Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp Not really surprising news, though, since he was fighting with Tannenbaum in 1991 about whether micro-kernels were worth the bother or not. I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't need >64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
Re: [HELP] Traceroute
Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 05:37:34PM +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > > You probably want: > > > TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols, > > Gah, I've got a copy of that on my shelf. Really should get round > to reading it at some point... Ah, "bought any good books lately?". There are some books that are just good to _own_ -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: sub BEGIN {}
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:10:02PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:54:25PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: > > > Grr. I don't *want* to turn into an elitist wanker > > > > I seem to solve this by being one all along... > > 'Elitist' implies to me that one is applying unreasonable, arbitrary > criteria. It does? I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Now, where'd I put the OED data disk? > Well shit, if despising scum is unreasonable and arbitrary, then > sign me up! You bofh. Me bofh too... -- Piers
Re: Mmm... Perl 5+i
Philip Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Piers Cawley wrote: > > I'm really liking Damian's work on this. Favourite so far: > > > > %new_hash = map {yield munge_key($_); munge_value($_)} %a_hash >^ > > Looks like someone's been doing too much Ruby to me Yield in coroutines is way older than Ruby. And note that yield in this context is not mucking about with default blocks and all that stuff... -- Piers
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
Paul Makepeace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://www.msnbc.com/news/555930.asp > > Sadly, lacking on details. > > Paul, who still likes it. Certainly from the play I had with it at Neil's, it looks pretty good. Now, if I can just get someone to give me a G4 Titanium PowerBook I'll actually have something to run on it. -- Piers
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:30:07AM +0100, Rob Partington wrote: > I mostly like MacOS X, but it is way too resource hungry. I shouldn't > need >64M to run a GUI and Unix comfortably, that's just crap. It's not just *any* GUI though, it's a GUI that does genie-in-a-bottle minimise/restore! Oh yes! Which I have to play with about five times every time I minimise a window because it's just that bloody cool! Definitely worth $7 of RAM. Paul, who just got the first gnarly bit of his OS X Cocoa app to work and is a little giddy...
Re: Silly postings
On Fri, 06 Apr 2001, you wrote: > Which is of course wrong. Russia makes the best firearms, Australia makes > the best wine, and .us produces the best bloodthirsty maniacs. I believe > they recently elected one as their Fuhrer. Russia makes the best firearms? my dear chap, you obviously haven't had the misfortune to use many of them then. For quality and ease of use you want an M16/AR15 For sheer accuracy you want an Anschutz ... -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Torvalds not impressed with OS X
Piers Cawley [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] quoth: *> *>Certainly from the play I had with it at Neil's, it looks pretty good. *>Now, if I can just get someone to give me a G4 Titanium PowerBook I'll *>actually have something to run on it. I have a Ti book and it seems resource hungry even on that. It consumes 2GB of disk space which even solaris hasn't managaed to do yet. I have 380+ MB RAM and I find it very slow on launching OS 9 or 'classic' applications and my mouse pointer goes missing every now and then when it wakes up from sleep. I still find most GUIs cumbersome so OS X has done nothing for me to dissuade me from thinking I'd be happier with NetBSD. I find the urge to lick the screen most disturbing. Until there are more compelling reasons to use OS X, other than it looks smart on your desktop, I don't think it will be very readily adopted. SUSE PPC Linux installs much more easily and is faster with less candy. It will be interesting to see how OS X evolves in the next year or so. In spite of my dissatisfaction with the OS itself, I'm happy to see Apple bringing the power of unix to the desktop and I'll hope in a year or two that it will be compelling to upgrade. e.
Re: [HELP] Traceroute
On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 06:59:44AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Alex Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols, > > Gah, I've got a copy of that on my shelf. Really should get round > > to reading it at some point... > Ah, "bought any good books lately?". There are some books that are > just good to _own_ I didn't buy it... it was a present from a guilty former employer when he didn't give me the permanent position he'd promised me when I joined the company after graduation. Also got O'Rielly's HTML and XHTML, which my girlfriend has since lost... *grr* Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth
Re: Grammar (was: Re: Linux.com Online Chat)
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:28:16AM +0200, Philip Newton wrote: > Alex Page wrote: > > When I was at prep school, my English teacher had lots of > > little signs over the classroom walls saying things like > > "It's not all right to say 'alright'", to drum little things > > like that in. > I hope it had s/say/write/ , since I don't hear any difference when someone > *says* "all right" or "alright". I dunno. Probably as a result of that sign, I always try to enunciate the gap between the words... Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth