Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread Damian Conway

Ate, incidentally, is a contraction of Hecate, which wouldn't have
scanned as well.

Err, just quietly Dave, that proves not to be the case.

Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
in leading men astray.

Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.

The latter is much beloved of modern Goddess worshippers -- as the
third personification of the Goddess. They'll have your guts
(or worse!) for garters if they catch you confusing Her with
that bitch Ate ;-)

Damian





Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread David Cantrell

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 08:48:10PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:
 Ate, incidentally, is a contraction of Hecate, which wouldn't have
 scanned as well.
 
 Err, just quietly Dave, that proves not to be the case.
 
 Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
 She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
 in leading men astray.
 
 Hecate was the goddess of the night, of magic, and travel at night.
 She was a cousin of Zeus, and dwelt quietly in the Underworld.

She was also a death-goddess, and the mistress of the black arts and
of witchcraft.  And she had Cerberus as a pet.  She was especially
singled out as evil in the middle ages.  Also note the two lines after
"Cry Havoc":

   That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
   With carrion men, groaning for burial

One thing that Hecate did was running around with her dogs gathering
the souls of the wandering dead and taking them to Hades.

It seems that both Ate and Hecate would be reasonable readings.  Perhaps
Billy Shakers did that on purpose.

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Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Sat, Apr 14, 2001 at 08:48:10PM +1000, Damian Conway wrote:

All roads lead to London.pm, 'twould seem.

Welcome aboard crewmates!

Paul



Re: The Most Boring Thread Ever on London.pm : Cool Letter Heads

2001-04-15 Thread Nathan Torkington

Damian Conway writes:
 Ate was the goddess of folly, strife, discord, and mischief.
 She was a daughter of Zeus, banished to Earth for her wickness
 in leading men astray.
 ^^

 [...]
 (or worse!) for garters if they catch you confusing Her with
 that bitch Ate ;-)

That's my kind of bitch :-)

Nat