Further to yesterday's (or Friday's, I forget which) discussion, are
sites like Slashdot, Digg and reddit.com not-free?
They're all ad-supported.
Jim
--- Maddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Free meaning no pay. Free does not mean that it is subsidized
by ads. My
point in the last go around was that someone has to pay
somewhere. Ad
supported means that advertisers will pay up front and
eventually they will
have to see a return. If they do
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From: Matt Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I sent it to you. If anyone else wants it send me an email and I will
forward the release to you.
MD
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On 7/1/06
http://tinyurl.com/ql4yl
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From: Matt Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 7/1/06, Maddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Did you guys see the press release this week from
Earthlink has already said that its only free for the first year.
This doesn't mean that Google couldn't come in an subsidize some
level of access, a la San Francisco.
However, there is already free wireless in Waikiki. (via Shakanet),
and out here at the Ko'olina the wireless (and
From shakanet's website
Usage can be purchased in daily, or monthly plans This doesn't sound too
free to me.
MD
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income stream? It seems to me they have
Waikiki blanketed with for pay wireless already.
MD
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Earthlink has already
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Earthlink has already said that its only free for the first year.This
doesn't mean that Google couldn't come in an subsidize some level of
access, a la San Francisco.
However, there is already
--- Maddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a business model. As long as the hotels are densly
covering Waikiki
this model is going to require shakanet or whoever else to
determine where
something was bought and to contribute a share to the hotels.
I'd like to
see truly free, not ad
ad revenue this will be the proverbial
brick wall they will need to hurdle.
MD
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--- Maddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
oops, got the numbers backwards. Should %5.5 Million for Anaheim and $10
Million for Philly.
MD
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Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:26 PM
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That was my point. I
is ready (points to self...)
In my conversations with Nam, its the kiosks that are the core of
their revenue.
Jim
MD
- Original Message - From: Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org
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Julian,
My take is that he's trying to be right at all costs.
And lets all remember, 'maddog' said never.
Jim
On Jul 1, 2006, at 1:07 PM, Julian Yap wrote:
--- Maddog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is a business model. As long as the hotels are densly
covering Waikiki
this model is going to
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From: Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 4:11 PM
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On Jul 1, 2006, at 12:16 PM, Maddog wrote:
I stand corrected. Wireless Waikiki.org has a coverage map
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