Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-00

2018-11-15 Thread julien.meuric
Hi, Contributor hat on, I take the opportunity mentioned by Acee to highlight some of the issues in the current version: - The I-D teaches multiple time about RFC 5088 and 5089 (while 8253 is only mentioned in the introduction): the discussed mechanism has been used multiple times, there is no

Re: [Lsr] draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-segment-routing-extensions - small change

2018-11-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Peter, I agree - it is not needed in OSPFv3 Extended LSAs. Hi Dirk, Mahendra, How will this impact your implementations? Thanks, Acee On 11/15/18, 9:48 AM, "Lsr on behalf of Peter Psenak (ppsenak)" wrote: Hi, as a part of the RtgDir review we got a comment about the usage

[Lsr] draft-ietf-ospf-ospfv3-segment-routing-extensions - small change

2018-11-15 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi, as a part of the RtgDir review we got a comment about the usage of the IA bit in the OSPFv3 Extended Prefix Range TLV (Section 5). We defined this bit for OSPFv2 originally. In OSPFv2 Extended Prefix Range TLV is carried as a top level TLV of the Extended Prefix Opaque LSA, which is not

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-00

2018-11-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Authors, Please note that you need not wait until the end of the adoption poll to address my comment and Julien's comments. Thanks, Acee On 11/15/18, 10:02 AM, "Lsr on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com" wrote: Hi, Contributor hat on, I take the opportunity mentioned by Acee

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:28:27AM +0100, Robert Raszuk wrote: > Hey Toerless, > > Please observe that DSCP based steering may be very useful vehicle for end > hosts/applications influencing how their packets are transported. > > So instead of closing that option I recommend we at least take a

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hey Toerless, Please observe that DSCP based steering may be very useful vehicle for end hosts/applications influencing how their packets are transported. So instead of closing that option I recommend we at least take a good look at what alternative mechanism exists. And btw I read Peter's note

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Toerless Eckert
Thanks, Les, Peter So... is there any opinion about creating a normative or BCP recommendation to not use DSCP to distinguish topologies/flex-algos ? Mabybe this would not be appropriate for LSR, but TSVWG, but i think it would be participants in LSR that would know if there is actually still

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Rob Shakir
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 16:07 Toerless Eckert wrote: > > And btw I read Peter's note as possibility (or invitation) to define > > algorithm which takes into account DSCP rather then a announcement that > > this is not there and it should never be. > > Sure, i am only talking about the solutions

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-00

2018-11-15 Thread Qin Wu
-邮件原件- 发件人: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 julien.meu...@orange.com 发送时间: 2018年11月15日 23:01 收件人: lsr@ietf.org 主题: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-00 Hi, Contributor

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for "IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery" (Corrected)

2018-11-15 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Authors – Reminder that you need to explicitly reply to this poll. From: Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem Date: Wednesday, November 14, 2018 at 3:02 PM To: draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support Cc: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: [Lsr] IPR Poll for "IGP extension for PCEP security capability

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-00

2018-11-15 Thread Qin Wu
Working on this. Try to figure out how to carry key name in PCED sub-TLV. It looks RFC5088 and RFC5089 doesn't allow add additional sub-TLVs. " RFC5088 No additional sub-TLVs will be added to the PCED TLV in the future. If a future application requires the advertisement of additional PCE

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+1 Rob I have seen number of MBH networks using DSCP to change forwarding - AKA PBR.. The question is really - what is here to standardize? RSVP-TE use cases mentioned by Rob (CBTS/PBTS in IOS realm) are classical examples of Policy Based Routing and as such are subject to implementation

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Robert Raszuk
Jeff, > What architecture? > PBR is a form of: > match DSCP X > set next-hop Y > needs no interoperability... That's pretty narrow view. I could say the worst possible example :) You would have to either encapsulate or apply your sample config consistently on every hop. Br. To me DSCP can

Re: [Lsr] IPR Poll for "IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery" (Corrected)

2018-11-15 Thread Qin Wu
It seems there was one relevant IPR https://patents.google.com/patent/US8127129B2/en but I am not sure it is applicable. I will consult with our IPR people to check on this. -Qin 发件人: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:a...@cisco.com] 发送时间: 2018年11月16日 11:59 收件人:

Re: [Lsr] LSR: Using DSCP for path/topology selection Q

2018-11-15 Thread Tony Li
> On Nov 15, 2018, at 8:47 PM, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > > The question is really - what is here to standardize? There’s a fine architectural BCP here: this is how we are solving problem XYZ. Please don’t break this. Tony ___ Lsr mailing list

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Poll for IGP extension for PCEP security capability support in the PCE discovery - draft-wu-lsr-pce-discovery-security-support-00

2018-11-15 Thread julien.meuric
Hi all, PCE chair hat on, I need to rectify the statement below: at this stage, PCE, as a WG, has not reach any consensus on this I-D, which has only been discussed within the LSR WG. There may be individuals involved in both WGs, but that is not a PCE WG consensus. However, I suggest that the