[PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Hello, Several months ago I floated the idea of creating a top level project covering logging services. The idea was received favorably. Moreover, we currently have or shortly will have inter-operability with the following log4j sister projects: * Log4Perl * Log4Net * Log4Cxx (c++) * Log4CPlus *

Re: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Jacob Kjome
+1 BTW, can we add something in there about trashing commons-logging :-) Just kidding (but only a little bit). Jake Quoting Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, Several months ago I floated the idea of creating a top level project covering logging services. The idea was received

RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, I have two questions before I vote ;) 1. Who is the Mr. Tobee that is mentioned on the draft proposal? 2. What about commons-logging? Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 10:07

Re: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Ceki Gülcü
As a top-level Apache project, we will have to carefully study any proposal which is within the boundaries of our mission. So if commons-logging decides to join LS we will have to give an honest consideration to their proposal. The same applies if a member of the Logging Services PMC makes

RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 10:09 AM 12/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: Howdy, I have two questions before I vote ;) 1. Who is the Mr. Tobee that is mentioned on the draft proposal? Mr. 'Tobee Determined' is yet to be determined. 2. What about commons-logging? See my previous message. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics

RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, OK then ;) +0 from me. I think it's an interesting idea. To have consistent guidelines for logging in multiple languages would be nice. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics -Original Message- From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003

cvs commit: jakarta-log4j/examples/objectBased - New directory

2003-12-11 Thread ceki
ceki2003/12/11 08:22:01 jakarta-log4j/examples/objectBased - New directory - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

cvs commit: jakarta-log4j/examples/objectBased Base.java ChildOne.java Test.java ChildTwo.java

2003-12-11 Thread ceki
ceki2003/12/11 08:24:33 Added: examples/objectBased Base.java ChildOne.java Test.java ChildTwo.java Log: A possible solution to the object-based logging problem put foth by Scott Melcher. See

RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Please feel free to contact any sister project you deem appropriate. If you do, you can mention that sister project will be treated on an equal footing, with proportional representation in the PMC. At 09:20 AM 12/11/2003 -0800, Scott Deboy wrote: +1 I'm curious to find out what the various

Re: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Paul Smith
Could I ask when would this proposal be submitted to the board? I would also dearly hope that as many of the sister projects as possible would join us to form a real logging community. I'd be inclined to withhold my vote until a feel for the reception of the idea has been gathered from the

RE: [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project

2003-12-11 Thread Mark Womack
Sorry for the delay and my general absence from the discussions. Things are still crazy here at work. +1 My comments on the subject: 1) If the sister projects decide to not particpate, then I think the need/momentum for this TLP dissipates. So, their support is key, in my mind. I think that

RE: commons-logging (was [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project)

2003-12-11 Thread Sullivan, Sean C - MWT
Link 1) http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/2003/08/15.html Link 2) http://www.qos.ch/logging/thinkAgain.html In spite of this criticism, my company is using Commons Logging + Log4j. -Sean -Original Message- From: Mark Womack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 11,

RE: commons-logging (was [PROPOSAL] Logging services top level project)

2003-12-11 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 11:45, Sullivan, Sean C - MWT wrote: Link 1) http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/2003/08/15.html What is interesting about this first link is the original veto to have a runtime dependency on log4j. As a component developer I can sympathise with the concept of trying to

cvs commit: jakarta-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j/chainsaw ChainsawToolBarAndMenus.java LogUI.java ApplicationPreferenceModel.java ApplicationPreferenceModelPanel.java

2003-12-11 Thread psmith
psmith 2003/12/11 18:25:53 Modified:src/java/org/apache/log4j/chainsaw ChainsawToolBarAndMenus.java LogUI.java ApplicationPreferenceModel.java ApplicationPreferenceModelPanel.java Log: Fixed previous bug of a