Re: upgrading, and modules

2001-03-29 Thread Nicholas Clark

On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 06:33:40PM +0100, jo walsh wrote:
> 
> i'm about to upgrade state51's production server's perl and mod_perl to
> 5.6, and it occurs to me that 5.6.1 might be due out RSN.
> 
> question is, will i have to rebuild modules built for 5.6 so they'll work
> with 5.6.1?

I would be very surprised if you did have to if you configure with the
same options.

> if i had to rebuild modules, i'd try to justify waiting, if the wait for
> 5.6.1's not going to be more than a week or two - is that hopelessly
> optimistic? oh, it is, isn't it *sigh*

It may not be hopelessly optimistic

> i tried asking #perl but they were, um, inarticulate
> 
> any advice *much* apprec

I'd suggest that you get 5.6.1-TRIAL3 from GSAR's CPAN directory, build
that somewhere away from production, and see what happens.
Sarathy has said on p5p that there's going to be very little changed
between TRIAL3 and the real thing

Nicholas Clark
-- 
ENOJOB: http://plum.flirble.org/~nick/CV.html



Re: upgrading, and modules

2001-03-29 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, jo walsh wrote:

>
> i'm about to upgrade state51's production server's perl and mod_perl to
> 5.6, and it occurs to me that 5.6.1 might be due out RSN.
>
> question is, will i have to rebuild modules built for 5.6 so they'll work
> with 5.6.1?
> if i had to rebuild modules, i'd try to justify waiting, if the wait for
> 5.6.1's not going to be more than a week or two - is that hopelessly
> optimistic? oh, it is, isn't it *sigh*
>

I couldn't give you a date on 5.6.1 but it is unlikely to be sooner than a
week or two - however I would also say that it is unlikely to be
incompatible with 5.6.0 and should just install over the top of the
existing installation.  If you have a spare machine with 5.6.0 on then you
might just try and install one of the trial releases ( I think it is at
TRIAL3 now ) over the existing one to determine if anything will break -
this would be useful anyhow : breakages should probably be submitted as
bug reports :)   Of course if you are truly paranoid you could also do:

   perl -MCPAN -e'autobundle'

before doing the switch and then:

  perl -MCPAN -e'install "Bundle::Snapshot"'

afterwards.

I'm looking to do 5.005 -> 5.6.0 on some production machines real soon now
but its been so long now I may just wait for 5.8 :)


/J\




Re: upgrading, and modules

2001-03-29 Thread Greg Cope

jo walsh wrote:
> 
> i'm about to upgrade state51's production server's perl and mod_perl to
> 5.6, and it occurs to me that 5.6.1 might be due out RSN.
> 
> question is, will i have to rebuild modules built for 5.6 so they'll work
> with 5.6.1?
> if i had to rebuild modules, i'd try to justify waiting, if the wait for
> 5.6.1's not going to be more than a week or two - is that hopelessly
> optimistic? oh, it is, isn't it *sigh*
> 

I would say "yes" as 5.6 is not the same as 5.6.1 (i.e I assume that it
is not binarily compatible).

For an easy look at CPAN.pm's recompile method which will download and
complie all the things that need to be recomplied for you - given
enought bandwidth .

Greg


> i tried asking #perl but they were, um, inarticulate
> 
> any advice *much* apprec
> 
> jo
> 
> 
>  the Unix being hacker closest together