Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Jimen Ching
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: >I don't think you understand the seriousness of this issue. As I >mentioned in my very first post, RoadRunner changed the host name of MY >computer without my permission. Ok Wayne, I'll submit. There are two issues here. First, your friend had trouble

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Dustin Cross
Wayne, WRONG! Your rights have not been violated. You are using software that askes your internet service provider for information. Your service provider gives you all of the information it has to offer. You are asking for something and then crying when you get it. Road Runner is not invading

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Charles Lockhart
Darned tootin' (totally unsure what that means). I say vote with your wallet and cancel their service. Go Team! -Charles, who wishes everybody would quit using RR and leave all the bandwidth to him. On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > You seem to have totally ignored the fact that it

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
You seem to have totally ignored the fact that it is my right that is being breached, my computer that is being invaded. Of course, I have to 'warn" you that I am now speaking as a politician. Dustin Cross wrote: Wayne, Road Runner has always assigned hostnames to all of their DHCP client

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Dustin Cross
Wayne, Road Runner has always assigned hostnames to all of their DHCP clients and so does every other ISP that uses DHCP that I know of. This is standard practice and is how they track the systems on their network. You can override this functionality, but it sounds like your problem is with a Re

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Again, most discussions seem to have missed my point that this is not a technical issue, but something of a much broader significance. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something in context here but I do not believe this is some conspiracy. Setting a hostname is something normal in

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting a hostname is something normal in DHCP operation. It is a configuration option on a DHCP server and overrideable option on a DHCP client. I agree. There is nothing wrong with dhcp having this capability, but we have a very serious privacy breach when an (

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't think you understand the seriousness of this issue. As I mentioned in my very first post, RoadRunner changed the host name of MY computer without my permission. (As a result, I was unable to load my printer driver even as a root.) The succeess of internet age depends on trust, i.e.,

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread yuser
I may have missed something in context here but I do not believe this is some conspiracy. Setting a hostname is something normal in DHCP operation. It is a configuration option on a DHCP server and overrideable option on a DHCP client. This option is useful if you need it but can be equally a

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Jimen Ching
>Vince Hoang wrote: >>Would anyone be willing to share privately or publicly how this is done? On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: >I don't like you tone. Taking something out of context (in this case, >comment within a comment, even though it is my own comment) is a very >rude and very ch

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 05:09:42PM -1000, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > I don't like you tone. Taking something out of context (in this case, > comment within a comment, even though it is my own comment) is a very > rude and very childish behavior. Another misunderstanding I suppose. I'll take it off

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't like you tone. Taking something out of context (in this case, comment within a comment, even though it is my own comment) is a very rude and very childish behavior. Vince Hoang wrote: Would anyone be willing to share privately or publicly how this is done? Thanks, -Vince ___

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Changing our own config is no problem. But the main issue is, should we allow a public utility type dhcp to change our hostname? whenever wrote: Since RH 7.2 it changes my hostname, so I alway start dhcpcd with the -h option: dhcpcd -h myhostname eth1 add -R if you don't want it to over writ

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 04:36:40PM -1000, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > "It appears that this particular RR router is doing what it is > NOT supposed to do (trying to take control of the computer but > leaving no host address; and believe me, we have reformatted > the HD several times.) Would anyone be

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread whenever
Since RH 7.2 it changes my hostname, so I alway start dhcpcd with the -h option: dhcpcd -h myhostname eth1 add -R if you don't want it to over write your /etc/resolv.conf (I use my own cache DNS)

Re: [luau] Xandros (Redhat)

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I think Linux has developed to such a stage that a lot of users will claim that the one distro that they use is the best since sliced bread. On Xandros, if you need those features that I mentioned, then it is the best distro (and the time you have to spend to, say, get Samba to work the way as

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
The following is the comment that I sent to a kind LUAU member who responded to my question in private. I believe the situation is in a total mess (and I envy those Windows cable modem users who are being totally screwed up without an opportunity to realize it). More specifically, as per Geor

Re: [luau] techsomething radio show

2002-12-23 Thread tburns
> If we can put together a >compelling idea for an episode, I'm >fairly confident they would be open to >it. How about something on the HOSEF or LTSP/Hawaii Linux for Schools Project? How can they resist that stuff? One thing I think we'd like to avoid is sounding too confontational about Wi

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Brian Chee
hdon't forget that somewhere in the process the dhcp server does a mac address lookup for machine specific config items. The cool part is that my VOIP phones do a dhcp request and get fed to them a bootserver and bootfile config item. This stuff then points them to my call manager for upgr

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Ray Strode
I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was subsequently concluded that this was the source of all the problems (including inability to install printer driver, etc.) Not sure why it's causing so many probl

Re: [luau] Xandros (Redhat)

2002-12-23 Thread Joe Linux
So are you saying Xandros is a good thing? Are you recommending that we purchase a copy? Even though RedHat has problems, you prefer it over other distributions. Do you think Xandros is superior to Libranet, or Mandrake? Also I thought Xandros cost $99.00. W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Xandros au

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Joe Linux
One of the reasons I never continued to use RedHat is it always says it can't find the "hostname" when I try to use Gnome. I have never had that problem with any other Linux distribution. W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Thanks Warren. What's bothering me is that I have installed dozens of Red Hat 8 w

Re: [luau] techsomething radio show

2002-12-23 Thread Joe Linux
The Harris administration also brought us "traffic claming" which essentially is the practice of making city streets functionally unusable by erecting multitudes of barricades and hazardous obstructions that strip the tires off of unsuspecting motorists' vehicles. Ho'ala Greevy wrote: it i

Re: [luau] Xandros (Redhat)

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Xandros automatically discovers Windows Network domains and workgroups, and then manages authentication credentials required to access network resources. It also provides support for Windows domain users that are logging in when your machine joins the domain, and allows its users to access file

Re: [luau] December 2002 Netcraft Web Server Survey

2002-12-23 Thread Joe Linux
Looks like M$ is becoming the alternative O$. http://www.netcraft.com/survey/ Top Developers Developer November 2002 Percent December 2002 Percent Change Apache 21699320 60.80 22045350 62.02 1.22 Microso

Re: [luau] Xandros (Redhat)

2002-12-23 Thread Joe Linux
Maybe someone in the Club will buy Xandros, and we can see it in action. However, it would have to run ICE for me to be happy, but what is so amazing about the Xandros file manager? I use "konqueror" in conjunction with ICE and find it just fine. "mc" is also a very good file manager in many

[luau] Red Hat 8.0.92 beta released

2002-12-23 Thread Warren Togami
You can grab this at one of our two Hawaii mirrors, or any from the long list below: University of Hawaii (Open to the Public): ftp://videl.ics.hawaii.edu/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/phoebe/ Oceanic Cable (only to Hawaii Roadrunner): ftp://mplug.oceanic.com/mirrors/redhat/linux/beta/phoebe/ ===

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 01:24:05AM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > That's the default behavior of DHCP in Red Hat 8.0. It is > probably best to override that with a set hostname when you use > DHCP. However, I wasn't aware that changing hostnames like that > would cause so many problems for those ser

[luau] Linux servers growing revenue by 65 percent

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
http://www.wpuniverse.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7934 "Gartner's survey of the global server market in the third quarter of 2002 showed Linux servers growing revenue by 65 percent from 2001. http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupd...2902165,00.html

Re: [luau] help with rm

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
change -exec to -ok, then you will be prompted before the comman rm is executed. Ray Strode wrote: Assuming your Windows/VFAT partition is /dev/hda1, and is mounted on /mnt/hda1, as root, type: cd /mnt/hda1 find . -type f -name "*.eml" -exec rm -f {} \; That should remove all the fil

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Thanks Warren. What's bothering me is that I have installed dozens of Red Hat 8 with DHCP, and the hostname was always localhost. Warren Togami wrote: W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I was helping one of my partners installing Red Hat 8.0. This is a stand-alone machine with RR cable modem. I notic

Re: [luau] help with rm

2002-12-23 Thread Ray Strode
Assuming your Windows/VFAT partition is /dev/hda1, and is mounted on /mnt/hda1, as root, type: cd /mnt/hda1 find . -type f -name "*.eml" -exec rm -f {} \; That should remove all the files under a directory that ends with the .eml extension. Just a warning. As Vince said, it will dele

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Warren Togami
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I was helping one of my partners installing Red Hat 8.0. This is a stand-alone machine with RR cable modem. I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was subsequently concluded that

[luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I was helping one of my partners installing Red Hat 8.0. This is a stand-alone machine with RR cable modem. I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was subsequently concluded that this was the source of a

Re: [luau] techsomething radio show

2002-12-23 Thread Ho'ala Greevy
I know the folks who produce this show. If we can put together a compelling idea for an episode, I'm fairly confident they would be open to it. Indeed, they have the best intentions but alas, they are big fans of Redmond. I suggested to them in the past a dialogue on reasons why that despite it s