[WSG] should ebay listing alike be tabular layout?

2006-08-05 Thread tee g. peng

Hi I have a question, should ebay listing alike  be tabular layout?
Have a small job comes in that client asks to convert an ebay alike  
auction layout (which is done in table) to css. I think it's tabular  
justifiable and therefor do not wish client to spend unnecessary  
money for me to do the conversion. Thought I get a second opinion  
from you experts.



Thanks!

tee


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[WSG] on P H1-H6 Block Elements

2006-08-05 Thread Shlomi Asaf
Hi All.
i just been informed that P  Hn Elements are Inline Element. How Come?
how can those elements be inline, and the user-agent render them as Block-level elements?

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H1
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-P

this information shocked the ground im standing on.
i used to think that the HTML modul algorithem serves us 2 kinds of tags for diferent porposes, and if P is an inline tag, so there is no Block-level elemnt for discrobing Paragraphs with a Scope and porpotions of a block level element.


can anyone plz explain to me how come a P  Hn tags can be inlines???

Thank you
NeoSwf

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Re: [WSG] on P H1-H6 Block Elements

2006-08-05 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun

Shlomi Asaf wrote:
i just been informed that P  Hn Elements are Inline Element. How 
Come? how can those elements be inline, and the user-agent render 
them as Block-level elements?


http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H1 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-P



can anyone plz explain to me how come a P  Hn tags can be inlines???


They are *not*. Paragraphs and headings are block-elements, but they can
only have inline-elements as content. That's actually what W3C says.

And from another page...
  Block-level elements are those elements of the source document that
are formatted visually as blocks (e.g., paragraphs).[1]

---

I think the following list is still pretty good...

The following are defined as block-level elements in HTML 4.0:
[Strict only]

ADDRESS - Address
BLOCKQUOTE - Block quotation
DIV - Generic block-level container
DL - Definition list
FIELDSET - Form control group
FORM - Interactive form
H1 - Level-one heading
H2 - Level-two heading
H3 - Level-three heading
H4 - Level-four heading
H5 - Level-five heading
H6 - Level-six heading
HR - Horizontal rule
NOSCRIPT - Alternate script content
OL - Ordered list
P - Paragraph
PRE - Preformatted text
TABLE - Table
UL - Unordered list

The following elements may also be considered block-level elements since
they may contain block-level elements:

DD - Definition description
DT - Definition term
LI - List item
TBODY - Table body
TD - Table data cell
TFOOT - Table foot
TH - Table header cell
THEAD - Table head
TR - Table row

The following elements may be used as either block-level elements or
inline elements. If used as inline elements (e.g., within another inline
element or a P), these elements should not contain any block-level elements.

BUTTON - Button
DEL - Deleted text
INS - Inserted text
MAP - Image map
OBJECT - Object
SCRIPT - Client-side script

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regards
Georg

[1]http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/visuren.html#q5
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Re: [WSG] on P H1-H6 Block Elements

2006-08-05 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Shlomi Asaf wrote:

i just been informed that P  Hn Elements are Inline Element. How Come?
how can those elements be inline, and the user-agent render them as 
Block-level elements?
 
http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#edef-H1

http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-P
 
this information shocked the ground im standing on.


You wouldn't be shocked if you read the DTD properly. I'm assuming that 
this is what you're referring to:


!ELEMENT (%heading;)  - - (%inline;)* -- heading --
!ELEMENT P - O (%inline;)*-- paragraph --

the (%inline;)* part refers to the type of elements that the H and P 
*are allowed to contain*, and does NOT refer to the H and P themselves.


http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/dtd.html#block defines what elements 
are block level, and you'll see that %headings is listed there. So 
unshock yourself, all is as it should be...


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