RE: [WSG] [OT] Max length of title and description

2006-06-20 Thread Taco Fleur
Hi Lindsay,

That's excellent, thanks. Just what I was after. 




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Re: [WSG] [OT] Max length of title and description

2006-06-20 Thread Daniel Champion
Kat wrote:

Title
According the the W3C:
http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/TITLE.html

There is no actual limit on title but it is recommended that it is less 
than 64 characters.

I think it's important to point out that the W3C Style Guide from which 
that suggestion (not recommendation) comes is very dated and comes with 
this warning:

This document was written in the early days of the web (1992), defining 
such terms as webmaster, the www.xxx.com convention, and a few basic 
points which are just as valid today.  It has not been updated to discuss 
recent developments in HTML., and is out of date in many places, except 
for the addition of a few new pages, with given dates.

It also goes on to say:

That is, many applications will display document titles in window titles, 
menus, etc where there is only limited room.

Given that average screen sizes have increased since 1998, when the W3C 
Style was last updated, I wouldn't be overly concerned about titles above 
64 characters, and I certainly wouldn't treat 64 as an official 
recommendation or as a magic number.

Dan




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Re: [WSG] [OT] Max length of title and description

2006-06-19 Thread Gary

Taco Fleur wrote:

Hello,
 
not sure whether this it OT or not?
Trying to figure out the maximum length allowed for the title tag 
and description meta tag.
I've looked at www.w3.org http://www.w3.org just can't seem to find 
my way around it.
 
Kind regards,
 


*Taco Fleur *


Maybe more of a SEO issue.  If you have a title longer than 120 
characters you are diluting the keyword density with the title tag.  I 
would limit to 60-70 characters, 10-12 words.


Description tag - not used generally anymore by search bots in SEO 
besides the description displayed on the search results page.


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Gary



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Re: [WSG] [OT] Max length of title and description

2006-06-19 Thread Lindsay Evans

Hi Taco,

While there is nothing in the HTML spec to limit the length of a title
or description, you should keep this in mind:
The title should ideally be less than 64 characters in length. That
is, many applications will display document titles in window titles,
menus, etc where there is only limited room. Whilst there is no limit
on the length of a title (as it may be automatically generated from
other data), information providers are warned that it may be truncated
if long.
(http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/TITLE.html)

eg. Titles in Google results are truncated to the first 66 characters,
and Internet Explorer truncates the text shown in the title bar to 96
characters.

I'd recommend allowing for a largish (say 128 characters) title, but
warning the user if it goes above 64.

On 6/20/06, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

not sure whether  this it OT or not?
Trying to figure out  the maximum length allowed for the title tag and 
description meta  tag.
I've looked at www.w3.org just can't seem to find my way around  it.


--
Lindsay Evans
http://lindsayevans.com/


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Re: [WSG] [OT] Max length of title and description

2006-06-19 Thread Katrina


Title
According the the W3C:
http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/TITLE.html

There is no actual limit on title but it is recommended that it is less 
than 64 characters.


Meta
It doesn't seem that the W3C says much about that, but there could be a 
profile that does?

http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/global.html#h-7.4.4

Kat


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