Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-19 Thread Ceki Gülcü
At 12:07 AM 12/17/2005, Curt Arnold wrote: Mark Womack, Ron Grabowski (from log4net) and I just recently returned from ApacheCON US 2005. I expect that Mark will be preparing a report on the Birds of a Feather on Monday night, our discussions on a release plan for 1.3 and thoughts on 2.0. One

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Womack
Unmaintainable may be a bit much, but I think it is fair to say that moving to something more modern, like Maven2, could yield some benefits. As Curt mentioned, there are some really nice features around documentation. We need to figure out the options and settings, but I think it has greater

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Womack
I think, but need to prove, that a Maven2 build will be easier than the Ant version. I agree that getting 1.3 out the door is a higher priority, but updating our documentation is a pretty high item for 1.3 (IMO) and if Maven2 makes this better/easier, then I am willing to make it happen.

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-19 Thread Mark Womack
Yeah, we are talking Maven2 here. It appears to be a really big improvement over Maven1. -Mark - Original Message - From: Scott Heaberlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Log4J Developers List log4j-dev@logging.apache.org Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Exploration of use

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-18 Thread Scott Heaberlin
There is one thing I haven't seen mentioned in this thread yet that I wasn't going to offer up but after seeing this comment, perhaps I should... quote namely the maintenance effort to keep an up to date pom.xml (or project.xml, which may be the more standard name IIRC, but it doesn't matter

Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-16 Thread Curt Arnold
Mark Womack, Ron Grabowski (from log4net) and I just recently returned from ApacheCON US 2005. I expect that Mark will be preparing a report on the Birds of a Feather on Monday night, our discussions on a release plan for 1.3 and thoughts on 2.0. One of my concerns had been the content

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-16 Thread Paul Glezen
My limited experiences with Maven and Forrest have yielded observations very much in line with your comments. Curt Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/16/2005 03:07:23 PM: ... I had been interested in seeing if Apache Forrest (http:// forrest.apache.org) might be an better solution,

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-16 Thread Curt Arnold
Explored a little more and committed some additional enhancements. A sample of the generated documentation from Maven can be viewed at http://people.apache.org/~carnold/log4j_mvn/maven-reports.html. There are many known issues: several of the links point to non- existent documents, the

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-16 Thread Yoav Shapira
Hi, My take on it is same as before: it's a nice tool, has some cool features. But it's only worth pursuing if the benefits outweigh the costs, namely the maintenance effort to keep an up to date pom.xml (or project.xml, which may be the more standard name IIRC, but it doesn't matter much). I

Re: Exploration of use of Maven for site generation and build

2005-12-16 Thread Curt Arnold
On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote: One good thing to ask ourselves is: is this really the itch to scratch? Have users been complaining about the current documentation? Or is our time better spent on getting log4j 1.3 backwards-compatible and out-the-door already? I think