Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-27 Thread Joe Linux
You are a total Ass and a disgrace to the Linux Community. Warren Togami wrote: Nobody cares. You clearly have not been reading a word we said, like usual. Joe Linux wrote: Today I'm still [EMAIL PROTECTED] jl]$ W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Red Hat: "Your computer is being controlled by a

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-26 Thread Warren Togami
Nobody cares. You clearly have not been reading a word we said, like usual. Joe Linux wrote: Today I'm still [EMAIL PROTECTED] jl]$ W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Red Hat: "Your computer is being controlled by a server . . ." Joe Linux previously wrote: Respectfully yours, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-26 Thread Joe Linux
Today I'm still [EMAIL PROTECTED] jl]$ W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Red Hat: "Your computer is being controlled by a server . . ." Joe Linux previously wrote: Respectfully yours, [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]#

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-25 Thread Warren Togami
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I don't think you understand the seriousness of this issue. As I mentioned in my very first post, RoadRunner changed the host name of MY computer without my permission. (As a result, I was unable to load my printer driver even as a root.) The succeess of internet age de

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread Vince Hoang
On Tue, Dec 24, 2002 at 08:44:56PM -1000, Eric Hattemer wrote: > I concur 100%. There's an IP standard of sorts that says that > all IP addresses should have a hostname attached. I only wish it were a standard. Most of the ISPs I run into do not have all their assigned IP space resolvable. > Ther

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread Eric Hattemer
ure that your domain and your default dns suffixes search order are set to hawaii.rr.com, and that might help fix your problems. -Eric Hattemer - Original Message - From: "Dustin Cross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread Dustin Cross
uh, that was supposed to be "nothing into something" :) > make something into nothing.

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread Dustin Cross
Wayne, You do not have a permenant hostname. The IP address has a permenant hostname in DNS. You have a temporary IP address that is almost never changed. Would you please go read about IP addresses, dhcp, and DNS so that you can speak inteligbly on the subject and stop trying to make something

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
It appears that I never had this problem because I either was running Windows or always had an external firewall. In this regard, I think Red Hat is actually doing us a big favor. An external firewall is a must if you use a broadband connection. With Windows, you probably will never receive

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I thought about posting a comment asking if anyone in this forum has ever used RedHat 8.0 on a machine with RoadRunner without an external firewall, but decided against it, as doing this would have been too tasteless, even to someone as gross as I. I had a dhcp server installed at home a few y

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread Joe Linux
I have Earthlink Cable which still comes on Oceanic lines and the host name changes all the time. It just so happens that Mandrake doesn't care, but Redhat does. I know the members of Denver Linux Club (CLUE) were discussing the issue at some length during an install fest. Everyone seems to k

RE: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-24 Thread Kevin Goad
-Original Message- It's not only Redhat that changes the Hostname. I used to have that problem when I first installed Mandrake 8.0 until I manually entered my own hostname. To even the score I recall playing around with snort one time and sniffing packets from my XP box when I came across

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Jimen Ching
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: >I don't think you understand the seriousness of this issue. As I >mentioned in my very first post, RoadRunner changed the host name of MY >computer without my permission. Ok Wayne, I'll submit. There are two issues here. First, your friend had trouble

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Dustin Cross
Wayne, WRONG! Your rights have not been violated. You are using software that askes your internet service provider for information. Your service provider gives you all of the information it has to offer. You are asking for something and then crying when you get it. Road Runner is not invading

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Charles Lockhart
Darned tootin' (totally unsure what that means). I say vote with your wallet and cancel their service. Go Team! -Charles, who wishes everybody would quit using RR and leave all the bandwidth to him. On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > You seem to have totally ignored the fact that it

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
You seem to have totally ignored the fact that it is my right that is being breached, my computer that is being invaded. Of course, I have to 'warn" you that I am now speaking as a politician. Dustin Cross wrote: Wayne, Road Runner has always assigned hostnames to all of their DHCP client

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Dustin Cross
Wayne, Road Runner has always assigned hostnames to all of their DHCP clients and so does every other ISP that uses DHCP that I know of. This is standard practice and is how they track the systems on their network. You can override this functionality, but it sounds like your problem is with a Re

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Again, most discussions seem to have missed my point that this is not a technical issue, but something of a much broader significance. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I may have missed something in context here but I do not believe this is some conspiracy. Setting a hostname is something normal in

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Setting a hostname is something normal in DHCP operation. It is a configuration option on a DHCP server and overrideable option on a DHCP client. I agree. There is nothing wrong with dhcp having this capability, but we have a very serious privacy breach when an (

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't think you understand the seriousness of this issue. As I mentioned in my very first post, RoadRunner changed the host name of MY computer without my permission. (As a result, I was unable to load my printer driver even as a root.) The succeess of internet age depends on trust, i.e.,

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread yuser
I may have missed something in context here but I do not believe this is some conspiracy. Setting a hostname is something normal in DHCP operation. It is a configuration option on a DHCP server and overrideable option on a DHCP client. This option is useful if you need it but can be equally a

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Jimen Ching
>Vince Hoang wrote: >>Would anyone be willing to share privately or publicly how this is done? On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: >I don't like you tone. Taking something out of context (in this case, >comment within a comment, even though it is my own comment) is a very >rude and very ch

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 05:09:42PM -1000, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > I don't like you tone. Taking something out of context (in this case, > comment within a comment, even though it is my own comment) is a very > rude and very childish behavior. Another misunderstanding I suppose. I'll take it off

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I don't like you tone. Taking something out of context (in this case, comment within a comment, even though it is my own comment) is a very rude and very childish behavior. Vince Hoang wrote: Would anyone be willing to share privately or publicly how this is done? Thanks, -Vince ___

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Changing our own config is no problem. But the main issue is, should we allow a public utility type dhcp to change our hostname? whenever wrote: Since RH 7.2 it changes my hostname, so I alway start dhcpcd with the -h option: dhcpcd -h myhostname eth1 add -R if you don't want it to over writ

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 04:36:40PM -1000, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: > "It appears that this particular RR router is doing what it is > NOT supposed to do (trying to take control of the computer but > leaving no host address; and believe me, we have reformatted > the HD several times.) Would anyone be

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread whenever
Since RH 7.2 it changes my hostname, so I alway start dhcpcd with the -h option: dhcpcd -h myhostname eth1 add -R if you don't want it to over write your /etc/resolv.conf (I use my own cache DNS)

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
The following is the comment that I sent to a kind LUAU member who responded to my question in private. I believe the situation is in a total mess (and I envy those Windows cable modem users who are being totally screwed up without an opportunity to realize it). More specifically, as per Geor

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Brian Chee
AIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41 > > I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was > > designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was >

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Ray Strode
I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was subsequently concluded that this was the source of all the problems (including inability to install printer driver, etc.) Not sure why it's causing so many probl

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Joe Linux
One of the reasons I never continued to use RedHat is it always says it can't find the "hostname" when I try to use Gnome. I have never had that problem with any other Linux distribution. W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Thanks Warren. What's bothering me is that I have installed dozens of Red Hat 8 w

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Vince Hoang
On Mon, Dec 23, 2002 at 01:24:05AM -1000, Warren Togami wrote: > That's the default behavior of DHCP in Red Hat 8.0. It is > probably best to override that with a set hostname when you use > DHCP. However, I wasn't aware that changing hostnames like that > would cause so many problems for those ser

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Thanks Warren. What's bothering me is that I have installed dozens of Red Hat 8 with DHCP, and the hostname was always localhost. Warren Togami wrote: W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I was helping one of my partners installing Red Hat 8.0. This is a stand-alone machine with RR cable modem. I notic

Re: [luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread Warren Togami
W. Wayne Liauh wrote: I was helping one of my partners installing Red Hat 8.0. This is a stand-alone machine with RR cable modem. I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was subsequently concluded that

[luau] dhcp-146-41

2002-12-23 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
I was helping one of my partners installing Red Hat 8.0. This is a stand-alone machine with RR cable modem. I noticed that, instead of the usual "localhost", the computer was designated, out of the blue, a name called "dhcp-146-41". It was subsequently concluded that this was the source of a