Re: SUP (was Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension)
Designer wrote: See: http://colorantshistory.org/HistoryInternationalDyeIndustryRev1/HistoryInternationalDyestuffIndustryFirefox/dyestuffs.html As it is a 'scientific' publication, I followed the normal scientific conventions, so the references are all 'SUPped'. That is a visual convention, so I'd relegate it to CSS and just style them as spans (or even better, mark them up as links that jump to the reference, and style the links). They don't lose any meaning, in my opinion, if - when CSS is off/unavailable - they're not visually displayed as SUP. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: SUP (was Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension)
Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
That is a visual convention, so I'd relegate it to CSS and just style
them as spans (or even better, mark them up as links that jump to the
reference, and style the links).
They don't lose any meaning, in my opinion, if - when CSS is
off/unavailable - they're not visually displayed as SUP.
P
You're right, they don't lose any meaning - but they do look a LOT
better and easier to read when 'supped' (that, of course is why
superscript came into being :-) ) Remember that a superscripted
reference is a two way reference : you may want to see what Joe Bloggs
has contributed to the discussion, so you look him up via the references
(at the end of the doc) and, armed with his ref numbers, you look
through the body of the text to see what the relevance of what's being
said is, in context.
I did consider doing this:
.ref{
font-size: 70%;
font-weight: bold;
margin-left: 1px;
position : relative;
bottom : 5px;
}
and then
pThis is a referencespan class=ref[5]/span and the sentence
carries on . . ./p
but, as I said, I considered this to be overkill. Pragmatism again?
Bob
www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
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Re: SUP (was Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension)
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Designer wrote: I don't want to start the argument all over again, Patrick, but I had occasion to use SUP recently so I wondered how you'd do it instead? I presume you'd define it in CSS with a smaller font and bottom padding, but it seems a bit like overkill . . .? Depends on the context (which is really the point: sub/sup, as they currently stand, don't actually provide a proper context, but just define how something should look). So, what occasion was it, exactly? P See: http://colorantshistory.org/HistoryInternationalDyeIndustryRev1/HistoryInternationalDyestuffIndustryFirefox/dyestuffs.html This is one (very long!) page I did for a colleague, in an effort to convince him to use standards instead of Yahoo web builder. scream. Sadly, he added some counter stuff on the end, which makes it fail validation at around line 4300. As it is a 'scientific' publication, I followed the normal scientific conventions, so the references are all 'SUPped'. I considered (rightly or wrongly!) that since sup does validate, it was OK in these circumstances . . . Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
SUP (was Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension)
Designer wrote: I don't want to start the argument all over again, Patrick, but I had occasion to use SUP recently so I wondered how you'd do it instead? I presume you'd define it in CSS with a smaller font and bottom padding, but it seems a bit like overkill . . .? Depends on the context (which is really the point: sub/sup, as they currently stand, don't actually provide a proper context, but just define how something should look). So, what occasion was it, exactly? P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
