Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Shraddha Hegde
I agree, the granularity would depend on the feature/RFC. Another aspect I have seen in TLV implementations is, Receiving side processing is supported But sending side isn’t. It may be useful to introduce this sending support/receiving support notion in the Model. Rgds Shraddha Juniper

Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Acee – Thanx for the comments – inline. From: Acee Lindem Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 2:33 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: Loa Andersson ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang Speaking as a WG contributor: Hi Les, I think a simpler name is better

Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Yingzhen Qu
Speaking as a co-author of the draft, I'm open to name suggestions. As for granularity, I'd say this really varies per RFC/feature. We want to make it useful for operators but not too tedious to implement. Realistically, we won't be able to have modules for all existing RFCs, so it's more about

Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Tony Li
Hi Acee, I concur that a simpler name is better and am fine with what you propose. Or pretty much anything other than ‘PICS’. :-) I disagree that feature level granularity is sufficient. Example: suppose an implementation supports traffic engineering. Is that sufficient for an operator? Is

Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Acee Lindem
Speaking as a WG contributor: Hi Les, I think a simpler name is better - perhaps ietf-isis-feature-support.yang with YANG prefix isis-fs would be better. Which brings me to my next and more important point… Like carbon neutrality, everyone at the LSR WG meeting who had an opinion thought

Re: [Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Loa - I agree with you that simply "IS-IS Support" may not be the best choice. Although, the meeting minutes have not yet been posted, as I recall my response to Tony Li's suggestion of "IS-IS Support" was "Yes - something like that." The draft authors have not yet discussed this - but we will

Re: [Lsr] draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv and "backwards compatibility"

2023-11-16 Thread bruno . decraene
Les, Thanks for the reply. Please see inline [Bruno2] Orange Restricted From: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 5:32 PM To: DECRAENE Bruno INNOV/NET ; Christian Hopps Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: RE: draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv and "backwards compatibility" Bruno –

Re: [Lsr] draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv and "backwards compatibility"

2023-11-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Bruno – Thanx for the thoughtful comments. Please see responses inline. From: bruno.decra...@orange.com Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2023 6:40 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; Christian Hopps Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: RE: draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv and "backwards compatibility" Les, all

Re: [Lsr] draft-pkaneria-lsr-multi-tlv and "backwards compatibility"

2023-11-16 Thread bruno . decraene
Les, all Please see my 2 cents (operator's feedback) inline [Bruno] (to be clear, I'm not doing any comparison with any other proposal) Orange Restricted From: Lsr On Behalf Of Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 4:13 PM To: Christian Hopps Cc: lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re:

[Lsr] Question on draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang

2023-11-16 Thread Loa Andersson
Working Group, During the presentation of draft-qgp-lsr-isis-pics-yang there was a rather strong opposition in the chat against using the ISO-term "PICS" in an IETF document. I think the term "Support" was suggested (excuse me if I missed something), but I'm not that impressed, and would