Re: London.pm posting stats

2001-06-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, Richard Clamp wrote:

 On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:57:52PM +0100, Simon Cozens wrote:
  On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 09:10:53PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
   And how about a signal/noise bias? ;-)
 
  The noise *is* signal.

 I'll have what he's drinking.


Drinking ?  SEE PATTERNS IN NORMALLY AMBIGUOUS [ VISUAL ] MATERIAL and
MORE TOLERANT OF CONTRADICTIONS are described in
http://www.druglibrary.org/special/tart/tart24.htm

:)

/J\






Re: Upcoming technical meeting

2001-06-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

 * Leon Brocard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  Redvers Davies sent the following bits through the ether:
 
   I'll be there...  btw, has anyone heard back from the YAPC::Europe peeps
   about which papers have been accepted?... or have any idea when the
   list will be published. [1]
 
  Speakers will be told Real Soon Now. Registration might happen pretty
  soon too. Speakers don't need to register.
 

 maybe you'd like to make the point that those who can spare 40 quid
 or whatever and are speakers can still register to help balance
 the books



Wierdly I just heard this morning that my proposal has been accepted -
voice style=Mr TCrazee Fools/voice :)

/J\




Re: Perl CGI For The World Wide Web

2001-06-10 Thread James Powell

On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 12:16:03PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
 Remember the discussion some months ago about what a horrible book this
 was?
 
 Well, I've been exchanging emails with the author since slagging her off
 big-time on Amazon. Somehow I've managed to make her thing that my input
 is useful and I've just received a copy of the second edition of the book.
 
[snip]
 
 Dave...
 
 p.s Oh, and the acknowledgements page lists Dave Cross, who not only pointed
 out the problems, but also helped me solve them :)

Could this be love? ;)


jp



The meaning of life...

2001-06-10 Thread Leo Lapworth

I thought you lot might appreciate this...

ROCKS: THE MEANING OF LIFE  

A philosophy professor stood before his class and had some items in front of
 him. When the class began, wordlessly he picked up a large empty
mayonnaise  jar and proceeded to fill it with rocks, rocks about 2 in
diameter. He then asked the students if the jar was full? They agreed that
it was.

So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the
jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course, rolled into the  open
areas between the rocks. He then asked the students again
if the jar was full. They agreed it was. The students laughed. The
professor picked up a box of sand and  poured it into the jar. Of course,
the sand filled up everything else.

Now, said the professor, I want you to recognise that this is your  life.
  The rocks are the important things - your family, your partner, your
health,  your children - things that if everything else was lost and  only
they remained, your life would still be full.  The pebbles are the other
things that matter like your job, your house,  your  car. The sand is
everything else. The small stuff. If you put the sand  into the jar first,
there is no room for the pebbles or  the rocks. The same goes for your life.
If you spend all your time and  energy on the small stuff, you will never
have room for the things that  really matter.  Pay attention to the things
that are critical to your happiness. Play with  your children. Take time to
get medical checkups. Take your partner out  dancing. There will always be
time to go to work, clean the house, give a  dinner party and fix the
disposal. Take care of the rocks first ? the  things that really matter.
Set your priorities. The rest is just sand.

But then...

A student then took the jar which the other students and the professor
agreed was full, and proceeded to pour in a glass of beer. Of course the
beer filled the remaining spaces within the jar making the jar truly full.



The moral of this tale is: that no matter how full your life is, there is
always room for BEER




Default library paths

2001-06-10 Thread Matthew Robinson

Apologies in advance if I have missed something blindingly obvious :)

I need to change the default library paths in a compiled copy of perl.
Basically, I want to move /usr/lib/perl5 into /usr/local/lib/perl5.  I am
unable to recompile perl as it is compiled for arm-linux and I don't have
either the cross-compiler or the correct configuration to get perl to build
for this architecture.

Currently, I am using a soft link from my /usr/lib to /usr/local/lib.
However, I would prefer to keep the whole installation on /usr/local as this
is mounted from a removable disk and I would prefer not to have dangling
links when the device is removed.

Any suggestions, or am I stuck with the link in /usr/lib.

Matt

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Re: www.gateway.gov.uk

2001-06-10 Thread Roger Horne

On Sat 09 Jun, Robert Shiels wrote:
 
 Assume for a moment that I'm using lynx on Linux, and I want to send the
 government my tax return securely. What are the security implications, can
 it actually be done. I don't want to go off half-cocked and complain about
 something when I don't fully understand why the alternative is better.
 
 Could someone explain it to me, and give me an address to send my complaint
 to, and I'll definitely do it.

As someone else has pointed out, this derived from a Linuxuser article at
http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/articles/issue11/gateway.html

This points out that most Government IT is now contracted out and this is
so far as I am aware correct. Most departments appear to have *no*
professional computing staff. 

(Some months ago I converted a Court Guide prepared by a judge into HTML.
The intention was that this should be put on the Court Service site.
Unfortunately Court Service had had its site redesigned -- white text
on a purple background, etc -- and so the 39 files needed to be topped
and tailed with their standard templates. When I suggested that this
would not take even me more than an hour to do with Perl I was told
by the Court Service IT department We use DreamWeaver, we have no
need for Perl. The Guide -- complete with meta tags on each page saying 
meta name=author content=The Court Service Publications Branch --
appeared on the CS site about 6 weeks later.)

One of the main outside companies used by Departments is EDS. So far as
certificates are concerned, at a meeting I went to a week or so ago the
chairman, who is employed by another legal government department, handed
round a message to him from a colleague saying that all contact with
outsiders would require the use of digital certificates. The message was
accompanied by a Paper which gave the impression of being written by someone
in the department. In fact it was a topped and tailed copy of a paper
written by one of the certificate suppliers, Entrust, on PKI (public key
infrastructure?) 
http://www.entrust.com/resourcecenter/descriptions/152.htm 
Unsurprisingly  it claims that digital certificates are essential. 

I note that the whole idea of PKI has been questioned:
http://www.counterpane.com/pki-risks.html

Another series of Articles from the Register show that EDS in NZ have
dropped the idea in relation to their Revenue. If it is not essential there
presumably it is not essential here. See the three links at the end of 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/19340.html

But how one persuades the civil service of that I don't know.

Roger H
-- 
Roger Horne, 11 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, London WC2A 3QB
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http:www.hrothgar.co.uk/




Re: Default library paths

2001-06-10 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Matthew Robinson wrote:

 Apologies in advance if I have missed something blindingly obvious :)

 I need to change the default library paths in a compiled copy of perl.
 Basically, I want to move /usr/lib/perl5 into /usr/local/lib/perl5.  I am
 unable to recompile perl as it is compiled for arm-linux and I don't have
 either the cross-compiler or the correct configuration to get perl to build
 for this architecture.


PERL5LIB ?

/J\




Re: Default library paths

2001-06-10 Thread Matthew Robinson

On Sun, 10 June 2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, Matthew Robinson wrote:

  Apologies in advance if I have missed something blindingly obvious :)
 
  I need to change the default library paths in a compiled copy of perl.
  Basically, I want to move /usr/lib/perl5 into /usr/local/lib/perl5.  I
am
  unable to recompile perl as it is compiled for arm-linux and I don't
have
  either the cross-compiler or the correct configuration to get perl to
build
  for this architecture.
 

 PERL5LIB ?

I suppose I could use PERL5LIB but I would still prefer the entirely self
contained setup.  Also PERL5LIB won't work with taint checking (not that I
will be doing much taint checking on my iPAQ).

Matt