Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 04:23:36PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > That's why I recommend Nildram. I've been banging their drum since '98. Good folk, in it for the joy rather than merciless customer accruement. P
Re: hello again
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 02:52:43PM +, jo walsh wrote: > mailman, i know i promised, it doesn't like our version of exim, alex > spent half a day fighting another installation of it :( been a very busy > work week here If you need a hand, lemme know. I've done this before, *snaps rubber gloves* Paul
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-05
* Philip Newton ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Leon Brocard wrote: > > On Thursday, a London.pm Heretic Meeting happened in a lovely > > pub with a nice warm fire by the Thames. For the uninitiated, > > a Heretic Meeting happens when the first thursday of the month > > is the 1st. Heretic meetings thus happen on the 7th, and are > ^^^ > 8th. (For the summary in four weeks' time :-) > london.pm meetings happen on the day after the first wednesday of the month - some misinformed people may have meetings on the 1st of the month occasionally, but what can i say? they are just crazy! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-05
Leon Brocard wrote: > On Thursday, a London.pm Heretic Meeting happened in a lovely > pub with a nice warm fire by the Thames. For the uninitiated, > a Heretic Meeting happens when the first thursday of the month > is the 1st. Heretic meetings thus happen on the 7th, and are ^^^ 8th. (For the summary in four weeks' time :-) > organised (?) by Greg and not Dave. This'll happen again next > month... Cheers, Philip
London.pm List Weekly Summary 2001-02-05
This is the third of hopefully many weekly summaries of the London
Perl Mongers mailing list. The list has grown so popular (a hundred
messages a day is not uncommon) that I think this is
necessary. Comments welcome. For the week starting 2001-02-05:
Don't forget the London.pm website for meetings etc. The next meeting
is a technical meeting on Thursday, February 22th when Matt Sergeant
will be talking about AxKit.
This year's yapc::Europe has now been announced, with all the regulars
giving talks no doubt:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02119.html
http://yapc.org/Europe/
Dave Cross attempted to sort out the great London.pm Mailing List
Confusion, and got sidetracked rather cleverly by Jonathan Stowe
("Yeah, can I have a pony ?") into an irc #perl obsession. By the way,
in addition to the mailing list there is also a London.pm IRC server
at london.rhizomatic.net, channel #london.pm (btw dodgy connectivity
recently):
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02014.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02028.html
Damian Conway is coming at the end of the month, and we may well be
hosting it in... the Conway Hall!
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02080.html
http://www.ethicalsoc.org.uk/conway/hall.htm
Should the general public be able to program? Jonathan Peterson
reckons (amongst others) that they should, and that "Perl for Dummies"
kind of books should be encouraged. Others disagreed, saying that bad
programmers tend not to realise how bad they are, which is bad and
dangerous, and that bad habits are hard to unlearn. A car and oil
metaphor got taken way too far. Books with errors got mentioned.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02025.html
Mark Fowler and Shevek talked about garbage collection, which is crazy
deep magic:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02072.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02077.html
http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/
An interesting thread happened describing interesting jobs people had
before entering the Perl world. Best ones so far include working in
Iceland in fish factories ("The Artic Ocean is way cool!") and offal
processing.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg01928.html
Some discussion about the location of this month's meeting (which was
fun) occured. It was basically quite noisy, expensive, and not very
central. People are looking at alternatives. The discussion meandered
into talk about Wong Kei, a Chinese with legendary bad service.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02011.html
On Thursday, a London.pm Heretic Meeting happened in a lovely pub with
a nice warm fire by the Thames. For the uninitiated, a Heretic Meeting
happens when the first thursday of the month is the 1st. Heretic
meetings thus happen on the 7th, and are organised (?) by Greg and not
Dave. This'll happen again next month...
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02074.html
A little discussion on Midgard lead onto a new Perl Application server
wotsit, currently being discussed on the Template-Toolkit list. It
also contains Yet Another Perl Object Persistence Framework.
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02091.html
http://www.midgard-project.org/
http://openinteract.org/
http://openinteract.org/spops/
Getting rapidly back on topic, Mark Fowler discusses the poor/good
Buffy film. This thread evolved into why film trailers contain all the
jokes in the actual film, or sometimes even more:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02105.html
Simon Wistow is still looking for moose, and presents "Dada Dodo Does
Four Char Word Ouli Perl". #london.pm is also getting a bit of a crazy
place for Ouilipo stuff:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg02118.html
http://www.twoshortplanks.com/simon/four/
And finally, we now know how famous Perl authors such as Dave Cross
spend their day:
http://www.mail-archive.com/london-pm%40lists.dircon.co.uk/msg01982.html
http://bbspot.com/News/2001/01/perl_god.html
Leon
--
Leon Brocard.http://www.astray.com/
yapc::Europehttp://yapc.org/Europe/
... 3 out of 4 Americans make up 75% of the population
OpenInteract or maybe Apache::Request
Hi, I'm hoping someone has used this and can help with a small problem Everything is fine until I restart Apache when I get the following error: OpenInteract::Startup::require_module (236) >> --require error: Apache::Request : Can't load '/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/auto/Apache/Request/Request.so' for module Apache::Request: libapreq.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory at /usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux/DynaLoader.pm line 169, chunk 4. at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i386-linux/mod_perl.pm line 65535 I got Apache::Request from libapreq-0.31_03. Anyone have a clue what is wrong. TIA Andy "It will be happened; it shall be going to be happening; it will be was an event that could will have been taken place in the future."
Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
on 9/2/01 4:23 pm, David Cantrell wrote: > That's why I recommend Nildram... They're > expensive, but it's worth it. Indeed. Real people to talk to. Real people to help out when things inevitably go pear shaped. Real people to plug things in and unplug them. c. -- every day, computers are making people easier to use http://www.unorthodoxstyles.com
Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 04:17:25PM +, Mark Fowler wrote: > Most ISPs (people on the list excluded) tend > to be clueless when it comes to talking to their clients. Since talking > to bad techical support can take years off of your life this is something > I try to avoid. That's why I recommend Nildram. Their techs are clued, and if I ask something that that particular person doesn't know about they don't try to bullshit me, they say "I don't know, but I'll get a colleague to call you". And they do call me when they say they will. I *like* that. They're expensive, but it's worth it. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important ** PGP signature
Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:04:10PM +, Neil Ford wrote:
>
> > My first instinct is to put the box in Mailbox as it'll be fairly low
> > usage but with the recent outage to london.rhizo I'm concerned what
> > Mailbox's record is like.
>
> That is the first major outage I've noticed.
They've had minor outages in the past. About a month ago we lost them for
half an hour.
Whenever we've dealt with their technical support team (both for the box
and for ADSL) they've been relatively clued up. This is a good thing and
I can forgive a lot for it. Most ISPs (people on the list excluded) tend
to be clueless when it comes to talking to their clients. Since talking
to bad techical support can take years off of your life this is something
I try to avoid.
Later.
Mark.
--
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Name => 'Mark Fowler',Title => 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm => 'Profero Ltd',Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email => '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:04:10PM +, Neil Ford wrote: > My first instinct is to put the box in Mailbox as it'll be fairly low > usage but with the recent outage to london.rhizo I'm concerned what > Mailbox's record is like. That is the first major outage I've noticed. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important ** PGP signature
Re: Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
On or about Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 03:04:10PM +, Neil Ford typed: >I know a number of people on here have boxes at Mailbox, so I'd be >interested to hear people's thoughts. On the list or by private email >is fine. Mostly no complaints, but they've had more than their share of routeing problems recently. Decent price. Roger
Mailbox co-lo - honest opinions
Well it looks like I have my first serious customer and I need to find a home for a machine for them. My first instinct is to put the box in Mailbox as it'll be fairly low usage but with the recent outage to london.rhizo I'm concerned what Mailbox's record is like. I have an alternative location but they require a 1U server which is going to greatly increase the inital cost. I know a number of people on here have boxes at Mailbox, so I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts. On the list or by private email is fine. Thanks in advance. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Yet Another Computer Solutions Company [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hello again
> is there anybody out there? :> > lo bobule :) some of us are hanging out on #london.pm, irc.rhizomatic.net:6667 most of the time mailman, i know i promised, it doesn't like our version of exim, alex spent half a day fighting another installation of it :( been a very busy work week here i will get it sorted. maybe even today, and let you know jo
Re: IRC: london.rhizomatic.net down
Philip Newton typed:
> mailboxes.net--
>
> london.rhizomatic.net seems to be down.
http://www.mailbox.net.uk/support/status.shtml sez
2001-02-09 13:12:22 (alexx)
Routing to Fulham is having problems, we are trying to fix it now.
Laters.
Mark.
--
print "\n",map{my$a="\n"if(length$_>6);' 'x(36-length($_)/2)."$_\n$a"} (
Name => 'Mark Fowler',Title => 'Technology Developer' ,
Firm => 'Profero Ltd',Web => 'http://www.profero.com/' ,
Email => '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', Phone => '+44 (0) 20 7700 9960' )
IRC: london.rhizomatic.net down
mailboxes.net-- london.rhizomatic.net seems to be down. Cheers, Philip
bbspot article
Student Suspended Over Suspected Use of PHP http://www.bbspot.com/News/2000/6/php_suspend.html The last paragraph is amusing, and, surprisingly for me, nearly on-topic. -- Robert
