[WSG] Google Image changes: inaccesssibility for all

2007-01-25 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

Hi,

As Barney Carroll mentioned in a post to the group earlier today,  
Google Images has changed so that information such as image  
dimensions and domain is only displayed when mousing over an image.


My tests in Firefox show that using the tab key to give focus to an  
image doesn't reveal the hidden information, making that information  
inaccessible to users who don't use a mouse or similar pointing device.


Matt Cutts of Google has blogged about it [1], and the comments so  
far are universally opposed to the change. I'm NOT suggesting that we  
start a flame war on his blog (he's not responsible for the change,  
merely pointing it out), but if anybody else feels strongly about  
this retrograde step they may wish to leave a useful comment there,  
as he has usually been willing to pass concerns like this along to  
the right people within Google.


If you do comment there, note that he moderates all first-time  
commenters. So only put him to the trouble if you have something  
worthwhile to add to the discussion, and don't keep re-posting the  
same comment wondering why it hasn't shown up yet.


[1] http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/refresh-of-images-and-groups/

Regards,

Nick.
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http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/





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Re: [WSG] Google Image changes: inaccesssibility for all

2007-01-25 Thread Brian Cummiskey

Nick Fitzsimons wrote:

Hi,

As Barney Carroll mentioned in a post to the group earlier today, 
Google Images has changed so that information such as image dimensions 
and domain is only displayed when mousing over an image.


My tests in Firefox show that using the tab key to give focus to an 
image doesn't reveal the hidden information, making that information 
inaccessible to users who don't use a mouse or similar pointing device. 
The majority of Google is inaccessible in some shape or form.  What's 
one more piece going to do?



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Re: [WSG] Google Image changes: inaccesssibility for all

2007-01-25 Thread Barney Carroll

Brian Cummiskey wrote:
The majority of Google is inaccessible in some shape or form.  What's 
one more piece going to do?


I hate to sound like a fascist, but in terms of usability for sighted 
users with compliant browsers (I know, why would we even care?), this is 
the first time Google's eccentric attitude to standards has actually 
impeded my use of any of their services.


The notion merits consideration: These incredibly 'inaccessible' 
services are some of the most incredibly accessed on the web.


Regards,
Barney


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Re: [WSG] Google Image changes: inaccesssibility for all

2007-01-25 Thread Barney Carroll

Barney Carroll wrote:
I hate to sound like a fascist, but in terms of usability for sighted 
users with compliant browsers (I know, why would we even care?), this is 
the first time Google's eccentric attitude to standards has actually 
impeded my use of any of their services.


The notion merits consideration: These incredibly 'inaccessible' 
services are some of the most incredibly accessed on the web.


Sorry, I'm turning into a demagogue.

Of course I still believe it would be great if I could get less than 
2000 validation warnings per page, and perhaps less than 10 sub-nested 
tables in my Gmail app. Of course Google could be better - but still, I 
/do/ care now that one of their products has become practically less 
usable from a user perspective, as opposed to just abominable by theory.


Regards,
Barney


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