Re: [WSG] Danish Ministry of Taxation spend 1.38 million US dollars on just a new logo insert on web site
Soren, It would be very interesting to learn more about the decision-making process here. Do you know anything more about the project than what you've sent through? I'd love to know whether there was any discussion about moving to a templated approach to the pages - replacing those standard elements with an include of some description? By the way: the cost for the logo design is reasonable for a large organisation. There's a lot that is taken into consideration, although its always hard to fathom how such a simple end-result can cost so much. Cheers Steve Baty PS: Merry XMas to you all. FYI: the Danish Ministry of Taxation has got a new logo http://www.skat.dk/SKAT.aspx First they pay 38 US dollars for the design of the logo . Then they spend 138 US dollars in working labour money for inserting the logo manually (SIC!) on every single web page at the Danish Ministry of Taxation. It's not a brand new redesign just the new logo has been inserted. The story does not tell what kind of CMS or HTML editor they are using, but this sound stupid to Copy and paste manually on every single page when they have so many web pages at their domain. -- Steve 'Doc' Baty B.Sc (Maths), M.EC, MBA Director, User Experience Strategy Red Square P: +612 8289 4930 M: +61 417 061 292 Member, UPA - www.upassoc.org Member, IxDA - www.ixda.org Member, Web Standards Group - www.webstandardsgroup.org *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong?
Susie,Having looked at the page I'm going to assume you're referring to the way visited links are styled, since all of the links on this page were bolded when I viewed it. The trouble, then, appears to be here:
a:link { font-weight: bold; color:#003399; text-decoration: none; }a:visited { color: #0066CC; }a:hover { color: #003399; text-decoration: underline; }a:active { color: #003399; }
The a:link is styled bold, but the others are not. Depending on the effect you're after you will need to add the font-weight: bold to each of the others, or add it to a generic a tag style.HTHSteve
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Hi thereI've just had to add a link to a site I made a little while ago, andalthough the stylesheet makes all links bold, this one isn't! I can't forthe life of me see why - can anyone here?
http://www.byronalexandercentre.com/links.htmlAnd by the way - I do know I should have made the lefthand nav text-basedetc., but I had a really short time to do this and I just couldn't get thebackground colour layout to work! The graphic designer is a friend of the
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Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles
Jeff,Who is the corporate site targetted towards? I don't think its actual musicians - they'd be more likely (IMO) to go to one of the specific brand sites. So for a corporate/group Web site - i.e. an umbrella site displaying the breadth of the range - the visual representation isn't bad per se. However, the execution fails on a number of levels. Christian's list provides a really good start for the flaws in this site, but the real danger for me is the possibility that this same style of presentation might be used on the brand-specific Web sites like www.kustom.com - that would be a disaster.For the corporate site, the code-level execution is going to act as one big sandbag - holding the site back from reaching out to its audience through search engines; limiting accessibility; limiting usability usefulness; and (perhaps most importantly) setting a poor initial impression with respect to the company's products. On the surface it's hard to say whether the site is 'on message', but I'd be really surprised if that were the case. With all of that said, it's always difficult to judge a site from the outside, except on superficial grounds. Knowing the intent of the site is important, and the audience, so I would put one big caveat around the above two paragraphs and say It _looks_ bad, but it might be right for the audience. Regards,Steve BatyOn 05/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:-- --Steve 'Doc' Baty B.Sc (Maths), M.EC, MBADirector, User Experience StrategyRed Square P: +612 8289 4930M: +61 417 061 292Member, UPA - www.upassoc.orgMember, IxDA - www.ixda.orgMember, Web Standards Group - www.webstandardsgroup.org ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Bad Design Principles
Nick,Just by way of clarification, when I said it _looks_ bad I wasn't referring to the visual aspect of the design, but rather the execution. CheersSteve On 06/10/06, Nick Lo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I wouldn't even say it looks bad as visually it's much betterthan a lot of sites (aside from little things like overly faint and/or small text). With that in mind the only way to really say it is bad design is if it is inappropriate to it's requirements... which wedon't know.--Steve 'Doc' Baty B.Sc (Maths), M.EC , MBADirector, User Experience StrategyRed SquareP: +612 8289 4930M: +61 417 061 292Member, UPA - www.upassoc.orgMember, IxDA - www.ixda.orgMember, Web Standards Group - www.webstandardsgroup.org ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Pixel Perfect
Bruce,I haven't been asked this before - not in 10 years. Typically there's a requirement for a particular page(s) to be able to be saved as a PDF, but for that we provide dedicated specific functionality - using a server-side PDF generator. It's a reasonable request, though, and could be achieved using a print stylesheet (which I understand haven't been added yet), so you may want to ask the client for definite requirements in this regard. From the sounds of it the requirements aren't clear at this stage - there's no way I'd expect a Web page to create a perfect PDF without special consideration of that requirement up-front.CheersSteve On 05/06/06, Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I ran into something todat from a client I have never seen here or elsewhere. A client claiming there must be code errors because in making a pdf file of the site there are a couple of images out a few pixels, one considerably. Says clients need to be able to make nice copies of the site! The site is 100% error free in both code and css according to the w3c validator, no errors, no warnings on css. Has anyone ran into this? I have the tendency to tell the client to shop elsewhere Thanks Bruce Prochnau-- --Steve 'Doc' Baty B.Sc (Maths), M.EC, MBA Director, User Experience StrategyRed SquareP: +612 8289 4930M: +61 417 061 292Member, UPA - www.upassoc.orgMember, IxDA - www.ixda.org Member, Web Standards Group - www.webstandardsgroup.org **The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Pixel to Em conversion - understanding IRONY
Russ,I always thought irony was like goldy and silvery. Thanks for the clarification.SteveOn 27/04/06, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:OK, I'm getting a little worried here. Some of the recent posts have used a relatively new concept called irony. For those who haven't heard of this,here is a brief description:Irony is a form of speech in which the real meaning is concealed orcontradicted by the words used. Irony involves the perception that things are not what they are said to be or what they seem.So, when people are posting messages about using large images with altattributes, spacer gifs etc, you can rest assured that they are using this new fangled irony thing.
