Re: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Smith
I didn't know about the forced migration, however that might be true. The Jakarta Wiki describes their migration as an infrastructure desired event. If there is a Subversion migration in our future, then it might be best to try to get all the version control pain over in one shot.

RE: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, There has been so much conversion to subversion recently in other areas of Jakarta, and I'm sure I read an email somewhere that the goal was to have everyone over to SVN by the end of the year, but I wouldn't trust my memory on things... You read correctly: Henri Yandell sent an email

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33708] New: - XML Configuration of loggerFactory does not work

2005-02-23 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Curt Arnold
On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:37 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Spotlight and Indexing service appear to be about finding the file that matches a query, IIRC. With Lucene there is more flexibility. Taking a classic Log file, I've created a lucene Document with 1 Field for each and every line of text in the

Re: Reverting Appender interface

2005-02-23 Thread Curt Arnold
On Feb 23, 2005, at 2:13 AM, Knut Wannheden wrote: The HiveMind appender implementation in question does subclass AppenderSkeleton (ViewCVS: http://tinyurl.com/4w83k). I was wondering if the issue could be resolved if the HiveMind appender would declare an isActive() method and the check above

Use NOT the first log4j.xml file but the last from classpath

2005-02-23 Thread Zeltner Martin
Hello, Have you already thought about loading per default not the first best log4j.xml file? I have several modules like a core module. These modules are available as jar files. In each jar file there is a log4j.xml file. Now I write my application which has a dependency to the core module. If I

Re: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 03:44 AM 2/23/2005, Paul Smith wrote: Hey All, Chainsaw is getting big. What does everyone think about moving Chainsaw out into it's own CVS module and making it a 'client' of the log4j library? In Eclipse one can make a Project have a dependency on another project, so that makes it nice

RE: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Scott Deboy
I agree, it makes sense to move Chainsaw to its own module. I'm not as enthusiastic about making Chainsaw a subproject - I'm not against the idea, but I think the developer community (hey, 2 or 3 is a community, right?) is too small to pass LS or Apache's expectations for a self-sustaining

RE: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Womack
-Original Message- From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:44 PM To: log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Subject: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module? Hey All, Chainsaw is getting big. What does everyone think about moving Chainsaw out into it's own

RE: Use NOT the first log4j.xml file but the last from classpath

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Womack
Martin, Others can chime in here, but my personal opinion is that it is a bad idea to include configuration files as part of jar files and changing the default behavior. The configuration of the log4j, what appenders are created, what logger messages are sent to where, all of that should be

RE: Use NOT the first log4j.xml file but the last from classpath

2005-02-23 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 06:05 PM 2/23/2005, you wrote: Martin, Others can chime in here, but my personal opinion is that it is a bad idea to include configuration files as part of jar files and changing the default behavior. The configuration of the log4j, what appenders are created, what logger messages are sent to

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33708] - XML Configuration of loggerFactory does not work

2005-02-23 Thread bugzilla
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cvs commit: logging-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j/spi ComponentBase.java

2005-02-23 Thread ceki
ceki2005/02/23 10:37:39 Modified:src/java/org/apache/log4j/spi ComponentBase.java Log: Added new getLoggerRepository method to ComponentBase. ComponentBase already knows about its owning LR. Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +9 -0

Re: cvs commit: logging-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j/joran/action Action.java RepositoryPropertyAction.java

2005-02-23 Thread Ceki Gülcü
Mark, The getLoggerRepository(ExecutionContext ec) method should not be part of the Action class because ComponentBase already knows about its LR. The method getLoggerRepository should be removed from Action and should not have been part of RepositoryPropertyAction. At 06:24 AM 2/22/2005,

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33708] - XML Configuration of loggerFactory does not work

2005-02-23 Thread bugzilla
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Re: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Smith
Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 05:25 PM 2/23/2005, Scott Deboy wrote: I agree, it makes sense to move Chainsaw to its own module. OK. I'll create a module called 'logging-chainsaw' or do you prefer another name? logging-chainsaw is fine by me, I don't mind handling the creation of the module unless

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33717] New: - Leaving out %throwable in ConversionPattern adds throwable to logging message regardless

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RE: Chainsaw as seperate CVS module?

2005-02-23 Thread Mark Womack
Since the message was not prefaced with [VOTE] I figured this was more a matter of opinion than one of actual voting/deciding. And Paul has subsequently called an official vote. If any logging services project wants to move to SVN ahead of a coordinated effort, who am I to stop them? And I am

Re: [VOTE]: Chainsaw as seperate module

2005-02-23 Thread Curt Arnold
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Re: [VOTE]: Chainsaw as seperate module

2005-02-23 Thread Jacob Kjome
+1 Jake Quoting Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is a formalization of the thread 'Chainsaw as seperate CVS module'. 1. Propose to move out Chainsaw sources into it's own CVS module, 'logging-chainsaw'. Chainsaw will rely on a log4j 1.3 build. 2. Propose to make the new

cvs commit: logging-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j AppenderSkeleton.java

2005-02-23 Thread carnold
carnold 2005/02/23 16:59:15 Modified:src/java/org/apache/log4j AppenderSkeleton.java Log: Iterating on Hivemind breakage Revision ChangesPath 1.37 +20 -18 logging-log4j/src/java/org/apache/log4j/AppenderSkeleton.java Index: AppenderSkeleton.java

RE: sub-classing logger - mark as final?

2005-02-23 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hola, I don't think we should subclass it as final. That's a radical measure far beyond a recommendation, and we can't assume we know all the use-cases/scenarios under which people might want to subclass Logger. The above applies to most open-source code, especially utility-level stuff like

Re: sub-classing logger - mark as final?

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Smith
yes, it is pretty brutal. I thought if it was 'in the best interests' of the user we could consider it, but as I said, I don't really understand the use cases that may benefit from sub-classing Logger. "Nothing to see here, move along now". :D Paul Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, I don't think

Re: sub-classing logger - mark as final?

2005-02-23 Thread Curt Arnold
On Feb 23, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Paul Smith wrote: yes, it is pretty brutal.  I thought if it was 'in the best interests' of the user we could consider it, but as I said, I don't really understand the use cases that may benefit from sub-classing Logger. I've had several discussions with log4cxx

Re: [VOTE]: Chainsaw as seperate module

2005-02-23 Thread Paul Smith
ok, only Ceki's vote to go, and I understand he's still recovering from some hardware problems. In a recent mail, Ceki intimated he was, in principle, in favour, so I will _begin_ this process locally, but not commit, and wait until Ceki has a chance to cast his vote. cheers, Paul Smith Paul