Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Tony Li
Hi Robert, > Just two follow up points, > > #1 - I can't stop the feeling that DROID is very IGP centric and not generic > enough. Do you think we need DROID-2 to start offloading BGP or at least stop > trashing it ? Or you think that DROID as proposed could take on day one > flowspec v2

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Tony, Just two follow up points, #1 - I can't stop the feeling that DROID is very IGP centric and not generic enough. Do you think we need DROID-2 to start offloading BGP or at least stop trashing it ? Or you think that DROID as proposed could take on day one flowspec v2 with its various

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Tony Li
Les, > Nice acronym.  Thank you. I blame the wordle craze. :) > As regards the original use case (Node Liveness), my opinion hasn’t changed. > Repackaging this in a more generic wrapper (which makes sense to me) doesn’t > alter my opinion – which is this isn’t a good way to go. This

Re: [Lsr] New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Tony Li
Hi Robert, > Very happy to see this draft. Thanks. > First question - the draft seems to be focusing on hierarchical IGPs and is > clearly driven by liveness propagation discussion. The main problem in networking is scale. If you haven’t dealt with scale, you haven’t solved the

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Tony – Nice acronym.  As regards the original use case (Node Liveness), my opinion hasn’t changed. Repackaging this in a more generic wrapper (which makes sense to me) doesn’t alter my opinion – which is this isn’t a good way to go. As regards the new use case (Capabilities), I think what

Re: [Lsr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Tony, Very happy to see this draft. First question - the draft seems to be focusing on hierarchical IGPs and is clearly driven by liveness propagation discussion. But the motivation of offloading non routing information from IGPs (and/or BGP) is also full applicable to non hierarchical IGPs

[Lsr] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-li-lsr-droid-00.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Tony Li
Hi all, As discussed during our last meeting, the Node Liveness Protocol could be generalized to support arbitrary data. I’ve done that work, turning it into a distributed object store. In particular, node capabilities are now a generic example of the use of this mechanism. Node Liveness is

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
In the MIB, the base types don't include the zone - https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4001.txt It was very unfortunate that the YANG IP addresses included the zone in the base types. Tom - I think it would be hard to find an author where including the zone was a conscious decision. Thanks, Acee

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-04 Thread tom petch
From: Acee Lindem (acee) Sent: 04 April 2022 15:58 Hi Tom, +Juergen, netmod WG, I think the question you ought to be asking is whether the base IPv4 and IPv6 address types should be modified to NOT include the zone and the zone versions should be added as a separate YANG type. The RFC 6991

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-04 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Tom, +Juergen, netmod WG, I think the question you ought to be asking is whether the base IPv4 and IPv6 address types should be modified to NOT include the zone and the zone versions should be added as a separate YANG type. The RFC 6991 is under revision now:

Re: [Lsr] I-D Action: draft-ietf-lsr-ospfv3-extended-lsa-yang-10.txt

2022-04-04 Thread tom petch
I assume that this is a refresh while waiting for ospf.yang to wind its way through the system I wonder if the ip address should be the no-zone variant from RFC6991 - I never know the answer to that so keep asking. Some time the contact needs updating to https://datatracker and the TLP to