Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-22 Thread Yingzhen Qu
berg (ginsberg) > *发送时间:* 2024年1月19日 0:51 > *收件人:* Aijun Wang > *抄送:* 'Christian Hopps' ; 'Huzhibo' ; > 'Acee Lindem' ; 'Yingzhen Qu' < > yingzhen.i...@gmail.com>; lsr@ietf.org > *主题:* Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes > (01/05/2024 -

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-18 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
' ; 'Huzhibo' ; 'Acee Lindem' ; 'Yingzhen Qu' ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: 答复: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, Les: 发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org<mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org> [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Les Ginsberg (gi

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-17 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Aijun - From: Aijun Wang Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:56 PM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) Cc: Christian Hopps ; Huzhibo ; Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, Les: Let’s keep

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-17 Thread Robert Raszuk
; > > > *From:* Aijun Wang > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:18 AM > *To:* Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; 'Christian Hopps' < > cho...@chopps.org>; 'Huzhibo' > *Cc:* 'Acee Lindem' ; 'Yingzhen Qu' < > yingzhen.i...@gmail.com>; lsr@ietf.org > *Subject:* 答复: [L

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-16 Thread Aijun Wang
inline.   From: Aijun Wang Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:18 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; 'Christian Hopps' ; 'Huzhibo' Cc: 'Acee Lindem' ; 'Yingzhen Qu' ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: 答复: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)   Hi, Les

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Aijun – Please see inline. From: Aijun Wang Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 12:18 AM To: Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) ; 'Christian Hopps' ; 'Huzhibo' Cc: 'Acee Lindem' ; 'Yingzhen Qu' ; lsr@ietf.org Subject: 答复: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Acee Lindem
operator to rebuild the complex inter-as topology. >>>>> >>>>> The proposed protocol extension in this draft can assist the operator >>>>> to overcome the above obstacles. >>>> >>>> [As WG member] >>>> >>>> Thi

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Yingzhen Qu
for a new mechanism. > > No fact-based argument has been made to justify reconsideration of WG > adoption. > > I hope when people post their opinions, that they consider the facts. > > Les > > > -Original Message- > > From: Lsr On Behalf Of Christian Ho

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread John Drake
nal Message- > From: Lsr On Behalf Of Christian Hopps > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:17 AM > To: Huzhibo > Cc: Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu > ; lsr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes > (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) >

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
istian Hopps > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 2:17 AM > To: Huzhibo > Cc: Acee Lindem ; Yingzhen Qu > ; lsr@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes > (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) > > [As WG Co-Chair] > > Hi Folks, > &g

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Aijun Wang
ready in the first failed adoption call. >>> >>> [As co-char] >>> >>> This second call for adoption indicated that people should go and read the >>> first failed adoption call and the ton of email it generated. Repeating the >>> same points found t

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Christian Hopps
he ton of email it generated. Repeating the >> same points found technically lacking the first time is unproductive and >> will not positively influence rough consensus a second time just b/c they >> are being repeated over and over. >> >> Thanks, >>

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Aijun Wang
second time just b/c they are > being repeated over and over. > > Thanks, > Chris. > > >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Liyan >> >> >> 邮件原文---- >> 发件人:Yingzhen Qu >>收件人:lsr ,lsr-chairs >>抄 送: (无

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Christian Hopps
, Liyan 邮件原文 发件人:Yingzhen Qu 收件人:lsr ,lsr-chairs 抄 送: (无) 发送时间:2024-01-06 08:23:00 主题:[Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/ 2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Christian Hopps
inamobile.com From: Yingzhen Qu Date: 2024-01-06 08:23 To: lsr; lsr-chairs Subject: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread Liyan Gong
the operator to overcome the above obstacles. Best Regards, Liyan 邮件原文发件人:Yingzhen Qu 收件人:lsr ,lsr-chairs 抄 送: (无)发送时间:2024-01-06 08:23:00主题:[Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes(01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)Hi,This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-15 Thread duzongp...@foxmail.com
Zongpeng Du duzongp...@foxmail.com & duzongp...@chinamobile.com From: Yingzhen Qu Date: 2024-01-06 08:23 To: lsr; lsr-chairs Subject: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following d

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-14 Thread Huaimo Chen
Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes/ Please indicate your support or objections by January 19th, 2024. Authors

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-12 Thread 胖胖
Hi all, I have reviewed the draft,and support its adoption. I think the proposed protocol extension can simplify significantly the recovery and management of inter-AS topology, and also facilitate the optimal forwarding path selection based on the attributes of stub links. Best regards

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-10 Thread Wei Wang
Hi all, I support the adoption of this draft. This solution is useful for the transmission of the information of stub link, which enables BGP-LS to not only collect the topology information of individual ASes, but also collect the connection information between different ASes. And this

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-10 Thread Christian Hopps
g to solve? Thanks Zhibo Hu From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Acee Lindem Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 3:03 AM To: Yingzhen Qu Cc: lsr Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Speaking as WG member: I don

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-10 Thread Huzhibo
as required by RFC 9346. Do you have any suggestions for the problems this article is trying to solve? Thanks Zhibo Hu From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Acee Lindem Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 3:03 AM To: Yingzhen Qu Cc: lsr Subject: Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-09 Thread Gyan Mishra
I support WG adoption. Gyan On Fri, Jan 5, 2024 at 7:23 PM Yingzhen Qu wrote: > Hi, > > This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following draft: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes/ > > Please indicate your support or objections by January 19th, 2024.

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-09 Thread Peter Psenak
Hi, I don't believe any of what is being proposed in the draft is necessary. There are existing mechanism available to advertise an inter-AS link. Using the prefix advertisement to pair the two ends of the inter-AS link is a bad idea IMHO. There are better ways of doing it - e.g.

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
on. Les From: Lsr On Behalf Of Yingzhen Qu Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 4:23 PM To: lsr ; lsr-chairs Subject: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024) Hi, This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following draft: https

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread John Drake
I think Acee is correct On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 11:03:17 AM PST, Acee Lindem wrote: Speaking as WG member: I don’t support adoption of this draft.  First of all, I think the basic premise of the draft is flawed in that a link is advertised as a stub and, from that, one can

Re: [Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-08 Thread Acee Lindem
Speaking as WG member: I don’t support adoption of this draft. First of all, I think the basic premise of the draft is flawed in that a link is advertised as a stub and, from that, one can deduce uses of the link. Why not just advertise what is being deduced? Second, I don’t think the draft

[Lsr] WG Adoption Call - draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes (01/05/2024 - 01/19/2024)

2024-01-05 Thread Yingzhen Qu
Hi, This begins a 2 week WG Adoption Call for the following draft: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-wang-lsr-stub-link-attributes/ Please indicate your support or objections by January 19th, 2024. Authors, please respond to the list indicating whether you are aware of any IPR that applies