Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-27 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
TuxFamily responded saying they can and will install python32 (and anything from Debian Wheezy) if needed. -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-23 Thread Lukas W.
Thanks. I just noticed we can also port LSP2 to Python 2 if necessary as Django 1.7 does seem to support Python 2 and 3. 2014-07-23 19:06 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > The current (old) one is written in PHP. > > > Ok, so that is not a show-stopper now, but could be a potential problem in > the

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-23 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > The current (old) one is written in PHP. Ok, so that is not a show-stopper now, but could be a potential problem in the future. I haven't received an email back yet as to their plan to offer Python3 support. I'll let you know when I hear back. -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Tue

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-22 Thread Lukas W.
The new LSP, yes. The current (old) one is written in PHP. 2014-07-22 16:47 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > >> We would need Python 3 though. Could someone contact them and ask if >> that's possible? >> > > Sure thing. Email to tuxfamily suppo

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-22 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > We would need Python 3 though. Could someone contact them and ask if > that's possible? > Sure thing. Email to tuxfamily support has been sent. So the currently LSP is all written in Python3? -Tres ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-22 Thread Lukas W.
We would need Python 3 though. Could someone contact them and ask if that's possible? 2014-07-22 16:08 GMT+02:00 Lukas W. : > Oh, you seem to be right. It didn't say that on the website > > > 2014-07-21 15:25 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Lukas W. wrote: >> >

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-22 Thread Lukas W.
Oh, you seem to be right. It didn't say that on the website 2014-07-21 15:25 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > >> Oh, note that we will not be able to host the new LSP on tuxfamily, as >> it's written in Python. Maybe we should keep that in mind.

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-21 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Lukas W. wrote: > Oh, note that we will not be able to host the new LSP on tuxfamily, as > it's written in Python. Maybe we should keep that in mind. > Are you sure about that Lukas? http://lmms.tuxfamily.org/index.py

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-12 Thread Vesa
On 07/12/2014 05:22 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > > On Jul 12, 2014 2:48 AM, "Qrchack" > wrote: > > > > Already said I have Perl, Python and Ruby on my server. Still going > for tuxfamily? :P > > And we already listed the steps to get a team together which you h

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-12 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Jul 12, 2014 2:48 AM, "Qrchack" wrote: > > Already said I have Perl, Python and Ruby on my server. Still going for tuxfamily? :P And we already listed the steps to get a team together which you have ignored. Nearly every hosting provoder offers those services. At least 5 people on this list

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-11 Thread Qrchack
Already said I have Perl, Python and Ruby on my server. Still going for tuxfamily? :P On Fri, 11 Jul 2014 18:33:55 +0200 Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Ok I will ask now and revert back to this thread once I get a reply. > > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < > tres.finocchi...

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-11 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Ok I will ask now and revert back to this thread once I get a reply. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Tres Finocchiaro < tres.finocchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > You were the one to contact them to begin with, so I'd hope you'd also be > the one to ask about modifications to their service offerings.

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-11 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
You were the one to contact them to begin with, so I'd hope you'd also be the one to ask about modifications to their service offerings. To say python wasn't designed for the web is a bit preposterous.Most modern languages weren't "designed" for the web. The web itself wasn't "designed for th

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-11 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Has any one sent them a message on the issue yet? Then again on another note python for a website is a rather interesting corner case as its not really designed for websites. I have a major hunch though that they will say no to us as django does require some web server modifications. we would need

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-11 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Oooh that is a killer. Do the hosting providers have a recommendation? Is there a "portable" version of python we can upload? (I know java allows this type of nonsense :) We can link to the old for now by that would kill off any django dreams as well, right? I have a hard time believing it's un

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-11 Thread Lukas W.
Oh, note that we will not be able to host the new LSP on tuxfamily, as it's written in Python. Maybe we should keep that in mind. 2014-07-10 16:35 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > Jonathan, I'll send you and LukasW an email with the username I'd like to > add a brief explanation. > > - tres.finocc

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Jonathan, I'll send you and LukasW an email with the username I'd like to add a brief explanation. - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > After doing some experimentation with Lukas, btw thanks, you do have to > create a tuxfamily account. he n

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
After doing some experimentation with Lukas, btw thanks, you do have to create a tuxfamily account. he now has access to the project. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > After doing some experimentation with Lukas, btw thanks, you do have to > create a tuxfamily account.

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Yes I am advocating keeping the forums especially if we can host them on tux family. I am inquiring though and am working on giving lukas access but the way things are setup i have a hunch one will need to sign up for a tux family account and then i add that particular user once they have their ow

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I'm not sure by your email if you are advocating for keeping our old forums or not. In regards to access, can't you change your password and give Lukas temporary access so he can look around? This is why I was hoping to have a service account (I've created one at gmail if interested) so that a fe

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Regarding the forums, I think seeing as we have external sources that are willing to host our forums for us is a nice offer, but I think for them there would be too much hassle adding all our posts and users into their database. I was thinking we still setup our own forum and ask kvr and the other

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Sorry, The way their system works is that for each thing you have running be it websites db etc it seems like you can assign users to specific services. Lukas are you on irc right now? On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > > Waiting on a database dump of the forums. That way I c

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Lukas W.
> Waiting on a database dump of the forums. That way I can start setting it up That's not what I was talking about: 6 days ago, Tres wrote > If we have an account with tuxfamily I would like Lucas W and at least one backup to have access ASAP. Jonathan answered > I will see what i need to do to

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-10 Thread Lukas W.
Ok, agreed… let's drop SourceForge. Obviously it's getting on everyone's nerves. Jonathan? How's the tuxfamily thing going? 2014-07-09 14:55 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > So after reading emails a few times over as well as the instructions > LukasW has linked, it appears SF *does* still support

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-09 Thread musikbear
cant access the workload for this at all, but what if the forum re-opend on SF acording to there new 'ways of doing stuff:/' (workload??) - then a thourrow investigation of posible new hosts, could take place without /any/ stress at all, and there would be a working forum up for lmms as well. Faceb

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-09 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
So after reading emails a few times over as well as the instructions LukasW has linked, it appears SF *does* still support the forums, just not as a "Hosted App". http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/community-docs/Migrating%20phpBB%20from%20Hosted%20Apps/ SF retired the "Hosted App" version, but still

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-09 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Vesa can you ask them if they would be willing to import our stuff into their forums? I think that is the most important thing getting our existing forum posts up somewhere. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Vesa wrote: > Have we decided what to do with the forum yet? We now have several > offers

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-09 Thread Vesa
Have we decided what to do with the forum yet? We now have several offers, from both KVR and LinuxMusicians, to have a subforum under their forums. If we're going to stick to hosting our own, then we need to get on with setting that up.

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
The impression im getting though is they are pruning certain offerings. On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:16 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > There's still the question: Why tuxfamily? SF provides everything we need, > even more than tuxfamily. > > > 2014-07-07 19:05 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > > Can we vote to

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
ok. I will work on resurrecting the forums on there wednesday morning or thursday. @lukas is there somewhere where i can download a copy of the forum DB? On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > > Who do you think I should give access to? >> > > lukas...@gmail.com would be a

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Lukas W.
There's still the question: Why tuxfamily? SF provides everything we need, even more than tuxfamily. 2014-07-07 19:05 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > Can we vote to move ahead with tuxhosting? > > I just figured out how to add additional users. Who else should I give >> access to? > > > Someone c

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> > > Who do you think I should give access to? > lukas...@gmail.com would be a good start. More if we decide to stick with it for hosting. -- Open source business process management suite built on Java and Eclipse Turn p

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
> Who do you think I should give access to? - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > It shouldnt be hard to do actually :) I can do it if need be. even the > Media Wiki wiki if we opt to keep it or move it to github. > > @tres in a previous part

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
It shouldnt be hard to do actually :) I can do it if need be. even the Media Wiki wiki if we opt to keep it or move it to github. @tres in a previous part of this email or another one you suggested giving another person access to the account such as the wiki etc. Who do you think I should give acc

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-07 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Can we vote to move ahead with tuxhosting? I just figured out how to add additional users. Who else should I give > access to? Someone capable and willing to get phpBB resurrected. Volunteers? -Tres -- Open source busi

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@LukasW: Thanks for clarifying, I'm away from a proper computer so I couldn't spell this out today. Also I'd vote to see if we can perhaps allow LSP to authenticate with phpBB credentials? :) (if we can make a quick shim to do this). Now would be a proper time to do this in my opinion if others

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Lukas W.
Sorry, I didn't make it clear enough. GitHub can only do static websites. No wiki, no LSP, no forum. 2014-07-06 15:12 GMT+02:00 Stian Jørgensrud : > If Github can do it all, it would be easier to have one account for it all: > lsp, forums, wiki. Cause that would be doable if everything were host

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
If Github can do it all, it would be easier to have one account for it all: lsp, forums, wiki. Cause that would be doable if everything were hosted at github? I am often getting errors from the wiki, have any of you discovered this too? diiz wrote > On 07/06/2014 01:28 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > If w

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Lukas W.
> Forum can't be hosted on SF. Of course it can. 2014-07-06 13:12 GMT+02:00 Vesa : > On 07/06/2014 01:28 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > > > Apart from this, I don't really see a point in moving to tuxfamily. What > does tuxfamily provide that SF does not? In what way is it worth the effort? > > > Well,

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Vesa I agree with you there, my question though is wouldnt it be good to have something like a download archive as well as current stable releases at tuxfamily as well. Lets say github is down for one reason or another we would have our fallback for downloads at tuxfamily. I could even try to find

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Vesa
On 07/06/2014 01:28 PM, Lukas W. wrote: > > Apart from this, I don't really see a point in moving to tuxfamily. > What does tuxfamily provide that SF does not? In what way is it worth > the effort? Well, SF is a bit of a dead end. They have become unreliable, I have no confidence in keeping any of

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I think there is only one reason to keep tux family. Do we plan on starting a version archive of previous releases? Reason being they would be good to have in an archive download repo somewhere to use for regression testing and comparisons etc. On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Tobias Doerffel wr

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Tobias Doerffel
2014-07-06 12:28 GMT+02:00 Lukas W. : > Apart from this, I don't really see a point in moving to tuxfamily. What > does tuxfamily provide that SF does not? In what way is it worth the effort? Full ack. Nothing is wrong with Github. Besides the website stuff we already host release files at Github

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Lukas W.
> Does GitHub's policy allow hot linking? I can't find anything in their policy stating that they don't. They explicitly say the feature is meant for hosting binary releases and they even provide a way to get the download count. Btw, I mentioned this several times, it is also possible to host a we

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I just figured out how to add additional users. Who else should I give access to? On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > Latest Update: > > They quickly replied to me saying there are no space restrictions. They > only check that the space is being wisely used. > > I have a

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-06 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Latest Update: They quickly replied to me saying there are no space restrictions. They only check that the space is being wisely used. I have also asked if its possible to add additional users to a particular project and am now awaiting a reply. This is what I suggest. Wiki & website: we move t

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-05 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Well, you have access to our existing hosting, so you should be able to answer that (I do not have access so I cannot answer this question). -Tres - tres.finocchi...@gmail.com On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 12:07 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I will work on requesting more web space today. How much

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-05 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I will work on requesting more web space today. How much space do we need? On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Tres Finocchiaro wrote: > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Jonathan Aquilina > wrote: > > I will see what i need to do to give a backup person access to the >> account. >> > Or we change

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-05 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Jonathan Aquilina wrote: > I will see what i need to do to give a backup person access to the > account. > Or we change the email address registered to a shared/forwarded account. > Currently we are talking about 100Mb for everything. I just read the FAQ > and w

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-04 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Hi Tres, I will see what i need to do to give a backup person access to the account. Currently we are talking about 100Mb for everything. I just read the FAQ and we can request more space. Also they offer download repositories that can store up to 1G. We could take advantage of them for archival

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-04 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
On a side note, we have to stop doing work on islands. Together we have a very competent and eager team of people to get on new site/ hosting but somehow despite the excellent communication and teamwork on the LMMS initiatives, the web conversations have fallen short and done little to encourage w

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-04 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
Fantastic. Does GitHub's policy allow hot linking? This makes tuxfamily a much more viable option. I'd like to get conversation rolling now about this. @LukasW If Johnathon doesn't chime in, can you take control of the tux hosting acct? ---

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-04 Thread Lukas W.
Tres, we can host the windows intallers on GitHub. In fact, we already do. https://github.com/LMMS/lmms/releases 2014-07-04 16:00 GMT+02:00 Tres Finocchiaro : > @Stian, > > I agree. I was hoping to hear more from Jonathan on this. > > My main concern is hosting the downloads. I'd be interested

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-04 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
@Stian, I agree. I was hoping to hear more from Jonathan on this. My main concern is hosting the downloads. I'd be interested to know if our ~30MB windows installers * 8,000 downloads per month would be too much bandwidth monthly. Johnathan, please chime in here. Are you in contact with someo

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-07-04 Thread Stian Jørgensrud
We could have discussions about that, I guess. At least migrating the forums. Tuxfamily is free hosting for everything? Are the limits too low? Will the service continue to exist? Tres: KVR may not be willing to import our archived forum records because it would most likely take massaging to resto

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-05-15 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
I vote yes for this too. This is exactly what we need. On 15 May 2014 16:16, "Tres Finocchiaro" wrote: > I vote yes. > -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium

Re: [LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-05-15 Thread Tres Finocchiaro
I vote yes. -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform ava

[LMMS-devel] tuxfamily hosting

2014-05-15 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
Should I go ahead and subscribe to them? -- Jonathan Aquilina -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled sca