[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi,Acee: Please read https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement-12#section-7 before making misguide assertions: “The advertisement of PUAM message should only last one configurable period to allow the services that run on the failure prefixes are

[Lsr] 答复: Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Aijun Wang
Hi, Les: Please do not mislead the experts within the LSR. Detail replies are inline below. Best Regards Aijun Wang China Telecom 发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) 发送时间: 2023年8月31日 22:49 收件人: Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ;

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-04

2023-08-31 Thread Acee Lindem
Hi Les, > On Aug 31, 2023, at 4:39 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) > wrote: > > Acee - > From: Acee Lindem > Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 10:33 AM > To: Acee Lindem > Cc: lsr ; draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flood...@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Working Group Last Call for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - >

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Last Call for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-04

2023-08-31 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Acee - From: Acee Lindem Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 10:33 AM To: Acee Lindem Cc: lsr ; draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flood...@ietf.org Subject: Re: Working Group Last Call for "IS-IS Fast Flooding" - draft-ietf-lsr-isis-fast-flooding-04 I support publication. I’ve done the shepherds review

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-ureach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Acee Lindem
> On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:32, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Hi Acee, > >> In any case, one will need to update the signaling routers and the routers >> acting on the signal. > > I guess this is clear to all. > >> Additionally, your request for the adoption was that the draft have a >> stronger

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Acee, In any case, one will need to update the signaling routers and the routers > acting on the signal. I guess this is clear to all. Additionally, your request for the adoption was that the draft have a > stronger statement about the mechanism being used for solely for signaling > for

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Acee Lindem
Hi Robert, > On Aug 31, 2023, at 4:18 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Hi Les, > > > But existing implementations will NOT ignore a prefix reachability > > advertisement just because > > it has a source Router ID set to 0 as > > draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement defines. > > True,

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Zhibo – [Zhibo:] draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement doesn`t use “Router ID = 0” to implement backward compatibility. It only provides two options: capability negotiation and MAX metric. When capability negotiation changes, there is no requirement to update the MAX metric value. It

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
Peter, > > I am not sure what harm would it make to start WG adoption call on both > > drafts and see the results. > > > > So far I am not seeing strong and uniform adoption support for either > > one :) > > I hope you are not serious. Having two different ways of signalling the > same thing in

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 31/08/2023 01:18, Robert Raszuk wrote: *Hi Les,* But existing implementations will NOT ignore a prefix reachability advertisement just because it has a source Router ID set to 0 as draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement defines. True, but let's do not forget the bigger

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Robert, We are on the same page. What I said was “summarize the common parts, and highlight their differences”. -Jie From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:rob...@raszuk.net] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 5:36 PM To: Dongjie (Jimmy) Cc: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ;

[Lsr] Question on draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce

2023-08-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Peter & Les, I was looking at the draft, but failed to find any text which would be a normative MUST and would state that only advertisers of a given summary are allowed to inject specific UPAs covered by those summaries. If it comes from some other node it MUST be dropped. I think this is

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Peter Psenak
Robert, On 31/08/2023 02:36, Robert Raszuk wrote:   it would be helpful to summarize the common parts of the two solutions, Actually IMO it would be much more helpful to summarise differences of both solutions not common parts. please read both drafts and you would easily get the

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
> it would be helpful to summarize the common parts of the two solutions, Actually IMO it would be much more helpful to summarise differences of both solutions not common parts. Thx, r. On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 11:23 AM Dongjie (Jimmy) wrote: > Hi Les and Robert, > > > > Please see some

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Huzhibo
From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:ginsberg=40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 10:57 AM To: Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; linchangwang ; Acee Lindem ; lsr Cc: draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-annou...@ietf.org Subject: RE: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Dongjie (Jimmy)
Hi Les and Robert, Please see some comments inline: From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Robert Raszuk Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:19 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: Huzhibo ; Peter Psenak (ppsenak) ; linchangwang ; Acee Lindem ; lsr ;

Re: [Lsr] Working Group Adoption of "IGP Unreachable Prefix Announcement" - draft-ppsenak-lsr-igp-unreach-prefix-announce-04

2023-08-31 Thread Robert Raszuk
*Hi Les,* > But existing implementations will NOT ignore a prefix reachability advertisement just because > it has a source Router ID set to 0 as > draft-wang-lsr-prefix-unreachable-annoucement defines. True, but let's do not forget the bigger picture here. The dst is already covered by summary