Re: [OSGeoLive] Presentation.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I figured it out.  I needed the whole reveal.js javascript lib to make it work. 
 Just have to repoint some of the javascript locating links at the bottom of 
the main presentation page.

I’ve got it all running locally now from a USB drive.

Thanks

bobb



On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Bob,

As it seems you have noticed, the front page of the slide deck [1] says:

Press "s" for slide notes, ESC to zoom out, SPACE / arrow keys to navigate.

It is possible you have been pressing upper case "S" (which doesn't work) 
instead of lower case "s" (which should work).

What should happen is another browser window will open up. If your browser has 
been configured to prevent the opening of popups, then that might be the 
problem you are experiencing. Maybe see if you have an error message saying 
that a window is being blocked from being opened, or check your settings, or 
try a different browser.

Hope that helps, Cameron

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/

On 28/2/18 5:07 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All (or Cameron),

I’m givong the OSGeoLive presentation next week and I have a localized copy of 
the Reveal.js presentation, but I can’t seem to figure out how to easily get 
the presenter notes.

This is actually the first time I’ve even worried about, since the presentation 
itself just works as a localized set of file, but I figured I would try to get 
the Notes working too.

I want to run from a USB  (HTML) folder.  Again I have the presentation just 
fine, jus tlooking for hints on an easy way to get the NOTE working.  I tried a 
couple of Link changes in the main file, but I didn’t see anything obvious that 
the “S” option activates in the HTML.  Still looking.

Thanks

all

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Re: [OSGeoLive] Presentation.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Hi Cameron,

The “s” options works fine when I run it from the Website (online), but when I 
try to save the presentation locally and run if from a local file location, the 
NOTE aspects are not found.  I can get both to work independently (so far).  I 
downloaded the NOTEs pages locally as a separate download,  just trying to link 
them together correctly, in the main presentation.

I want to be able to run without a internet connection, etc.  all resources 
contained on a Thumb drive.

Just looking for hints on where the link might be in the main presentation.

bobb



On Feb 27, 2018, at 1:08 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Bob,

As it seems you have noticed, the front page of the slide deck [1] says:

Press "s" for slide notes, ESC to zoom out, SPACE / arrow keys to navigate.

It is possible you have been pressing upper case "S" (which doesn't work) 
instead of lower case "s" (which should work).

What should happen is another browser window will open up. If your browser has 
been configured to prevent the opening of popups, then that might be the 
problem you are experiencing. Maybe see if you have an error message saying 
that a window is being blocked from being opened, or check your settings, or 
try a different browser.

Hope that helps, Cameron

[1] https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/

On 28/2/18 5:07 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All (or Cameron),

I’m givong the OSGeoLive presentation next week and I have a localized copy of 
the Reveal.js presentation, but I can’t seem to figure out how to easily get 
the presenter notes.

This is actually the first time I’ve even worried about, since the presentation 
itself just works as a localized set of file, but I figured I would try to get 
the Notes working too.

I want to run from a USB  (HTML) folder.  Again I have the presentation just 
fine, jus tlooking for hints on an easy way to get the NOTE working.  I tried a 
couple of Link changes in the main file, but I didn’t see anything obvious that 
the “S” option activates in the HTML.  Still looking.

Thanks

all

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[OSGeoLive] Presentation.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All (or Cameron),

I’m givong the OSGeoLive presentation next week and I have a localized copy of 
the Reveal.js presentation, but I can’t seem to figure out how to easily get 
the presenter notes.

This is actually the first time I’ve even worried about, since the presentation 
itself just works as a localized set of file, but I figured I would try to get 
the Notes working too.

I want to run from a USB  (HTML) folder.  Again I have the presentation just 
fine, jus tlooking for hints on an easy way to get the NOTE working.  I tried a 
couple of Link changes in the main file, but I didn’t see anything obvious that 
the “S” option activates in the HTML.  Still looking.

Thanks

all

bobb



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Re: [OSGeoLive] Question to the two of you about OSGeo Live and presentations

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Jody,

Ok, what’s the process movning forward?

bobb



On Feb 5, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Jody Garnett 
<jody.garn...@gmail.com<mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Bob we do have a spot for unsigned but proactive partners - we call them 
friends :)

If you are interested let's approach the board, with the information you 
provided here, and set up a page for GITA (highlighting the good work, and  
open source advocacy) they do.

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On 1 February 2018 at 13:14, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us<mailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
All,

Recieved this from the GITA admin conference contact:




Jody and Cameron,
Thank you for the assistance. Per your question: “Q: Does GITA have a partner 
relationship with OSGeo?”

GITA does not have an MOU or similar in place with OSGeo.  However,


  *   GITA ran FOSS4G in Denver,
  *   SharedGeo runs all of GITA’s operations (we are the entity behind the 
curtain),
  *   SharedGeo was the operational hosting organization for FOSS4G-NA 
Minneapolis, and
  *   As you are probably aware, SharedGeo is one of the prime supporters of 
the OSGeo GeoMoose project, last coordinating a $60,000 upgrade which resulted 
in GeoMoose 3.0.


So going forward I hope you will think of the GITA-SharedGeo team as an 
unsigned, but very proactive partner.  We would very much like to officially 
promote OSGeo Live at the GITA Phoenix Conference: 
www.gitasw.org<http://www.gitasw.org/>.  As such, the presentation by Bob, and 
the USNG track which follow will be open to the public for free.

Cheers,
Steve

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Cell: 612-239-6981<tel:(612)%20239-6981>
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Is this enough info to use for setting up a Press release?  Should I start up 
something?

Thanks

bobb





On Feb 1, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Bob, if ok with you, would you mind CCing this thread to live-demo 
<live-demo@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org>.

I like Jody's idea of a news item. I suggest draft it up a joint 
OSGeo-Live/GITA press release at: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive#Press_Releases

You could add a quote from GITA. Get a quote from one of the  people 
at OSGeo Live to add legitimacy.

"Angelos Tzotsos, chair of OSGeo Live and vice president of the OSGeo 
Foundation said ..." (assuming ok with Angelos)

The press release can include an endorsement of the speaker's involvement with 
OSGeo-Live as an authoritative contributor.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/2/18 4:04 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Quickest way is to get a thumbs up for OSGeo Live team, and ask them to make a 
blog post (https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/). Which is a good idea in any 
case.

You could also add the date to the OSGeo events: http://osgeo.org/events/

Q: Does GITA have a partner relationship with OSGeo?

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On 1 February 2018 at 08:23, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us<mailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
You two,

I’m doing the OSGeo Live, Lighting Presentation here next month:

https://gitasw.org/lightning-overview-of-the-best-geospatial-open-source/

And the organizers want to play up the OSGeo angle a bit more, what’s the 
quickest way to get official recognition / permission to say that OSGeo is 
advocating for the presentation?  The organizers want to send out a promotional 
blast in a few days.  If it makes any difference, we’re planning to also hand 
out preconfigured USBs at the event to each attendee.

Thanks

bobb


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Re: [OSGeoLive] Question to the two of you about OSGeo Live and presentations

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

Recieved this from the GITA admin conference contact:




Jody and Cameron,
Thank you for the assistance. Per your question: “Q: Does GITA have a partner 
relationship with OSGeo?”

GITA does not have an MOU or similar in place with OSGeo.  However,


  *   GITA ran FOSS4G in Denver,
  *   SharedGeo runs all of GITA’s operations (we are the entity behind the 
curtain),
  *   SharedGeo was the operational hosting organization for FOSS4G-NA 
Minneapolis, and
  *   As you are probably aware, SharedGeo is one of the prime supporters of 
the OSGeo GeoMoose project, last coordinating a $60,000 upgrade which resulted 
in GeoMoose 3.0.


So going forward I hope you will think of the GITA-SharedGeo team as an 
unsigned, but very proactive partner.  We would very much like to officially 
promote OSGeo Live at the GITA Phoenix Conference: 
www.gitasw.org<http://www.gitasw.org>.  As such, the presentation by Bob, and 
the USNG track which follow will be open to the public for free.

Cheers,
Steve

Stephen D. Swazee Sr.
GITA Admin
Office: 651-456-5411
Cell: 612-239-6981
ad...@gita.org<mailto:ad...@gita.org>

Website: www.gita.org<http://www.gita.org/>
1360 University Ave. West, Suite 455
St. Paul, MN 55104-4086
USNG<http://mmdolbow.github.io/usng-gmap-v3/>: 15T VK 8529 7851
Toll free: 844-447-4482  (844-GIS-GITA)



Is this enough info to use for setting up a Press release?  Should I start up 
something?

Thanks

bobb





On Feb 1, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Bob, if ok with you, would you mind CCing this thread to live-demo 
<live-demo@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org>.

I like Jody's idea of a news item. I suggest draft it up a joint 
OSGeo-Live/GITA press release at: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive#Press_Releases

You could add a quote from GITA. Get a quote from one of the  people 
at OSGeo Live to add legitimacy.

"Angelos Tzotsos, chair of OSGeo Live and vice president of the OSGeo 
Foundation said ..." (assuming ok with Angelos)

The press release can include an endorsement of the speaker's involvement with 
OSGeo-Live as an authoritative contributor.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/2/18 4:04 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Quickest way is to get a thumbs up for OSGeo Live team, and ask them to make a 
blog post (https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/). Which is a good idea in any 
case.

You could also add the date to the OSGeo events: http://osgeo.org/events/

Q: Does GITA have a partner relationship with OSGeo?

--
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On 1 February 2018 at 08:23, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us<mailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
You two,

I’m doing the OSGeo Live, Lighting Presentation here next month:

https://gitasw.org/lightning-overview-of-the-best-geospatial-open-source/

And the organizers want to play up the OSGeo angle a bit more, what’s the 
quickest way to get official recognition / permission to say that OSGeo is 
advocating for the presentation?  The organizers want to send out a promotional 
blast in a few days.  If it makes any difference, we’re planning to also hand 
out preconfigured USBs at the event to each attendee.

Thanks

bobb

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Re: [OSGeoLive] Question to the two of you about OSGeo Live and presentations

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

Moving conversation thread to the OSGeo List.

I’m working on getting the GITA quote . . . will post here.

bobb



On Feb 1, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Cameron Shorter 
<cameron.shor...@gmail.com<mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Bob, if ok with you, would you mind CCing this thread to live-demo 
<live-demo@lists.osgeo.org><mailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org>.

I like Jody's idea of a news item. I suggest draft it up a joint 
OSGeo-Live/GITA press release at: 
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeoLive#Press_Releases

You could add a quote from GITA. Get a quote from one of the  people 
at OSGeo Live to add legitimacy.

"Angelos Tzotsos, chair of OSGeo Live and vice president of the OSGeo 
Foundation said ..." (assuming ok with Angelos)

The press release can include an endorsement of the speaker's involvement with 
OSGeo-Live as an authoritative contributor.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/2/18 4:04 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
Quickest way is to get a thumbs up for OSGeo Live team, and ask them to make a 
blog post (https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/). Which is a good idea in any 
case.

You could also add the date to the OSGeo events: http://osgeo.org/events/

Q: Does GITA have a partner relationship with OSGeo?

--
Jody Garnett

On 1 February 2018 at 08:23, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us<mailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
You two,

I’m doing the OSGeo Live, Lighting Presentation here next month:

https://gitasw.org/lightning-overview-of-the-best-geospatial-open-source/

And the organizers want to play up the OSGeo angle a bit more, what’s the 
quickest way to get official recognition / permission to say that OSGeo is 
advocating for the presentation?  The organizers want to send out a promotional 
blast in a few days.  If it makes any difference, we’re planning to also hand 
out preconfigured USBs at the event to each attendee.

Thanks

bobb

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[OSGeoLive] Presentation coming up, how to announce and get advocation from OSGeo??

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Hello,

I have a presentation coming up soon here:

https://gitasw.org/lightning-overview-of-the-best-geospatial-open-source/

We’ll be distributing Live demo USBs to attendees as well.

Should/Could this be added to the Event list at OSGeo?

Also, would like to get some sort of OSGeo advocation statement if possible.  
Maybe listing on the Events would be good enough though.  The organizers of the 
conference want to send out a media blast in the next couple of days and wanted 
to incude something OSGeo specific related to this presentation.

Seaprately, what if any, is the approach moving forward for OSGeo to partner 
with GITA??

Thanks

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Re: [Live-demo] Small OSGeo logo to distinguish between Graduated and Community OSGeo projects

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A quicky Graduation Cap addition to the OSGeo icon . . . I rotated the symbol 
too, don’t know what the exact angle is supposed to be though.

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On Jul 12, 2017, at 9:58 AM, Vicky Vergara 
<vi...@georepublic.de<mailto:vi...@georepublic.de>> wrote:

about

putting a gradute cap

Those logos are 18 pixels high. Can you a demo artwork.


about

even add the Year it graduted with some CSS (I think)

Another way is: that kind of information can be done by the project's overview 
maintainers on the overview file.​
My feeling is that it will clog with too much info a list of projects.


I can make a demo of everything, but I already made 2 demos about the position 
of the logo, with the "OSGeo Star Logo"


Current looks:
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/overview/overview.html

Demo with logo at the left
https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-logo-left/en/overview/overview.html

Demo with logo after the project's name:
https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-petit-logo/en/overview/overview.html

The pending PR's of both demos
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/283
https://github.com/OSGeo/OSGeoLive-doc/pull/284
which are mutually exclusive.

Once, one of those is merged, I can work on:
demos using different logos.
demo of adding the graduation date (I would need the exact dates of all 
graduations.)


Regards Vicky


On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
<bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us<mailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>> wrote:
That looks rather nice and easy to tell what’s what’  An additional thought 
though, what about also putting a gradute cap 
(https://image.freepik.com/free-icon/graduates-cap_318-35625.jpg) on top of the 
logos where a project has graduated, you could even add the Year it graduted 
with some CSS (I think)

Just rambling . . . .

bobb



On Jul 12, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Cameron Shorter 
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Hi Marketing Committee,

Vicky has suggested a great improvement for our OSGeo-Live jump page, putting 
an OSGeo logo next to OSGeo applications. Example here:

https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-logo-left/en/overview/overview.html

I'm suggesting we should be distinguishing between OSGeo graduated projects 
(use existing full logo) and community projects, (use a smaller logo, which 
just has the central compass and not the outer ring.)



https://github.com/camerons/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/logo/images/logos/OSGeo_compass.png



https://github.com/camerons/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/logo/images/logos/OSGeo_compass_small.png

Any comments from the committee on such a variation on the logo?


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Re: [Live-demo] Small OSGeo logo to distinguish between Graduated and Community OSGeo projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

That looks rather nice and easy to tell what’s what’  An additional thought 
though, what about also putting a gradute cap 
(https://image.freepik.com/free-icon/graduates-cap_318-35625.jpg) on top of the 
logos where a project has graduated, you could even add the Year it graduted 
with some CSS (I think)

Just rambling . . . .

bobb



On Jul 12, 2017, at 5:00 AM, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:


Hi Marketing Committee,

Vicky has suggested a great improvement for our OSGeo-Live jump page, putting 
an OSGeo logo next to OSGeo applications. Example here:

https://cvvergara.github.io/osgeolive/add-logo-left/en/overview/overview.html

I'm suggesting we should be distinguishing between OSGeo graduated projects 
(use existing full logo) and community projects, (use a smaller logo, which 
just has the central compass and not the outer ring.)



https://github.com/camerons/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/logo/images/logos/OSGeo_compass.png



https://github.com/camerons/OSGeoLive-doc/blob/logo/images/logos/OSGeo_compass_small.png

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Re: [Live-demo] openhub.net stats

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I noticed similar faults in the readouts for the GeoMOOSE project.  It should 
be centered on Javascript as the Language but it’s being advertised as mostly 
PHP for some reason.  I couldn’t find a spot to edit that either.  It may be 
some sort of automated counter that the results are generated from, but even 
the last audit shows more Javascript lines of code.

GeoMOOSE had the same problems with line counts when moving between repos as 
well.  I think that was taken care of manually a little while ago.

Anyway, just chiming in.

bobb




On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Brian M Hamlin 
> wrote:

Hi Jody -
  thanks very much for your careful efforts ..
  The utility of having a single "source of truth" for lines of code, activity 
and some language profile, has slightly outweighed the undesirable dynamic of a 
FOSS dot-org requiring a third-party service constantly to understand its own 
projects.   Personally, I feel OSGeo should have this ability in-house, along 
with other methods, and not rely so heavily on this one metric site. Certain 
project's measurements are horribly wrong to this day, and inevitably carry 
bias of varying kinds.
  best regards from Berkeley
  -Brian M Hamlin




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> wrote:

I was looking at 
https://www.openhub.net/p/geotools/analyses/latest/languages_summary today and 
noticed a distinct stairstep pattern every time the geotools project migrated 
repository CVS, SVN, GIT.
This made the project appear at 2 million lines of code, rather than one 
million.
I have removed the old repositories, making the project appear younger than it 
is, but giving more accurate stats about what is there.
I am under the impression OSGeo Live enjoys these stats? feedback welcome. --
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Re: [Live-demo] Motion: Move from 2 releases to 1 per year

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I like the rolling release idea, it will allow for a always up to date version 
of things.  The Stable (yearly) release will always be floating in the 
background too.  Not so sure about the Yearly release schedule though.  Maybe 
Yearly at a minimum?  There might be those instances where a yearly cycle won’t 
sync up with OSGeo project, event, etc.

Still a +1


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On Apr 24, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:

As per weekly meeting discussion, we propose to switch from putting out two 
releases per year to putting out one main release per year.

We will likely also be putting out rolling releases which have been untested.

Reasons:

* As per prior discussions, we want to use our volunteer time more efficiently.

* We have improved build processes to be agile and efficient. However, our 
final test process still has significant manual testing. In particular around 
reviewing and updating documentation, and testing quickstarts.

Please comment and or vote on this proposal.

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Re: [Live-demo] "descoping" OSGeo-Live

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All,

I just logged into OpenHub and tried to see what updates I could add in there, 
and there’s not muchas far as options go for updating things manually, there 
are some things.  So I guess I’m on the fence about it for similar reasons to 
those described by Jim. I’ll wander back into it as time allows, but no 
predictions yet about a timeline on being able to make it accurately reflect 
the project goings ons.

bobb


On Apr 20, 2017, at 9:03 AM, James Klassen 
> wrote:

Speaking as a member of the GeoMoose PSC and as one of the people who keeps 
GeoMoose up to date in OSGeo-Live...  It isn't clear to me what to do about it 
but for the record OpenHub seems to be pretty confused about GeoMoose.

It is missing our early history (2005-2009).  It is confused about our recent 
history (probably because of our use of git submodules).  And it is completely 
unaware of our 3.0 developments (which are happening in new repos, incidently 
because we want to move away from git submodules).

As a project we would much rather be putting our time into maintaining 2.9.x 
and into the current effort to moderize our project for what will become our 
3.0 release than worring about how to get a black box (OpenHub) to properly 
understand our project's history.  Maybe when things quiet down OpenHub 
tinkering will make it to the top of the list, but I don't see that being the 
case anytime soon.

On Apr 20, 2017 3:38 AM, "Cameron Shorter" 
> wrote:
Hi Activity Workshop,

Yes, you make some good points, there are a number of things we should be 
considering when selecting a project for OSGeo-Live. A more detailed list is 
provided in our application form:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Apply

Cheers, Cameron

On 20/4/17 4:54 am, Activity Workshop wrote:
On 14/04/17 21:00, 
live-demo-requ...@lists.osgeo.org 
wrote:
While projects should rightly be concerned if OSGeo-Live only uses
OpenHub metrics to assess project health, they should be significantly
more concerned about the general public's assessment of their project.
You're correct to say that these metrics should not be the only criterion for
removing projects from OSGeo-Live.  There are so many other (in my view more
important) factors to consider:
- is the software useful?  Is the software reliable?
- is the inclusion straightforward or does it require lots of building /
packaging / patching / dependency-resolution work from the OSGeo-Live team?
- does it take up a lot of disk space?
- is the team responsive to questions from the OSGeo-Live team, are the
developers helpful with providing information and documentation?
- and many other factors too of course.

I think it should be a priority of all projects to try an ensure their
OpenHub metrics reflect the true health of their project ...
Well, OpenHub (BlackDuck) is a company.  If (in your opinion) their numbers
aren't providing a useful picture then it is arguable whether this should be put
at the door of all the unpaid open software developers, or alternatively at the
door of the company's staff and systems.

Regards,
activityworkshop

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Re: [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Bas,

We’ve been making Thumb drives for a few years now and DVDs before that.  We’ve 
been making the Thumb Drives by hand on our own, which is a bit of time and 
effort to complete.  We’ve been handling this for our own promotional purposes 
of OSGeo, etc and have only been building less than 75 at a time.

We’ve also installed some of the OSGeo-Live apps on a Raspberry Pi to good 
effect, but we haven’t tried a whole Live install on a PI yet, but all 
indications are that it would (mostly) work.  The Short answer is, we’ve figure 
out the mechanics of this, but the writing of the actual hardware would require 
some funding to complete as a repeatable process.

bobb



On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Bas Couwenberg 
<sebas...@xs4all.nl<mailto:sebas...@xs4all.nl>> wrote:

On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to consider
on this . . . what about . . .
having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
(portable) services.  For example,
 *   Generating the Thumb Drives
*   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage
locally for different events.  When we don’t end up using some of them
at a particular event, we end up re-writing them with the newer
version of OSGeo-Live for the next event.  Not really an economically
sound model.
 *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live.
Possibly for resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
 *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
 *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for
installation of software would go a long ways.
*   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll grant you,
but it would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
 *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
 *   Setting up a Docker . . .
Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as
well go for broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a
container of sorts for other projects to add in their own dedicated
versions of the same sort of devices/services.

Are you volunteering to implement any of the above?

These are good suggestions, but without people to do the work it will never 
materialize.

OSGeo-Live is understaffed as it is, see also:

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-April/012031.html

Kind Regards,

Bas
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Re: [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to consider on this 
. . . what about . . .

having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for providing the 
OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and (portable) services.  For 
example,


  *   Generating the Thumb Drives
 *   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage locally for 
different events.  When we don’t end up using some of them at a particular 
event, we end up re-writing them with the newer version of OSGeo-Live for the 
next event.  Not really an economically sound model.
  *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live. Possibly for 
resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
  *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
  *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for installation of 
software would go a long ways.
 *   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll grant you, but it 
would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
  *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
  *   Setting up a Docker . . .

Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as well go for 
broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a container of sorts for 
other projects to add in their own dedicated versions of the same sort of 
devices/services.

bobb


On Apr 18, 2017, at 8:43 AM, Suchith Anand 
> wrote:

I would like to also support the idea that it is convenient to have someone 
(ideally many) to do the "mass production" of the OSGeo Live USBs esp for  
training and education programs globally . Are there any SMEs doing this? If 
not, this is a great opportunity for the SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem to move in 
and expand.

Best wishes,

Suchith


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Re: [Live-demo] Where was thatspot to list out presentations of LIVE demo at?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Thanks, and added.

bobb


On Dec 6, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Cameron Shorter 
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On 7/12/2016 6:57 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
I have been accepted as a presenter at the WLIA conference in Feb for the 
LiveDemo.
Great.

Wasn’t there a spot to record these things somewhere?

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[Live-demo] Where was thatspot to list out presentations of LIVE demo at?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

I have been accepted as a presenter at the WLIA conference in Feb for the 
LiveDemo.

Wasn’t there a spot to record these things somewhere?

Thanks

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[Live-demo] Request for funding of OSGeo Live thumb drives.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

First, let me know if this is the wrong list to request from.

We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would like to include a OSGeo-Live 
thumb drive in each attendees goody bag.  So, please consider this an official 
request for funding of OSGeo Live Thumb Drives for the event.

This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event for all things Geo.  60 
confirmed presenters.  This will be a highly knowledgable audience and because 
of the varied subject matter it will be an excellent venue to get the word out 
about OSGeo and it’s mission, via the OSGeo Live project.  More info about the 
event can be seen here:

www.umgeocon.org

We’ve planned for 350 attendees.  We can make our own thumb drives, and/or pay 
to have them made ourselves.  We’ve handed these out in the past and will also 
include a getting started cheat sheet for each user to get them going with the 
least amount of effort.

I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on these.  Local suppliers are 
advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank drive.

Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for copying the OSGeo Live suite 
to each).

Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live presentation has been accepted at the 
event, and there will also be a (free) GeoMOOSE workshop.

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Re: [Live-demo] VM startup option request, add in Network checker.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Angelos,

I was thinking something like:

“No network has been configured”

Assuming an easy check of the Network is possible in an automated way.  Then 
maybe a link to the wifi docs at the end?

We did some testing from a guest laptop in secured wifi office setting.  Most 
new users will likely try something like this in their office for example, and 
it’s not obvious that the network needs to be managed upon first start up.  I 
agree that a DHCP setup is likely to work just fine out of the box.  Shooting 
at the lowest common denominator here unfortunately.

bobb





On Feb 17, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Angelos Tzotsos 
<gcpp.kal...@gmail.com<mailto:gcpp.kal...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks Jim for the clarification.

Sorry, I had the wrong impression that the bug report was about wired network :)
About wifi drivers missing, yes it is confusing for new users... would a popup 
message be enough to explain what to do?
Perhaps a sentence in the existing popup pointing to a wifi how-to in our 
documentation?

On 02/17/2016 09:41 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

All,

Making new thread.  Consolidated the thread here.

Sorry about that everyone.

bobb



Begin forwarded message:

From: Jim Klassen 
<jklas...@sharedgeo.org<mailto:jklas...@sharedgeo.org><mailto:jklas...@sharedgeo.org><mailto:jklas...@sharedgeo.org>>
Date: February 17, 2016 at 1:36:19 PM CST
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Live 9.5 desktop image candidate

This should probably be its own thread, but just to add some
clarification.

The no networking issue generally occurs when people boot the USB on
their computer (not in a VM) and they are expecting to use WiFi and
either the WiFi drivers aren't available or they don't realize they need
to select and authenticate to a network.

Note: Wired networks could theoretically have the similar issued but in
practice tend to just work (or just don't get used as often).

On 02/17/2016 10:33 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
Hi Bob,

It seems you experience a problem with the network configuration.
By default the live system network works fine for me behind a DHCP
server.

I think we could add some more details about how to configure
networking in our installation documents in case someone else faces
the same issue as you do.
I am not sure though about a popup. We already have a popup with
generic info to the user about where to get help and password file
location.

Best,
Angelos

On 02/15/2016 07:18 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All,

So, we’ve been handing out Live OSgeo thumb drives for a couple of
years now, and we’ve put a bit of work into explaining how to get up
and running with it to new users.  We hand out a getting started card
for example.

One item that we wanted to run past the list for, is an addition to
the VM start screen. The idea is to  add a Network checking process
to the interface, something that pops up a dialog to explain that
there is no network configured.

Most people who have experience with setting up computers know to
check something like this, even in a VM, but your average new user of
a VM, doesn’t know by default that they also need to configure the
network for the VM after is starts.

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Re: [Live-demo] Live 9.5 desktop image candidate

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

So, we’ve been handing out Live OSgeo thumb drives for a couple of years now, 
and we’ve put a bit of work into explaining how to get up and running with it 
to new users.  We hand out a getting started card for example.  

One item that we wanted to run past the list for, is an addition to the VM 
start screen. The idea is to  add a Network checking process to the interface, 
something that pops up a dialog to explain that there is no network configured.

Most people who have experience with setting up computers know to check 
something like this, even in a VM, but your average new user of a VM, doesn’t 
know by default that they also need to configure the network for the VM after 
is starts.

Thoughts?


> On Feb 13, 2016, at 11:48 PM, Cameron Shorter  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian,
> You've created another great image. I love it. I like the use of stars, and 
> wonder how it would look if you would change the green logo to a translucent 
> white shadow, probably also make the "OSGeo-Live 9.5" text more transparent 
> too. Or maybe even make the stars cluster into the OSGeo logo design.
> 
> Thanks, Cameron
> 
> On 14/02/2016 7:51 am, Brian M Hamlin wrote:
>> Hi List -
>> 
>>   candidate desktop image here:
>> 
>> http://download.osgeo.org/livedvd/9.5/desktop95_F.png
>> 
>> (F means "flat" not final .. feedback welcome)
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Re: [Live-demo] Upcoming 2016 FOSS4G events?

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Hi Cameron,

How would something like this relate to those events not OSGeo specific, but 
are being attended with the intent to promote OSGeo.  We’ve got some local GIS 
focused events that we’ll be attending and handing out OSGeo-Live USBs at.

Thanks

bobb

> On Oct 30, 2015, at 10:33 PM, Cameron Shorter  
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> I've started a draft schedule [1] for our upcoming OSGeo-Live 9.5 
> distribution but would like to know about upcoming FOSS4G events, ideally 
> with dates, such that we can include them in our calendar, and adjust our 
> schedule to make sure OSGeo-Live is printed in time for events.
> 
> We are also considering listing upcoming OSGeo-Live related events on our web 
> page, which should provide extra marketing for these events.
> 
> Could anyone thinking about setting up an event in 2016 with an OSGeo focus 
> please speak up.
> 
> Warm regards, Cameron
> 
> [1] 
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kO6zzmLFfprZGgp5x7Sjwi-EVN6NTGDR4KXvFVtNpR0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=0
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Re: [Live-demo] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

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All,

We’ve had success locally/regionally with preparing thumb drives with 
OSGeo-Live.  I’m not sure about running everything over the internet in a 
training scenario, but there may be some good reasons to put some of the 
services into a dedicated location for online use.

The idea of having a online version running gets the idea mill running, what if 
something like that could be used to pick and choose from for preparing a USB 
drive for training sessions?

bobb


> On Oct 14, 2015, at 3:44 AM, Suchith Anand  
> wrote:
> 
> Sure. I am ccing both the Education community and OSGeo live communities in 
> this, so we get more ideas/inputs to make this possible.
> 
> To give some background, we now have OSGeo Live being used not only for 
> running workshops in FOSS4G conferences but in so many training 
> programs/workshops/tutorials around the world. It is also a key resource for 
> geoeducation. So to make it more easy and scaleable for organising and 
> running  these training events globally, i would like to get inputs for 
> Venka's ideas (details in email below) 
> 
> May i request all interested to please give your ideas/inputs esp. on
> 
> 1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the 
> OSGeo-Live VM 
> 
> 2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
> 
> Looking forward to your inputs.
> 
> Suchith
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Cameron Shorter [cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:17 PM
> To: Suchith Anand; gcpp.kal...@gmail.com; p.baum...@jacobs-university.de; 
> venka.os...@gmail.com; Maria Antonia Brovelli
> Subject: Re: Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live 
> VM
> 
> Hi Suchith,
> Good idea. Would it be ok if we discuss on a public email list? Probably
> osgeo-live list, or education list.
> Part of the success would come from people collating content for such a
> course (which could be based on OSGeo-Live Quickstarts).
> 
> Warm regards, Cameron
> 
> 
> 
> On 14/10/2015 1:57 am, Suchith Anand wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> 
>> Myself, Maria and Peter are now at ESA event and had a chance to catch up on 
>> ideas for future to expand education globally.
>> 
>> 
>> I also remembered that few months back, we had an initial discussion on  the 
>> importance of having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM to help 
>> running workshops at conferences, training events etc. Venka made this idea 
>> in one of the Geo4All AB discussions on workshops at FOSS4G Bonn that i copy 
>> below
>> 
>> 
>> "Instead of buying 80-100 computers, it could be a worth considering to pay 
>> for a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM. Maybe one of our sponsoring 
>> companies could be approached to deploy such OSGeo Software as a Service 
>> solution.Such service could be made available to any event/institution 
>> wishing to run their own workshops anywhere place on earth with a good 
>> internet connection and thin client. For subsequent events or users could be 
>> charged to  cover cost of cloud hosting and paying for some developers to 
>> maintain the system.If the experiment is successful, we can think of 
>> replicating it in our globally through our local chapters."
>> 
>> 
>> Me, Maria and Peter in our discussions today, thought it is good time to 
>> start doing something about this and have this for scaling up our education 
>> and training needs globally. So it will be good to get ideas from key 
>> people, so i request you all to give your thoughts/ideas.
>> 
>> 
>> 1.Do you think it is important to have a cloud service that runs the 
>> OSGeo-Live VM.
>> 
>> 2.What are the steps that we need to take to make this possible
>> 
>> Looking forward to your inputs.
>> 
>> Suchith
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Re: [Live-demo] USB costs/reimbursment.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

This is why we like to load them ourselves.  We make sure they work with  
before handing them out.

IMO, these USBs are the single best method of promotions for OSGeo and the 
community of workers it supports.  Having something that someone can take with 
them and get running as a travelling demo is invaluable.

Just singing my praises for the product.  But also hoping that some sort of 
method can be devised where all or most of the costs are subsidized for the 
creation of the USBs. For handout at conferences.

Bobb



From: Daniel Kastl [mailto:dan...@georepublic.de]
Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2015 6:37 AM
To: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Cc: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul); t...@wildintellect.com; Cameron Shorter
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] USB costs/reimbursment.

Hi Cameron,

Probably not everyone requesting OSGeo-Live USBs / DVDs would expect to get 
them for free. I would even say, that they don't need to be for free.

I think for small events and paid or unpaid workshops it's just a lot of work 
to find a shop that prints USB sticks in a good quality for a reasonable price.
Also you would have to order quite a lot to get a discount. And it happens 
unfortunately too often that images on sticks are later not bootable or there 
are other issues.

So if OSGeo would be able to negotiate a good price with some USB stick dealer 
and maybe cover the shipping costs, that would probably be enough.
To be able to order OSGeo Live sticks that you hand out and you are sure they 
work as expected, that saves a lot of work.

Daniel



On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Cameron Shorter 
cameron.shor...@gmail.commailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob, Alex:
What still needs to be done is to set up a distribution process.

1. Define a criteria for why a group will / will not be allocated OSGeo-Live 
USBs / DVDs, and how many they can be allocated. Eg: a FOSS4G related event can 
have number of USBs = 10% of number of attendees, handed out from a booth. Paid 
workshops should cover the cost of USBs for attendees. ...

2. Someone needs to write up a budget, which is then approved by marketing 
committee / board.

3. Someone needs to select a printer, and sort out a payment method.

4. Someone needs to volunteer to administer requests. Ie, approve requests 
according to criteria, then send request to printer and have the USBs posted 
out.




On 3/03/2015 5:36 am, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All,

I would like to be able to request a 100 or so at a time, whenever we get low  
25-30 ??  Related to the building of the USB's we've found it very convenient 
to be able to re-write them between versions, which doesn't negate having that 
done already.  We always seem to have 10-20 of them from the previous release 
that we end up repurposing for the newer version.

For the groups information, we're able to get them for  $5.oo per, locally, 
for a 8gig USB, but we do the labeling (one side our logo, one side OSGeo's) 
and loading on our own.

Bobb



-Original Message-
From: Alex Mandel 
[mailto:tech_...@wildintellect.commailto:tech_...@wildintellect.com]
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:49 AM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul); 
live-demo@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] USB costs/reimbursment.

On 03/02/2015 09:37 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All,

We've been attending local conferences steadily  over the last couple of years, 
and we've been handing out OSGeo Live USBs at all of the conferences.

Usually the attendees at the Live DVD presentation each get one, and select 
visitors to our (SharedGeo) booth.

We've been handing out between 50 and 70 USBs per show based on number of 
attendees.

Question, we've been footing the bill up till now on these, but the numbers 
we're needing to bring along to conferences are starting to rise.

So. I've been seeing other reimbursements for USBs and I think we've been going 
at it long enough to ask for some help on costs.  We would like to continue to 
offer these USBs, and have a good process in place to do the copy ourselves; 
we've even set things up to recopy when a new version comes out with any of the 
USBs we have on hand at the time soas not to be handing out stale material.

With the recent discssions I've been seeing, there still isn't a cast in stone 
method of providing support for the USBs as a promotional item for OSGeo (is 
there?).

If the USbs could be paid for, we would be in much better shape, and we would 
still go the route of generating the USBs on our own, at least for the next few 
forseeable versions of OSGeo-live that will be released.

Has a central vendor process been defined for purchase of the USBs?  We buy 
them at retail locally, and I would imagine that they could be purchased 
cheaper in volume.

Anyway, just letting the community know that we're on the job as far as 
promotions go.

Bobb

We have a source for them with data preloaded at under $6 each (including 
printed logos). There is discussions

[Live-demo] USB costs/reimbursment.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

We've been attending local conferences steadily  over the last couple of years, 
and we've been handing out OSGeo Live USBs at all of the conferences.

Usually the attendees at the Live DVD presentation each get one, and select 
visitors to our (SharedGeo) booth.

We've been handing out between 50 and 70 USBs per show based on number of 
attendees.

Question, we've been footing the bill up till now on these, but the numbers 
we're needing to bring along to conferences are starting to rise.

So. I've been seeing other reimbursements for USBs and I think we've been going 
at it long enough to ask for some help on costs.  We would like to continue to 
offer these USBs, and have a good process in place to do the copy ourselves; 
we've even set things up to recopy when a new version comes out with any of the 
USBs we have on hand at the time soas not to be handing out stale material.

With the recent discssions I've been seeing, there still isn't a cast in stone 
method of providing support for the USBs as a promotional item for OSGeo (is 
there?).

If the USbs could be paid for, we would be in much better shape, and we would 
still go the route of generating the USBs on our own, at least for the next few 
forseeable versions of OSGeo-live that will be released.

Has a central vendor process been defined for purchase of the USBs?  We buy 
them at retail locally, and I would imagine that they could be purchased 
cheaper in volume.

Anyway, just letting the community know that we're on the job as far as 
promotions go.

Bobb




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Re: [Live-demo] USB costs/reimbursment.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I would like to be able to request a 100 or so at a time, whenever we get low  
25-30 ??  Related to the building of the USB's we've found it very convenient 
to be able to re-write them between versions, which doesn't negate having that 
done already.  We always seem to have 10-20 of them from the previous release 
that we end up repurposing for the newer version.

For the groups information, we're able to get them for  $5.oo per, locally, 
for a 8gig USB, but we do the labeling (one side our logo, one side OSGeo's) 
and loading on our own.

Bobb



-Original Message-
From: Alex Mandel [mailto:tech_...@wildintellect.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2015 11:49 AM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul); live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] USB costs/reimbursment.

On 03/02/2015 09:37 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
 All,
 
 We've been attending local conferences steadily  over the last couple of 
 years, and we've been handing out OSGeo Live USBs at all of the conferences.
 
 Usually the attendees at the Live DVD presentation each get one, and select 
 visitors to our (SharedGeo) booth.
 
 We've been handing out between 50 and 70 USBs per show based on number of 
 attendees.
 
 Question, we've been footing the bill up till now on these, but the numbers 
 we're needing to bring along to conferences are starting to rise.
 
 So. I've been seeing other reimbursements for USBs and I think we've been 
 going at it long enough to ask for some help on costs.  We would like to 
 continue to offer these USBs, and have a good process in place to do the copy 
 ourselves; we've even set things up to recopy when a new version comes out 
 with any of the USBs we have on hand at the time soas not to be handing out 
 stale material.
 
 With the recent discssions I've been seeing, there still isn't a cast in 
 stone method of providing support for the USBs as a promotional item for 
 OSGeo (is there?).
 
 If the USbs could be paid for, we would be in much better shape, and we would 
 still go the route of generating the USBs on our own, at least for the next 
 few forseeable versions of OSGeo-live that will be released.
 
 Has a central vendor process been defined for purchase of the USBs?  We buy 
 them at retail locally, and I would imagine that they could be purchased 
 cheaper in volume.
 
 Anyway, just letting the community know that we're on the job as far as 
 promotions go.
 
 Bobb
 
 

We have a source for them with data preloaded at under $6 each (including 
printed logos). There is discussions to get OSGeo budget approval (Outreach and 
Marketing Committee) to make a bulk purchase and then send packages of various 
amounts to groups like yours that request them. I'm not sure what else needs to 
happen to get the approval to make the orders, Cameron do you know?

Thanks,
Alex


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Re: [Live-demo] Retire MapTiler from OSGeo-Live

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I have a different take on all of this project naming.  I've always been under 
the belief that if you put something out as open source, then it's out there 
name and all, and that's it (regardless of what the legalese might suggest).  
It just seems like this is the courteous way to contribute to the community.  
While there are other interpretations of trademarking, I always thought of it 
as a way of keeping control of the name so others couldn't hijack it for other 
projects, and not so I had exclusive right to do so at a time of my choosing.  
I don't think that just because it's a single person or a group that it should 
be permissible.  It needs to be one standard for all.  Maybe this is used as a 
lesson learned in this situation, but I would hate to have to put yet more text 
into place to describe this type of thing as an incubation step.

Looking at this from the community perspective it would be more painful for the 
community to rebrand, and with few if any interested in this prospect I don't 
see that the community should be tasked with the process.  If someone comes 
forward to do it, well, that's fine.  The short of this is that if it works, 
and it's relatively painless for the OSGeo-Live to keep it on the distribution, 
then leave it there.  Brand it as still working but end of life or something.  
It does sound like there is still some use of the package, and the emphasis 
from  OSGeo seems to be put on actively developed projects, vs just plain old 
working, it seems like the working aspect should play into things more.

Removing it from service seems wrong while it still works, even without a 
dedicated development group.  There is also the question of older versions (and 
users) on older distros of Live-dvd.  Since I assume these are free for use 
still, than the same goes for the current version on OSGeo Live.  If at some 
point there is renewed desire to develop then the question of naming could be 
revisited, but I still think once it's out there in the wild it's out there in 
the wild, and that's it.

Ok, said my piece.  :c)

Bobb


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From: live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 
[mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Johan Van de Wauw
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 3:46 AM
To: live-demo
Cc: Klokan Petr Přidal
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Retire MapTiler from OSGeo-Live

Hi all,

First of all I would like to thank Petr for his work on Maptiler. He has 
actually spent a lot of unpaid time to develop a tool which is useful for many 
users.
Earning a living from open-source is hard - as most people who have tried will 
be able to tell you.

Second I would like to point out that a project that has many users and little 
contributors is not necessarily unsuccessful.  If your tool is working well, it 
may not scratch a developers itch[1].

Anyway, it seems that by retiring from OsGeo live you did hit many developers 
itch, so it seems this may actually be a rebirth of the project.

I think that the request of Petr is fair: the code remains free (which it 
should, because there can be many derived works), but he just requests not to 
use the name and logo. This leaves room for other developers to jump in and 
create a new version. Yesterday on IRC, I proposed the name IceTiler as an 
alternative, based on the rebranding done by debian for many mozilla projects 
[2]. Other suggestions are welcome :-)

Taking all into account I'm +1 on removing this project from OsGeo live in the 
current form, but I think we could have IceTiler in a next release if there 
is sufficient interest.

Kind Regards,
Johan

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cathedral_and_the_Bazaar
[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_by_the_Debian_project
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[Live-demo] wasn't there a wiki location to add upcoming presentation info to somewhere?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I have a local GIS gathering that I'm presenting at in a couple of weeks.  I 
seem to recall there being a spot I could post this fact to, but danged if I 
can find it right now (while I'm thinking of it).

Thanks

Bobb


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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] How does your project look on the OSGeoLive metrics page?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Hmm, I like these metrics.

I wonder, is there a way to include this either as a element of the 
presentation or as a remote link, for the OSGeo-Live online (reveal.js) 
presenation?

Bobb





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From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] 
On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 2:17 PM
To: live-demo; OSGeo Discussions
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] How does your project look on the OSGeoLive metrics 
page?

Hi OSGeo projects,

OSGeo-Live has a cool page which aggregates OpenHUB metrics about each project, 
giving readers an insight into the maturity of each project.
http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/metrics.html

 From this page, you can get an indication of which projects are actively being 
developed.

Unfortunately, there are some projects which have misleading information (maybe 
due to repositories moving), or no information, which we are helping projects 
can help rectify.

If your project's statistics seems inaccurate, then click on the Project's 
heading in the metrics page to go to the OpenHUB page. Then find the 
Settings, and update what is missing (such as a new code repository).

If your project is missing, then please either locate or add it in OpenHUB and 
tell us where it is so that we can add it to the OSGeo-Live metrics page.

If you wish to see this information in the next OSGeo-Live release, then please 
get it updated within the next few days, by Friday 13 February at the latest.

--
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Re: [Live-demo] Live Demo presentation earlier this week.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

* As a presenter not knowing the details about each and every projects 
capabilities, I would have liked to have had a one-line description on each 
project slide about its capabilities.  I did see in the code something called 
presentation notes that looked to contain some of this type of information, but 
I never did figure out how to display this during the presentation, probably 
something easy to do, though, that I just don't know about.
On the first slide, there is a note press s for slide notes, which brings up 
a second browser page of notes. The idea is to have a 2nd computer running with 
the notes (like powerpoint).
Maybe we should work out how someone can print the notes on paper.

[] I knew it was going to be something stupidly easy . . .!!!  Although, I was 
thinking more about a descriptive line about the package/project, right on the 
slide.  I don't tend to use detailed notes myself, a couple of keywords will 
work as a prompt for me.

Bobb









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[Live-demo] Live Demo presentation earlier this week.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,



Just a short note to the list about a Presentation I did this past Tues at the 
Illinois State GIS Association Annual Conference in Chicago.



The presentation went over very well.  There were a number of walkup folks with 
questions afterwards.  We also handed out 23 USBs with the Live Demo Installed 
to folks interested in trying it out.



The Open Source presence at this conference was very light and mention of Open 
Source, while it existed was minimal.  Our group presented two other 
presentations related to Open Source that were also very well attended as well.



Some Notes:



*  This was the first time I used the REAVEL.JS presentation, it worked 
rather well, and I used this as tool to hook the audiences' attention early on 
by describing how it worked and how they could start using it themselves.

*  A few of the project Icons on the pages were bad links, I had 
planned on going in and fixing them beforehand, but never ended up with time to 
do it.  I did look at the code and it looks like it might have been generated 
with some sort of script.  Maybe re-running it is in order.

*  There were a few of the project Icons that displayed larger than 
others, and pushed some of the other Icons off screen somewhat.

*  As a presenter not knowing the details about each and every projects 
capabilities, I would have liked to have had a one-line description on each 
project slide about its capabilities.  I did see in the code something called 
presentation notes that looked to contain some of this type of information, but 
I never did figure out how to display this during the presentation, probably 
something easy to do, though, that I just don't know about.



Thanks to all those that put the presentation together, it worked very well for 
this presentation, and I'm sure other in the future.



Thoughts on the future:

*  I have a couple of other conferences coming up locally that I may 
decide to present at, I may be able to put some time into fixing some of the 
notes items about before then.

*  I wondered about setting up more of a branding mechanism in the 
presentation with regard to the background, etc.  Might be nice to package the 
reveal.js package with simple instructions on how a sponsoring organization 
might insert their own logo into the presentation easily, I had to go into the 
code to figure it out for example.

*  Ok, this one might be better mentioned after I have created one, but 
I wonder about setting one or two of these reveal presentation up for each 
project to replace the Quickstarts and Overviews for each project, even going 
so far as to say that they need to be in place by some point in the future.



Thanks again for the hard work in setting this up.



Bobb




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[Live-demo] FW: [Incubator] Incubating OSGeo-Live as an OSGeo project

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Forgot to include the list . . . 

Bobb


-Original Message-
From: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 4:09 PM
To: 'Cameron Shorter'
Subject: RE: [Incubator] Incubating OSGeo-Live as an OSGeo project

All,

Is this going to require segmenting off or reclassifying some projects as 
non-osgeo projects, or not in incubation?  There are some projects on OSGELive 
that are not in the OSGEO proper listings, etc.  It might lead to some 
confusion about whether a project is really a OSGeo project or not the 
OSGeoLive project is touted as an OSGeo Incubated project.

Up until now, the case has been to include all projects with an interest in 
being included.  Correct?


Bobb


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[mailto:incubator-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:56 PM
To: live-demo; incuba...@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [Incubator] Incubating OSGeo-Live as an OSGeo project

At our OSGeo-Live weekly meeting today, it was proposed that we should take 
OSGeo-Live through the OSGeo Incubation process, effectively making OSGeo-Live 
an official OSGeo project.

As it currently stands, we believe OSGeo-Live is in pretty good shape, and 
incubating should be reasonably straight forward (although incubating 
traditionally takes quite a bit longer than people expect).

So to the OSGeo community:
Are there any comments for or against incubating OSGeo-Live?
Do we have volunteers willing to help out with the incubation process. 
Typically, the most time consuming part of incubation is auditing the license 
of code to ensure it complies with stated Open Source licenses.

For the OSGeo Incubation committee,
Is there someone willing to step forward and mentor us through incubation. I 
would volunteer myself, but I'm planning to be involved in incubating 
OSGeo-Live myself.

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[Live-demo] Giving presentation locally on OSGeo Live.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I'm doing a presentation (semi-) locally on OSGeoLive.

Any thoughts from folks on anything new for presentation.

I was going to start from the OSGeo Live presentation (reveal.js thingy . . .) 
and work from there.  I have 45 Min. to fill.  I've tiven the same presentation 
a couple of versions back, just wondering about any big new things to keep in 
mind.

Thanks

Bobb



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Re: [Live-demo] Giving presentation locally on OSGeo Live.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Hi Alex,

The audience is fairly general and across the board.  It's for the Illinois GIS 
Association Annual Conference in two weeks.  It's going to be the first time 
I've attended too.

Bobb



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Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:05 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul); live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Giving presentation locally on OSGeo Live.

On 10/17/2014 11:07 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
 All,
 
 I'm doing a presentation (semi-) locally on OSGeoLive.
 
 Any thoughts from folks on anything new for presentation.
 
 I was going to start from the OSGeo Live presentation (reveal.js thingy . . 
 .) and work from there.  I have 45 Min. to fill.  I've tiven the same 
 presentation a couple of versions back, just wondering about any big new 
 things to keep in mind.
 
 Thanks
 
 Bobb
 
 


Depends on your audience, I would customize to highlight the overall then cover 
some example use cases relevant to your group.

Who is the talk for?

Thanks,
Alex

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Re: [Live-demo] Retire MapTiler?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I think that unless a package/project is getting in the way of something more 
important, lack of custodian, space on the LiveDVD, etc. that should be 
perpetuated indefinitely.  I also believe it wise to add in a note or README to 
the effect that the version being viewed was last updated on SOME-DATE, with 
some sort of indication that the project has matured and/or has been 
dead-lined.  Including some links to alternate projects might even be 
appropriate.

Should there possibly be a CLASS of projects on the DVD that has been deemed 
mature/end-of-life, but still available?

I have to admit, that I have a hard time throwing things away myself.  So my 
remarks should be taken with a grain of salt.

Lastly, I believe having a history of projects around over the long term has 
some value to it.  Even if the project is removed from the DVD I think it wise 
to keep it available as long as possible, regardless of the support structure, 
as long as it doesn't impede future work.

Bobb



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[mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Monday, July 22, 2013 7:35 PM
To: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Cc: Klokan Petr Pridal
Subject: [Live-demo] Retire MapTiler?

I'd like to hear thoughts on whether we should be retiring MapTiler.

My thoughts are that we should be helping new users find established Open 
Source projects, which typically are projects which have a strong community 
behind them.
I note that MapTiler hasn't changed version number since OSGeo-Live 3.0, and is 
still reported as a beta status.

I also note from the Ohloh metrics, there seems to be very little
development:
http://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html

I suspect that users might be moving to another project instead? Eg: 
GeoWebCache?

On 23/07/2013 8:28 AM, OSGeo wrote:
 #1167: Retire MapTiler
 --+---
 --+--
   Reporter:  camerons  |   Owner:  live-demo@…
   Type:  task  |  Status:  new
   Priority:  major |   Milestone:  OSGeoLive7.0
 Component:  LiveDVD   |Keywords:  maptiler
 --+---
 --+--
   As per request from Klokan Petr Pridal, the MapTiler point of contact, we
   should retire MapTiler.

   Of note, MapTiler has remained at version 1.0beta2 for a few years now
   (since OSGeo-Live 3.0), which suggests a diminishing open source community
   behind the project.

   Todo:
   * Update maptiler Project Overview and Quickstart to retired status in
   main docs.

   * comment out install_maptiler.sh from main.sh installers

   * comment out maptiler from metrics.rst docs

On 23/07/2013 9:03 AM, OSGeo wrote:
 #1167: Retire MapTiler


 Comment(by hamish):

   I find the MapTiler program to be still useful and relevant, and would by
   willing to maintain it on the live dvd on an ongoing basis. (it's tiny and
   zero maintenance anyway so I don't mind much)

   Since it just works, it doesn't matter that there hasn't been a new
   version in ages.
   It just means it is mature; the GDAL backend it uses regularly updated so
   it gets updates that way.


   regards,
   Hamish



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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] OSGeo Flier

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I did a little book print out of the Overviews from the LiveDVD for a local 
conference.  It was looked at a couple of times, but I think a 8.5x11 sheet for 
each project would be a better bet for printing out, one for each project.  
I've done Tri-folds in the past for GeoMoose for example.

I would like to suggest something similar as a resource for using at 
Conferences.

Having the software options all laid out and grouped by product type would go a 
long ways on the sale front.

bobb



From: marketing-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [marketing-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on 
behalf of Cameron Shorter [cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 5:36 PM
To: Daniel Morissette
Cc: OSGeo Marketing; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Marketing] OSGeo Flier

Daniel,
I'm splitting this email thread into 2, in order to address your
comments separately.

First:
You have made a very valid suggestion that the Marketing Committee
provide a couple of simple fliers.
I believe we have the basis for most, if not all of this, but as noted,
it is hard to find.
I think the action out of this is for the marketing committee to
identify our key marketing fliers (and posters, and video loops, etc)
which we have available, and in particular, ensure it is up to date.
This should then all be referenced from one visible spot.

This will make it easy for LOCs to print and distribute the material.

On 11/04/2013 11:16 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
 Hi Cameron, all,

 I'll answer with two different hats:

 1- As a OSGeo community member who is also the lead of a local chapter:

 My experience from trying to organize OSGeo's presence at events in
 the past is that DVDs/USBs/Stickers might be nice to give away, but to
 make a real impact, you'd need a couple of simple flyers that explain
 efficiently what OSGeo is about, what it does, and why visitors should
 care about it. This was a blocker for us (the Quebec chapter) and
 would be even more important than DVDs/USBs/Stickers and local groups
 don't have the time/resource/knowledge to prepare that.

 If this material already exists then great, let's promote it and not
 focus solely on the DVDs. It's easy to send out a PDF to organizers
 that they can print locally at very low cost. As an active member of
 OSGeo I was not able to find anything relevant last time I checked, so
 we ended up abandoning our free OSGeo booth due to lack of contents
 (and as the organizer of the rest of the event I didn't have time to
 work on that). If the material had existed in English we could have
 translated it, but I could not even find a relevant English flyer.

 All this to say that personally I am questioning whether it is really
 worth sending out DVDs/USBs/Stickers to 50 - 100 events around the
 world when we are lacking a simple PDF in multiple languages that
 local people could print to hand out at a booth.

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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] Proposal: OSGeo home page to link to OSGeo-Live Project Overviews

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Cameron,

I was thinking more along the lines of a for information item, that showed the 
last edit of the particular overview.  Very similar to a version of overview I 
guess.  Based on the conversation here, it sounded like a version could be used 
on more than one LiveDVD, without being changed between the versions.  So the 
user would know that they are looking at an older version.

I suppose the review process could be considered a version of sorts, but unless 
the reviewer is actually a part of the project, it seems like it might be good 
to know when the last edit was made from a party inside of the project circle.

Bobb



From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 5:37 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: OSGeo Marketing; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Marketing] [Live-demo] Proposal: OSGeo home page to link to 
OSGeo-Live Project Overviews

On 5/04/2013 1:34 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

Should the Overviews each have a ”last edited” date attached to them (that can 
be seen in the overview)?  Might be easier to update things between versions of 
Live DVDs.

Bob, we ensure that ALL OSGeo-Live project overviews are up to date at the time 
of each OSGeo-Live release.
We track this by keeping track of the latest version of software and docs via 
our spreadsheets and extracted svn versions.



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Re: [Live-demo] Proposal: OSGeo home page to link to OSGeo-Live Project Overviews

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Hamish,

Interesting thought occurred to me as I read your post related to Wikipedia.

Does it make any sense to feed the Wikipedia pages with a summary of the 
projects in the OSGeo Live overviews, or is this a self-defeating option, since 
you then are competing for hits?  My first thoughts are that this would 
increase cross linking and possibly direct more potential user to OSGeo.

Bobb


  
   I propose that instead the list should link to the OSGeo Live
  Project
   Overviews, such as:
   http://live.osgeo.org/en/overview/deegree_overview.html
  
  I don't feel strongly one way or the other about it, just to note
  that in the past months I've been pointing to the live.osgeo.org
  overview pages when mentioning a project to someone, in the same
  way that one might link to wikipedia when describing some thing
  or another. I think the live dvd overview pages fill that role
  quite nicely, and as Cameron mentioned they're kept reasonably up
  to date.
  


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Re: [Live-demo] [Marketing] Proposal: OSGeo home page to link to OSGeo-Live Project Overviews

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

Should the Overviews each have a ”last edited” date attached to them (that can 
be seen in the overview)?  Might be easier to update things between versions of 
Live DVDs.

Bobb

.


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[mailto:marketing-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jody Garnett
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 8:21 AM
To: Cameron Shorter
Cc: OSGeo Marketing; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org; Hamish; Web committee 
discussions
Subject: Re: [Marketing] [Live-demo] Proposal: OSGeo home page to link to 
OSGeo-Live Project Overviews

I had intended to reply to Hamish - but I will follow the discussion here.

Re Which overviews are out of date:
The GeoTools descriptionhttp://www.osgeo.org/geotools is terribly out of date 
neither of the two renderers described exist anymore, the project is no longer 
associated with GeoAPI and has changed its focus from only implementing OGC 
standards.

The more recent 
descriptionshttp://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/geotools.html (and on 
osgeo-livehttp://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/overview/geotools_overview.html)
 are much improved.
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[Live-demo] Funding of LiveDVD for conferences.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

So, where do requests for funding go to for LiveDVD creation for conferences?  
I've just been tapped to research this aspect for the FOSS4GNA conference in 
Minneapolis this spring?

Also, is there a chance that the 8GB USB Stick version of things might be in 
place sometime soon, or should I forget about that entirely for this event.

Thanks

Bobb


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Re: [Live-demo] Funding of LiveDVD/USB for conferences.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Alex,

I have a local supplier already identified, and they are willing to test before 
production on DVD/USB creation.

Ok, so much for getting any more funds out of the OSGEO side, but I'll copy the 
marketing list anyway and see what happens.

Thanks for the pointer to the Marketing list.

Bobb


  -Original Message-
  From: live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:live-demo-
  boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Alex Mandel
  Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 11:12 AM
  To: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
  Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Funding of LiveDVD for conferences.
  
  On 01/30/2013 08:37 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
   All,
  
   So, where do requests for funding go to for LiveDVD creation
  for conferences?  I've just been tapped to research this aspect
  for the FOSS4GNA conference in Minneapolis this spring?
  
   Also, is there a chance that the 8GB USB Stick version of
  things might be in place sometime soon, or should I forget about
  that entirely for this event.
  
   Thanks
  
   Bobb
  
  
  
  The USB stick version is the same ISO as the DVD just made into a
  bootable usb. We have a schedule to finish 6.5 by Mid February
  well in time for Foss4gNA. The trickiest part about usb sticks is
  finding a vendor in the US who can actually make them bootable -
  we failed in Denver and I spent the week (with volunteers) re-
  doing all of them.
  I can provide you with the companies we have used in the past for
  DVDs and USBs.
  
  OSGeo does not usually pay for DVDs or USB sticks for
  conferences, especially not a FOSS4G where it ought to come from
  the admission fee.
  Marketing committee is the place to discuss.
  
  Thanks,
  Alex
  
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[Live-demo] How big does a USG need to be to set up the LiveDVD on it?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I know this has been one here before, but how big is the DVD?  What size of USB 
is needed for it's current incarnation?

Thanks

Bobb



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Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I've asked this question in the past, with mixed results, but what might be the 
best way of describing a project that crosses boundaries (as described in this 
thread)?  Where they could fit into more than one box.  I've always wondered 
why there wasn't a matrix of capabilities associated with the projects under 
the OSGeo umbrella.

Bobb



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[mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:25 PM
To: Cameron Shorter
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects


On 9 December 2012 19:24, Cameron Shorter 
cameron.shor...@gmail.commailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote:
As I'm reviewing the OSGeo-Live overview contents [1], I think that we should 
be recategorising some of the projects. Here are my suggestions

Rasdaman - Move from Databases to Web Services (I understand it is best 
described as a WCS)

GDAL - Move from Spatial Tools to Geospatial Libraries

OSSIM - Move from Desktop to Spatial Tools

Geopublisher  AtlasStyler - Move from Desktop to a new Prior OSGeoLive 
Projects section

Any objections or other suggestions?

[1] http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/overview/overview.html

 Some thoughts:

1. Browser Clients doesn't seem a very informative or accurate description of 
the projects listed, several of which have server-side components. Web Mapping 
and GIS might be better. Or something else.

2. Databases might be better as Spatial Data Storage and Management. I'd 
take pgRouting off that category.

3. I'd take everything after SAGA (ie OSSIM onwards) off the Desktop GIS 
category, so that this category is purely general purpose GIS packages. OSSIM, 
Geopublisher, AtlasStyler, osgEarth, and MB-System are not 'Desktop GIS' as 
understood by your average GIS person...

4. Create a new category of specialised ('vertical'?) applications, containing 
such as: zyGrib, OpenCPN, MB-System and possibly Ushahidi and Sahana Eden.

5. Put pgRouting and the remaining GPS-related packages into a Tracking and 
Routing category.

6. Think maybe a categorical index is a bit simplistic and maybe we should just 
tag everything instead.

7. Wonder why OSSIM and OTB are in different categories and think it's getting 
late I should just go to bed instead.

Barry



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Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

I was thinking that's one column of a bigger matrix, that also indicates things 
like Software written in, Components, WebClient Web Service, Database access, 
SHP reading, etc., other Packages used, GDAL, MapServer, OpenLayers, etc.

Stuff like that.

Bobb



From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 1:25 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: Barry Rowlingson; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects

Bob,
I'd like to see a table developed for the standards page, listing projects 
against the specific standards their support.

On 12/12/12 03:41, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
All,

I've asked this question in the past, with mixed results, but what might be the 
best way of describing a project that crosses boundaries (as described in this 
thread)?  Where they could fit into more than one box.  I've always wondered 
why there wasn't a matrix of capabilities associated with the projects under 
the OSGeo umbrella.

Bobb



From: 
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[mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 4:25 PM
To: Cameron Shorter
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Re-categorising OSGeo-Live projects


On 9 December 2012 19:24, Cameron Shorter 
cameron.shor...@gmail.commailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com wrote:
As I'm reviewing the OSGeo-Live overview contents [1], I think that we should 
be recategorising some of the projects. Here are my suggestions

Rasdaman - Move from Databases to Web Services (I understand it is best 
described as a WCS)

GDAL - Move from Spatial Tools to Geospatial Libraries

OSSIM - Move from Desktop to Spatial Tools

Geopublisher  AtlasStyler - Move from Desktop to a new Prior OSGeoLive 
Projects section

Any objections or other suggestions?

[1] http://adhoc.osgeo.osuosl.org/livedvd/docs/en/overview/overview.html

 Some thoughts:

1. Browser Clients doesn't seem a very informative or accurate description of 
the projects listed, several of which have server-side components. Web Mapping 
and GIS might be better. Or something else.

2. Databases might be better as Spatial Data Storage and Management. I'd 
take pgRouting off that category.

3. I'd take everything after SAGA (ie OSSIM onwards) off the Desktop GIS 
category, so that this category is purely general purpose GIS packages. OSSIM, 
Geopublisher, AtlasStyler, osgEarth, and MB-System are not 'Desktop GIS' as 
understood by your average GIS person...

4. Create a new category of specialised ('vertical'?) applications, containing 
such as: zyGrib, OpenCPN, MB-System and possibly Ushahidi and Sahana Eden.

5. Put pgRouting and the remaining GPS-related packages into a Tracking and 
Routing category.

6. Think maybe a categorical index is a bit simplistic and maybe we should just 
tag everything instead.

7. Wonder why OSSIM and OTB are in different categories and think it's getting 
late I should just go to bed instead.

Barry







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Re: [Live-demo] Replacing MapServer/MapCache/TinyOWS with MapServer Suite on OSGeo-Live?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I think they should be thought of as two different things, the MapServer Suite 
and MapServer (plus each of the other things).

I tend to use MapServer more as a services LIB in a non-dependent way, as in no 
other dependencies required.  I (as well as others) have been using it this way 
for years I would imagine.

The MapServer Suite I envision as a way to package a demonstration product.  
I'm looking at all of this from the end user side of things of course, and not 
from the source side, where combining things like docs, packaging and such is 
more of an enticing option.  If the code base is going to somehow merge between 
these, then this combining of docs and such would make much more sense.  But if 
the separate project code bases are still separated and data travels between 
packages, in a pipeline fashion for example, then the pieces should remain 
separate.

If there are going to be lone MapServer downloads still available, then I think 
the associated docs and packaging aspects would need to remain separate as 
well.  I could however see a way to merge these types of things in some sort of 
on demand system, where certain components are chosen for install and only 
those docs and package instructions are merged and only in an on demand 
fashion.  Using the same Styling and layout aspects would make much more sense 
in the near term to set up as well (if they aren't already).

Bobb




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  boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
  Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 4:38 PM
  To: Lime, Steve D (DNR)
  Cc: Steve Lime; live-demo@lists.osgeo.org; Alan Boudreault
  Subject: [Live-demo] Replacing MapServer/MapCache/TinyOWS with
  MapServer Suite on OSGeo-Live?
  
  On 10/11/2012 7:05 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:
  
   Steve and others,
  
   It is great to hear about MapServer Suite. I think it will be
  of great
   interest to OSGeo-Live users.
   I expect that the best way to describe these technologies to
  new users
   would be to merge descriptions about all three projects into
  one
   MapServer Suite Project Overview and Quickstart.
  
  Steve, Alan, Johan, Pirmin, Olivier,
  I haven't heard back on this question. I'm very keen to hear the
  thoughts of each of you (and any others in these communities with
  an opinion).
  Would there be a downside to merging Mapserver Suite
  documentation?
  
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Re: [Live-demo] Rethinking osgeo-live

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All, 

I've been trying to come up with a similar approach to things, but looking at 
it from the product side of things.  Working more towards a business angle.  
This pre-packaging seems like s good spot in a distribituion pipline to 
monetize things for support of further package development.

Bobb



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  boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson
  Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 5:08 PM
  To: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
  Subject: [Live-demo] Rethinking osgeo-live
  
  I've not really thought this through, but I'll put it out there
  for discussion...
  
  Would the effort spent on creating the osgeo-live disc be better
  spent creating a 'portable' set of compiled applications, for
  Linux, Mac, and Windows platforms?
  
  The advantage would be that a user wanting to try something out
  would just copy the bits they wanted to their PC, and use their
  existing operating system. An installer would just copy what the
  user wanted and handle dependencies (much like osgeo4w, but
  multi-platform).
  
  It would also be more likely to be usable on machines with a
  locked-down boot sequence. Our central IT people supply desktops
  with passworded BIOS settings and HD-before-DVD boot sequence.
  They also physically lock the cases. Killjoys.
  
  There would also be no need for admin privileges - something that
  blights system package management systems like apt and rpm.
  
  Is it also true that in the very near future PCs will have some
  kind of trusted boot system? So that alternate operating systems
  would require signing (or I read something about a signed mini-
  bootloader being developed to possibly get round this...). Will
  that effect live DVD boots? That could be a pain...
  
  The disadvantages:
  
   Loss of total control - we wouldn't know exactly what OS the
  programs were going onto, so documentation might look wrong.
  
   Binary compatibility - how can you ensure your binaries work
  with assorted Linux versions? That might be the show-stopper
  here, although I'm pretty sure I've recently installed Linux
  software from one-size-fits-all binaries. Would the only
  compatibility be to do with libc and the kernel? I envisage
  practically everything being on there, including things like the
  Qt library and a JVM.
  
   There would be a need to re-tool all the osgeo-live development
  chain, and write an installer.
  
   There would be three versions - Linux, Windows, Mac (or four if
  anyone wants to compile for OpenSolaris...)
  
  I just think there's greater longevity and value in the
  distribution of a collection of ready-to-run, run-anywhere
  packages than a live boot disk these days.
  
  Thoughts?
  
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Re: [Live-demo] poster template

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Margherita(?),

I just did up a version of the presentation ODP file in Wide (1080p) format for 
use at  a local conference booth display.  I appended some screenshots of 
projects using OSGeo software, mostly local projects, so the file got big, 
around 66mg.  I need to put it up somewhere yet though, I could place somewhere 
temporarily if you need to get at it, just email me back.

There is a spot on OSGeo servers somewhere, I just need to look back through my 
Email to find it.

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[mailto:live-demo-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Margherita Di Leo
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:14 AM
To: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [Live-demo] poster template

Hi all,

I will be presenting the OSGeo live by a poster presentation, and i was 
wondering if a poster template is already available or I should make it from 
scratch, or maybe i should start from the presentation template and modify it.

Thanks,

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Re: [Live-demo] poster template

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Margherita,

Yup that looks like it's the place.  I'm not sure that I should upload what I 
have to there though, as it's a bit different than what's there now.

I'll email link directly . . .

Bobb



From: Margherita Di Leo [mailto:direg...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 10:55 AM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] poster template

Bob,

Thank you for answering,
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.usmailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote:
Margherita(?),

I just did up a version of the presentation ODP file in Wide (1080p) format for 
use at  a local conference booth display.  I appended some screenshots of 
projects using OSGeo software, mostly local projects, so the file got big, 
around 66mg.  I need to put it up somewhere yet though, I could place somewhere 
temporarily if you need to get at it, just email me back.

If you are willing to share it, it would be great, thanks.

There is a spot on OSGeo servers somewhere, I just need to look back through my 
Email to find it.

Maybe you mean 
http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/promo/trunk/en/presentation/ ?

Thanks and regards,

Margherita

Bobb



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To: live-demo@lists.osgeo.orgmailto:live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: [Live-demo] poster template

Hi all,

I will be presenting the OSGeo live by a poster presentation, and i was 
wondering if a poster template is already available or I should make it from 
scratch, or maybe i should start from the presentation template and modify it.

Thanks,

--
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Postdoctoral Researcher
European Commission - DG JRC
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Tel. +39 0332 78 3600tel:%2B39%200332%2078%203600
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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates for OSGeo projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

List is getting smaller . . .

Just need dates for these projects now:


*  Geomajas

*  MapFish

*  ZOO-Project

*  Opticks

*  FDO

*  Metacrs

Edits are ending up here: 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Source_GIS_History#Timeline


Bobb


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On Behalf Of Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:19 PM
Cc: osgeo-discuss (disc...@lists.osgeo.org); live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] Looking for Open-Source project 
inception dates for OSGeo projects

Ok, the list is now shorter thanks to this page: 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Source_GIS_History#Timeline

Just need dates for these projects now:


*  Geomajas

*  GeoServer

*  MapFish

*  ZOO-Project

*  Opticks

*  FDO

*  GeoTools

*  Metacrs

*  Rasdaman

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[Live-demo] Got a simple question, but can't seem to find the stuff I'm looking for.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

Anyone know where I might find a chart/list that shows when a particular 
project was ratified by OSGeo, and added to the product list?

I'm only looking for year of at this point.  Would meeting minutes be the 
obvious place to start?

Thanks

Bobb

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[Live-demo] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates for OSGeo projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Different strategy . . .

If you know when a project became Open Source, please reply here with that 
project's year of Open Sourcing.

Thanks

Bobb



OSGeo Projects
Web Mapping

  *   deegreehttp://www.osgeo.org/deegree
  *   geomajashttp://www.osgeo.org/geomajas
  *   GeoMoosehttp://www.geomoose.org/[Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif] (2007 Bob Basques)
  *   GeoServerhttp://geoserver.org/[Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif]
  *   Mapbenderhttp://www.osgeo.org/mapbender
  *   MapBuilderhttp://www.osgeo.org/mapbuilder
  *   MapFishhttp://www.osgeo.org/mapfish
  *   MapGuide Open Sourcehttp://www.osgeo.org/mapguide
  *   MapServerhttp://www.osgeo.org/mapserver
  *   OpenLayershttp://www.osgeo.org/openlayers
  *   ZOO-Projecthttp://www.zoo-project.org/[Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif]
Desktop Applications

  *   GRASS GIShttp://www.osgeo.org/grass
  *   Quantum GIShttp://www.osgeo.org/qgis
  *   gvSIGhttp://www.osgeo.org/gvsig[Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif]
  *   Optickshttp://opticks.org[Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif]
Geospatial Libraries

  *   FDOhttp://fdo.osgeo.org
  *   GDAL/OGRhttp://www.osgeo.org/gdal_ogr
  *   GEOShttp://geos.osgeo.org
  *   GeoToolshttp://www.osgeo.org/geotools
  *   MetaCRShttp://metacrs.osgeo.org/[Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif]
  *   OSSIMhttp://www.osgeo.org/ossim
  *   PostGIShttp://www.postgis.org/
  *   rasdamanhttp://www.rasdaman.org [Description: 
http://www.osgeo.org/sites/all/themes/osgeo/incubation.gif]
Metadata Catalog

  *   GeoNetworkhttp://www.osgeo.org/geonetwork


From: fwarmer...@gmail.com [mailto:fwarmer...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Frank 
Warmerdam
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:08 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: osgeo-discuss (disc...@lists.osgeo.org); live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Got a simple question, but can't seem to find the 
stuff I'm looking for.

Bob,

I assume you mean when they graduated from incubation?  Or perhaps you mean 
when they entered?  I am not aware of a unified list.  But you could review 
news announcements, and incubation and board minutes to harvest the info 
painfully.

Best regards,
Frank
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.usmailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote:
[cid:image003.gif@01CD9C03.331D0FF0]
All,

Anyone know where I might find a chart/list that shows when a particular 
project was ratified by OSGeo, and added to the product list?

I'm only looking for year of at this point.  Would meeting minutes be the 
obvious place to start?

Thanks

Bobb


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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates for OSGeo projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Barry,

Was hoping to get information real quickly.  Not all listers have access (or 
want)  to Wiki edit.

Might be better though with your added items.  I was planning on doing the WIKI 
in the end either way.

bobb

From: b.rowling...@gmail.com [mailto:b.rowling...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
Rowlingson
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:31 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: Frank Warmerdam; osgeo-discuss (disc...@lists.osgeo.org); 
live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates 
for OSGeo projects


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.usmailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote:
Different strategy . . .

If you know when a project became Open Source, please reply here with that 
project's year of Open Sourcing.


How about making a page on the OSGeo wiki instead of bouncing emails around?

A table of project name, project start date, OSGeo incubation date, maturity 
date would seem to serve you. references to the sources of those dates could be 
linked too (eg email messages, incubation discussions etc).

Barry



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Re: [Live-demo] [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates for OSGeo projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Hey, hey, looky what I found:  
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Source_GIS_History

Bobb



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Rowlingson
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 4:31 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: Frank Warmerdam; osgeo-discuss (disc...@lists.osgeo.org); 
live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates 
for OSGeo projects


On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.usmailto:bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us wrote:
Different strategy . . .

If you know when a project became Open Source, please reply here with that 
project's year of Open Sourcing.


How about making a page on the OSGeo wiki instead of bouncing emails around?

A table of project name, project start date, OSGeo incubation date, maturity 
date would seem to serve you. references to the sources of those dates could be 
linked too (eg email messages, incubation discussions etc).

Barry



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Re: [Live-demo] Looking for Open-Source project inception dates for OSGeo projects

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Ok, the list is now shorter thanks to this page: 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Source_GIS_History#Timeline

Just need dates for these projects now:


*  Geomajas

*  GeoServer

*  MapFish

*  ZOO-Project

*  Opticks

*  FDO

*  GeoTools

*  Metacrs

*  Rasdaman

Bobb




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[Live-demo] is there a sleeve and/or CD artwork file somewhere for Version6.0??

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

I found this so far: http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/livedvd/artwork/sleeve

I'm specifically looking for DVD artwork for version 6.0 (If it exists)

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Re: [Live-demo] Getting OSGEO LiveDVD copies.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

Do we just make them and look for OSGEO marketing reimbursement later or??

I have a couple of local places that can make them.

Thanks

Bobb



  -Original Message-
  From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:43 PM
  To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
  Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
  Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Getting OSGEO LiveDVD copies.
  
  The process for making use of OSGeo-Live is now written up on our
  wiki:
  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Including_OSGeo-
  Live_at_your_event
  
  
  On 18/09/2012 8:27 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
   On 09/17/2012 02:07 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
   All,
  
   I've been charged with getting a hold of any OSGeo conference
   resources available.  Main focus is getting some of the
  LiveDVDs on
   hand for a local conference (if possible)
  
   What's the best approach to getting some of the LiveDVDs
  pressed for our conference? What's the typical turnaround time
  and costs on getting some of the LiveDVDs.
  
   Our local MN GIS/LIS conference dates are Oct3 - Oct 5th.
  
   Thanks
  
   Bobb
  
  
   $2/DVD, 1-2 weeks, less time if you can find a local printer.
  Artwork
   is up to you, we provide a basic one in our svn. ISO files are
   available via the live.osgeo.org website.
  
   Thanks,
   Alex
  
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Re: [Live-demo] Getting OSGEO LiveDVD copies.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Ok.

So, who does the banner and table cover stuff?

Same situation?  Are there art files available somewhere?

Bobb




  -Original Message-
  From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:25 PM
  To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
  Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org; marketing
  Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Getting OSGEO LiveDVD copies.
  
  Bob,
  The Marketing committee doesn't have budget to cover printing of
  OSGeo-Live DVDs for consumable items such as OSGeoLive DVDs.
  You will need to cover the printing costs some other way.
  
  On 20/09/12 01:54, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
   All,
  
   Do we just make them and look for OSGEO marketing reimbursement
  later or??
  
   I have a couple of local places that can make them.
  
   Thanks
  
   Bobb
  
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:43 PM
 To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
 Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
 Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Getting OSGEO LiveDVD copies.
  
 The process for making use of OSGeo-Live is now written up
  on our
 wiki:
 http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#Including_OSGeo-
 Live_at_your_event
  
  
 On 18/09/2012 8:27 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:
  On 09/17/2012 02:07 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
  All,
 
  I've been charged with getting a hold of any OSGeo
  conference
  resources available.  Main focus is getting some of the
 LiveDVDs on
  hand for a local conference (if possible)
 
  What's the best approach to getting some of the LiveDVDs
 pressed for our conference? What's the typical turnaround
  time
 and costs on getting some of the LiveDVDs.
 
  Our local MN GIS/LIS conference dates are Oct3 - Oct
  5th.
 
  Thanks
 
  Bobb
 
 
  $2/DVD, 1-2 weeks, less time if you can find a local
  printer.
 Artwork
  is up to you, we provide a basic one in our svn. ISO
  files are
  available via the live.osgeo.org website.
 
  Thanks,
  Alex
 
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[Live-demo] Getting OSGEO LiveDVD copies.

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I've been charged with getting a hold of any OSGeo conference resources 
available.  Main focus is getting some of the LiveDVDs on hand for a local 
conference (if possible)

What's the best approach to getting some of the LiveDVDs pressed for our 
conference? What's the typical turnaround time and costs on getting some of the 
LiveDVDs.

Our local MN GIS/LIS conference dates are Oct3 - Oct 5th.

Thanks

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[Live-demo] Thoughts on how to include support information on the Live DVD

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

All,

I've been in a few discussions recently related to describing support options 
for OSGeo  software.

Are there any others with ideas about how to list support options for 
application on the Live DVD (or as a companion piece?)  I know this exists, but 
is it of any use to figure out a method or methods for distilling these type of 
listing down into Application pertinent listings for handouts at conference 
(along with a LiveDVD)?

I would imagine that the listing would likely change at different time indexes 
with respect to the LiveDVD releases.

Thanks

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Re: [Live-demo] Thoughts on how to include support information on the Live DVD

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Cameron,

Agree wholeheartedly, but this is a recurring question coming up from anyone 
interested in trying out (any) Open Source software.  It's also (in my opinion) 
a big piece of the Software sales task.  Are those lines in the overviews 
describing support coming from the support registry?  I know the stuff for 
GeoMoose was handwritten (by me) for example, but that's only pointing at the 
stuff our community knows about, shouldn't a piece of this be brought in from 
the support registry as well and printed out directly in the overview as a 
build process?

Putting out one or two pagers for each software package with some sort of 
Support pointer is pretty much a necessity.  I'm trying to explore a method 
where the information can be maintained in one location while still enabling 
the semi-update printing mechanism.  I assume for example that I could write 
something against this lookup service:

http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile

to pull information about particular packages,(like GeoMoose) etc:  Is there 
some sort of documentation or would I need to reverse engineer?:

GeoMoose support = 
http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile?SET=1MUL_COUNTRY[]=7MUL_LANGUAGE[]=8MUL_TECH[]=00088http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile?SET=1MUL_COUNTRY%5b%5d=7MUL_LANGUAGE%5b%5d=8MUL_TECH%5b%5d=00088

Is there some sort of registry to let the service operators know that I'm using 
it in this fashion?  Is there an opportunity here to set up a next gen version? 
 Is there a method to pull from this database a XML feed possibly, for syncing 
purposes??  I bet some of the registrants might not want this though, but who 
knows.

I may be able to secure some funding for some sort of digest output for this 
type of online service, or possibly OSGeo thinks that it's better left up to 
OSGeo to provide (that's where the information was collected after all).  
Either way, I wouldn't be interested in attempting anything in a vacuum unless 
it's a sanctioned process.

Bobb





From: Cameron Shorter [mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2012 3:10 PM
To: Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)
Cc: live-demo@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Thoughts on how to include support information on the 
Live DVD

Bob,
I believe we have support questions covered as each Project Overview has a line 
describing support options for that package.
I wouldn't want to replicate this information as it would become a maintenance 
problem to keep the information maintained in 2 locations.

On 13/09/2012 5:06 AM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
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All,

I've been in a few discussions recently related to describing support options 
for OSGeo  software.

Are there any others with ideas about how to list support options for 
application on the Live DVD (or as a companion piece?)  I know this exists, but 
is it of any use to figure out a method or methods for distilling these type of 
listing down into Application pertinent listings for handouts at conference 
(along with a LiveDVD)?

I would imagine that the listing would likely change at different time indexes 
with respect to the LiveDVD releases.

Thanks

Bobb








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