to ascii script?

2006-04-17 Thread Dan Bowling
Thanks, that did the trick.On 4/17/06, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.mikezilla.com/exp0012.html
http://www.vortex.prodigynet.co.uk/misc/ascii_conv.html
On 4/18/06, Dan Bowling 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I would like to post some code online, but
it is a ton of work to manually convert tags to their ascii
equivalents. Is there a fast, online (or offline) converter for this?
The google approach has yet to yield me any free results.
-- Dan Bowling715 682 1401
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Re: [WSG] Convert html to ascii script?

2006-04-17 Thread Charles Eaton

i have one setup at:
http://www.eatons.net/tools/code2html.html
it will convert and syntax color your code. You can use it or get the 
source code from the link at the very bottom of the page.

-chuck
PS: you can also add line numbers.
==
On Apr 17, 2006, at 6:09 PM, Dan Bowling wrote:

I would like to post some code online, but it is a ton of work to 
manually convert tags to their ascii equivalents. Is there a fast, 
online (or offline) converter for this? The google approach has yet to 
yield me any free results.


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RE: [WSG] Convert html to ascii script?

2006-04-17 Thread Ted Drake








Heres the easiest method out there,
if you have dreamweaver



Paste your source code into the design
view of Dreamweaver. Then go to the code view and all of the code elements have
been converted to ascii.



Ted

www.last-child.com









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Sent: Monday, April 17, 2006 4:31
PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Convert html to
ascii script?





Thanks, that did the
trick.



On 4/17/06, Stuart
Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



http://www.mikezilla.com/exp0012.html
http://www.vortex.prodigynet.co.uk/misc/ascii_conv.html









On 4/18/06, Dan
Bowling  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:



I would like to post some code online, but it is a ton of work to
manually convert tags to their ascii equivalents. Is there a fast, online (or
offline) converter for this? The google approach has yet to yield me any free
results. 







-- 
Dan Bowling

715 682 1401
http://www.northlander.org



















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715 682 1401
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Re: [WSG] Markup for an FAQ?

2006-04-17 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
 Thierry Koblentz wrote:
 
 The problem I see with headings and paragraphs is that there is no
 semantic boundaries/delimiters.
 One of the advantages of using a list is - IMHO - that we know where
 it starts and where it finishes.
 
 Without getting too conceptual, though, I'd say that these boundaries
 are intrinsic to the actual structure. A heading refers to anything up
 until another heading of same or higher order appears in the markup.
 
 Similar thoughts for the it doesn't imply that it's a list, it
 doesn't have an order, etc argument. The fact that the markup is
 parsed in  a linear way implicitly gives order to elements present in
 the markup, and to a certain degree implies that something can be
 seen as a list (though this second part is certainly less strong, 

That's the less strong part I was talking about ;-)

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[WSG] Australian Web Conference update

2006-04-17 Thread John Allsopp

Hi All,

A few weeks ago, Peter Ferminger was kind enough to let you all know  
that regrettably this year there won't be a Web Essentials conference.


But, as promised, in the tradition of those very successful events  
there will be a conference, brought to you by two of the founders of  
WE04 and WE05, Maxine Sherrin and John Allsopp.


http://webdirections.org

Web Directions is on in Sydney September 28 and 29, and while we will  
officially launch in early May, our site is up, so you can subscribe  
to the RSS feed for news, or send us an email so you'll be the first  
to know when registrations open. WE05 did sell out, disappointing  
quite a few people, so don't miss out this year if you are interested.


http://www.webdirections.org/feed/rss/
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Expect even more of what you liked about WE04 and WE05, with new  
subject areas like Information Architecture, an even bigger lineup of  
Australian and international experts, and two days of full day  
workshops from world leaders in web design and development, user  
centred design, Accessibility, and Javascript, DOM and AJAX development.


See you in Sydney in September, and keep an eye out for events in the  
leadup to the conference,


thanks

john

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Re: [WSG] Yay! Pretty Colors

2006-04-17 Thread john

CK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The color you mentioned is a standard from the color cube.


Just to check on that -- which colour cube? If you're referring to 
the somewhat discredited web safe pallette which we all relied on 
so much back in the day, I think you're mistaken, because that cube 
only has values containing the 00,33,66,99,CC and FF hex values.


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Re: [WSG] UL/LI or DL/DT for drop down menu

2006-04-17 Thread Al Sparber

From: Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello All

I'm putting together a drop down menu that currently uses UL as the
container and LI's as the tag for each menu item. What does everyone 
think

of this in regards to symantics?

Should I be using a DL/DT pairing instead - it seems to me that 
drop-down
lists could be considered definition lists. I don't know, I go back 
and

forth on this.

Menu would be the obvious choice, but it's been deprecated.

Interested in this communities opinion.


For a menu, an unordered list would probably be the better choice.

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