Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-09-27 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Authors, The LSR Working Group Adoption Call has ended and there is sufficient support and interest in working on this draft here in LSR. Please republish the draft as draft-ietf-lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy-00.txt as we agreed during the discussion initiated by Robert Raszuk during the adoption

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-26 Thread Huaimo Chen
onday, August 19, 2019 8:37 AM To: Huaimo Chen mailto:huaimo.c...@futurewei.com>> Cc: lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>; Acee Lindem (acee) mailto:a...@cisco.com>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hi

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-19 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
Huaimo – Thanx for your support. A few additional comments on top of Tony’s remarks. Inline. From: Lsr On Behalf Of tony...@tony.li Sent: Monday, August 19, 2019 8:37 AM To: Huaimo Chen Cc: lsr@ietf.org; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarc

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-19 Thread tony . li
Hi Huaimo, > Support and have the following comments: Thank you for your support and comments. > It seems not necessary to have 8 levels of hierarchies. 3 or at most 4 levels > of hierarchies should be enough. IS-IS with 3 levels of hierarchies may > support a network with 1k*1k*1k nodes,

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-19 Thread Robert Raszuk
Hi Huaimo, Ad 1 - Let me observe that constructing hierarchy is not always driven by number of nodes in a given level can safely support. One could indeed build a global flat link state network in single level/area if only looking at number of nodes. But in number of cases benefits from hierarchy

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-19 Thread Huaimo Chen
Support and have the following comments: 1. It seems not necessary to have 8 levels of hierarchies. 3 or at most 4 levels of hierarchies should be enough. IS-IS with 3 levels of hierarchies may support a network with 1k*1k*1k nodes, which is about 10^9 = 1 billion nodes. IS-IS with 4

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-16 Thread tony . li
Hi Robert, > Of course the objective of the draft is clear and I do not think anyone is > questioning that. There was however topic of data and control plane > congruence requirement and I think we all agreed by now that this is rather > required in link state protocol as it is defined

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-16 Thread Robert Raszuk
> *Cc:* lsr@ietf.org; Aijun Wang ; Robert Raszuk > > *Subject:* Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical > IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 > > > > > > Hi Aijun, > > > > Les kindly points out that what I’ve sugges

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-16 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
@ietf.org; Aijun Wang ; Robert Raszuk Subject: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 Hi Aijun, Les kindly points out that what I’ve suggested here is completely non-standard and requires multiple IS-IS instances. Tony

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-16 Thread tony . li
Hi Aijun, Les kindly points out that what I’ve suggested here is completely non-standard and requires multiple IS-IS instances. Tony > On Aug 16, 2019, at 9:03 AM, tony...@tony.li wrote: > > Hi Aijun, > >> If, as you stated, we connect R1 and R7 via one link(although we will not >> do

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-16 Thread Andrew Gray
Support. > On Aug 12, 2019, at 8:33 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > This begins a two week LSR Working Group Adoption Poll for the "Hierarchical > IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01. The poll will end at 12:00 > AM UTC on August 27th, 2019. Please indicate your support of

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-16 Thread tony . li
Hi Aijun, > If, as you stated, we connect R1 and R7 via one link(although we will not do > so, if we design the network hierarchically), how you flood the link > information hierarchically but let the traffic between the two connected L1 > area bypass the L2 area? The link between R1 and R7

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-15 Thread tony . li
Hi Robert, > > The hierarchical arrangement of the control plane does NOT imply that the > > data plane is necessarily hierarchical. > > Since Aijun posted his question I was trying to think of such model, but > failed. > > While it is easy to envision this with DV protocols say BGP - do

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-14 Thread Simone.Colombo
@ietf.org; Tony Li ; Acee Lindem (acee) Subject: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 +1 Cheers, Jeff On Aug 13, 2019, 8:07 AM -0700, Robert Raszuk , wrote: > lsr-isis-exte

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Support Regards, Jeff > On Aug 13, 2019, at 13:18, Jeff Tantsura wrote: > > +1 > > Cheers, > Jeff >> On Aug 13, 2019, 8:07 AM -0700, Robert Raszuk , wrote: >> > lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy >> >> Sounds great ! >> >> ___ >> Lsr mailing list >>

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Xiejingrong
Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 +1 Cheers, Jeff On Aug 13, 2019, 8:07 AM -0700, Robert Raszuk mailto:rob...@raszuk.net>>, wrote: > lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy Sounds great ! ___ Lsr mailin

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Sarah Chen
Support! Thanks, Sarah On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:19 PM Jeff Tantsura wrote: > +1 > > Cheers, > Jeff > On Aug 13, 2019, 8:07 AM -0700, Robert Raszuk , wrote: > > > lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy > > Sounds great ! > > ___ > Lsr mailing list >

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+1 Cheers, Jeff On Aug 13, 2019, 8:07 AM -0700, Robert Raszuk , wrote: > > lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy > >  Sounds great ! > > ___ > Lsr mailing list > Lsr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
WFM… From: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 11:04 AM To: Acee Lindem , Robert Raszuk , Tony Li Cc: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: RE: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-is

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
> lsr-isis-extended-hierarchy Sounds great ! ___ Lsr mailing list Lsr@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/lsr

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
;lsr@ietf.org<mailto:lsr@ietf.org>" mailto:lsr@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 > What would you suggest? How about: draft-ietf-lsr-n-level-isis-00 ? I don’t like this – if we are

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
From: Robert Raszuk Date: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 10:49 AM To: Tony Li Cc: Acee Lindem , "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 > What would you suggest? How about: draf

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
> What would you suggest? How about: draft-ietf-lsr-n-level-isis-00 ? r. On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 4:42 PM wrote: > > Robert, > > Thank you for your support. What would you suggest? > > Tony > > > On Aug 13, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Support. > > However assuming the draft

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread tony . li
Robert, Thank you for your support. What would you suggest? Tony > On Aug 13, 2019, at 6:40 AM, Robert Raszuk wrote: > > Support. > > However assuming the draft will reach rough consensus of support I do > recommend to change the title during the conversion to WG document. ISIS is >

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Robert Raszuk
Support. However assuming the draft will reach rough consensus of support I do recommend to change the title during the conversion to WG document. ISIS is already hierarchical today as even the abstract of the draft clearly says. Thx, R. On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 11:57 PM Acee Lindem (acee)

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-13 Thread Susan Hares
Support. Susan Hares From: Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem Date: Monday, August 12, 2019 at 5:58 PM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 This begins a two week LSR Working Group Adoption

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-12 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Speaking as WG member: Support adoptions. Thanks, Acee From: Lsr on behalf of Acee Lindem Date: Monday, August 12, 2019 at 5:58 PM To: "lsr@ietf.org" Subject: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01 This begins a two week LSR

Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

2019-08-12 Thread tony . li
Support as co-author. T > On Aug 12, 2019, at 7:33 AM, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > > This begins a two week LSR Working Group Adoption Poll for the "Hierarchical > IS-IS" - draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01. The poll will end at 12:00 > AM UTC on August 27th, 2019. Please indicate