Re: The Natives are Revolting
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Ian Brayshaw" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (... Mind you, it all looks lovely(?) and dandy(?) under IE ... you've got to love the "near enough is good enough" approach of M$ ...) "Be liberal in what you accept, conversative in what you send." -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
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In message 20010418220311.VUOR29087.viemta05@localhost, Marcel Grunauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't get nmh to work, so I'm using OS X's Mail at the moment. Will hack tools in Perl, though.) It compiles with a small tweak to the Makefile and removal of the stupid sys_errlist[] declaration in one of the .c files. Seems to work fine, so far. -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
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I know you're all probably bored with this, but I was even more bored and
checked out the site further
(Although "Chris"'s website http://storedscripts.virtualave.net/ is quite,
um, entertaining ...)
It seems Burak Kanber (bk?) is Chris's best friend.
Not bad for a 13 year old though, ('legal' disclaimers excepted). They both
should really get out more (and I should get on with some work).
Jon
Re: The Natives are Revolting
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 08:37:31PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real go at me. If you want to take a look, read the thread that starts at: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 "And I can program better than you any day of the week. Bring it on if you want a challange. I will totally blow you and any supporter away in a programming match." Tony -- -- Tony Bowden | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.tmtm.com/ I'd rather walk than crawl but my heels are aching -- PGP signature
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:29:03AM +0100, Jon Galliers wrote: I know you're all probably bored with this, but I was even more bored and checked out the site further (Although "Chris"'s website http://storedscripts.virtualave.net/ is quite, um, entertaining ...) Not bad for a 13 year old though Hmmm ... if 'not working at all' is the same as 'not bad'. All I get is the title image. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
RE: The Natives are Revolting
From: David Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 10:58 AM On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 10:29:03AM +0100, Jon Galliers wrote: I know you're all probably bored with this, but I was even more bored and checked out the site further (Although "Chris"'s website http://storedscripts.virtualave.net/ is quite, um, entertaining ...) Not bad for a 13 year old though Hmmm ... if 'not working at all' is the same as 'not bad'. All I get is the title image. Yeah. It doesn't work at all in Netscape. Works in IE tho'. That generally means that the tables are broken somewhere along the line. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
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Dave Cantrell wrote: Hmmm ... if 'not working at all' is the same as 'not bad'. All I get is the title image. Got to love badly formed HTML (probably a missing /table tag or two). ... And I thought he was an "master". ... Oops, sorry, that was only in "PERL", not HTML. (... Mind you, it all looks lovely(?) and dandy(?) under IE ... you've got to love the "near enough is good enough" approach of M$ ...) Ian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
RE: The Natives are Revolting
From: Ian Brayshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:19 AM Dave Cantrell wrote: Hmmm ... if 'not working at all' is the same as 'not bad'. All I get is the title image. Got to love badly formed HTML (probably a missing /table tag or two). ... And I thought he was an "master". ... Oops, sorry, that was only in "PERL", not HTML. Running the page thru an HTML validator is an interesting experience. http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fstoredscripts .virtualave.net%2Finput=yes And, yes, towards the end it says: Line 146, character 111: ... ogramming All Rights Reserved ^ Error: end tag for TABLE omitted; possible causes include a missing end tag, improper nesting of elements, or use of an element where it is not allowed Which will cause all of the table to be invisible in Netscape. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: The Natives are Revolting
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:26:52AM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: "And I can program better than you any day of the week. Bring it on if you want a challange. I will totally blow you and any supporter away in a programming match." I think I should take him up on it - who said life was fair :) Can I be the impartial adjudicator? Oh please! -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
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Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me being there. Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real go at me. If you want to take a look, read the thread that starts at: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 Shame your solution ignored the locking problem... -- Piers
RE: The Natives are Revolting
From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:34 AM Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me being there. Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real go at me. If you want to take a look, read the thread that starts at: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 Shame your solution ignored the locking problem... The concept of locking is so far beyond the grasp of these people that I conveniently ignored it :) Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: The Natives are Revolting
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 11:33:53AM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 Shame your solution ignored the locking problem... Ha ha, we both just posted simultaneously -- I think between our posts we should have *that* problem sorted. Amazing, in retrospect, how ludicrously complex it all is. (Welcome to Unix, thanks for grep'ing, have a nice day. [WTUTFGHAND]) Paul
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dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:34 AM Dave Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me being there. Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real go at me. If you want to take a look, read the thread that starts at: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 Shame your solution ignored the locking problem... The concept of locking is so far beyond the grasp of these people that I conveniently ignored it :) There is that. Actually, I'm considering downloading the source of the web board software that's being used and doing a hatchet job of a code review on it. Maybe it'll surprise me and be well written... -- Piers
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* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: The Natives are Revolting
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
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*grins* * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Remember the Liz Castro BBS that I was talking about a few weeks ago. Simon mentioned that a couple of the natives were getting restless and seemed uncomfortable with me being there. Well, one of them has finally snapped and is currently having a real go at me. If you want to take a look, read the thread that starts at: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 Enjoy, Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. Greg++ -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
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At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. And now this in a new thread: "Usually BK is the right one. And from what I see, the codes your are handing out are a bumch of BS. The codes maybe right but they are a long way of doing things and I agree with BK. The help you give out is really not that great." Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. Greg++ You've upset them now : http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4473 /J\
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk Chris: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=chris ROFLMAO! and for your edification, 'chris' just wrote in reply to jns: " And I can program better than you any day of the week. Bring it on if you want a challange. I will totally blow you and any supporter away in a programming match. " -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: The Natives are Revolting
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: At 22:13 18/04/2001, Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Dave Cross wrote: At 21:39 18/04/2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:30:56PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4453 JS! stop it i'm replying! LOL at Greg's post. Greg++ You've upset them now : http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?read=4473 I dunno. You try to do a nice thing for people Some of the most fun on the board can be found by reading member's personal profiles: bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk Chris: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=chris One does have to wonder about someone called [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Kinda say's it all Neil.
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote: I dunno. You try to do a nice thing for people Some of the most fun on the board can be found by reading member's personal profiles: bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk Chris: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=chris And interestingly they both have websites hosted on virtualave.net u (Okay I was bored and followed the links) Neil.
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On Wed 18 Apr, David Cantrell wrote:
On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:20:51PM +0100, Dave Cross wrote:
bk:http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=bk
Chris: http://www.cookwood.com/cgi-bin/lcastro/perlbbs.pl?profile=chris
ROFLMAO!
and for your edification, 'chris' just wrote in reply to jns:
" And I can program better than you any day of the week. Bring it on if
you want a challange. I will totally blow you and any supporter away
in a programming match. "
But they *are* only children. ("Chris" claims to be 13 and I bet the others
are not much older.)
Far more interesting is that Castro claims that the "profiles" are copyright
1998 Elizabeth Castro.
(Although "Chris"'s website http://storedscripts.virtualave.net/ is quite,
um, entertaining ...)
Roger
(A *much* older amateur)
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On Wednesday, April 18, 2001, at 11:55 PM, Neil Ford wrote: One does have to wonder about someone called [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Kinda say's it all Neil. Apparently 13 years old. Bless. (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't get nmh to work, so I'm using OS X's Mail at the moment. Will hack tools in Perl, though.) Marcel -- Damnit, where did the .sig go?
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 10:55:20PM +0100, Neil Ford wrote: One does have to wonder about someone called [EMAIL PROTECTED] :-) Kinda say's it all Yeah, psy-cop I can understand, but what on earth is rograming, and why would he want to do it to psy-cops? -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our latest and greatest operating system which we couldn't be arsed to complete ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:03:20AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't get nmh to work, so I'm using OS X's Mail at the moment. Will hack tools in Perl, though.) Use Mutt :-) You'll have to re-compile ncurses (the port is b0rked :-( ), but it works lovely. Neil.
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On Thursday, April 19, 2001, at 12:12 AM, Neil Ford wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:03:20AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: (Apologies if this comes through as HTML mail - i'm trying to get mail set up on OS X, but can't get nmh to work, so I'm using OS X's Mail at the moment. Will hack tools in Perl, though.) Use Mutt :-) You'll have to re-compile ncurses (the port is b0rked :-( ), but it works lovely. Neil. I have installed mutt, but just can't warm to it. I like nmh, and using the Mail::Box family of modules, I'll rewrite those tools in Perl (sometime this summer, where there will be SpareTime). Until then, Mac Mail seems to do. It seems like a good opportunity to question taking the availability of a lot of things as a given. For example, nmh. And graphviz - just can't get it to work, and not just because of fonts. Or sendmail - I haven't really used it much, just to route my personal mail; but if certain basic tools were available in Perl, they'd run wherever Perl runs. Ah, independence. Marcel -- We are Perl. Your table will be assimilated. Your waiter will adapt to service us. Surrender your beer. Resistance is futile. -- London.pm strategy aka "embrace and extend" aka "mark and sweep"
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On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 12:20:45AM +0200, Marcel Grunauer wrote: get it to work, and not just because of fonts. Or sendmail - I haven't really used it much, just to route my personal mail; I ported exim to OS X last week, it was very easy and runs fine (qmail was a dog). Give me another day or so and there'll be a shiny maildir-supporting POP daemon... Is it just me or is OS X's sendmail broken out of the box? Apr 18 16:10:03 localhost sendmail[578]: My unqualified host name (localhost) unknown; sleeping for retry Paul
