On Mar 28, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-28 14:44:56 Jim Thompson wrote:
>>> As a non-member, I have no vote in the matter,
>>
>> Since you're calling for membership, will you be the first to join?
>
> Absolutely not. I am completely private, (versus PUBLIC), and avoi
On Fri, 2008-03-28 14:44:56 Jim Thompson wrote:
> > As a non-member, I have no vote in the matter,
>
> Since you're calling for membership, will you be the first to join?
Absolutely not. I am completely private, (versus PUBLIC), and avoid
to whatever extent possible, *any*thing of corporate natur
On Mar 28, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-03-28 10:30:03 Dave Burns wrote:
>> also seemed possible that the whole thing is some personal vendetta
>> or power sturggle between Scott and Jim.
>
> Apparently it's *WAY* bigger than publicly known.
> Until this blow-up I didn
On Fri, 2008-03-28 10:30:03 Dave Burns wrote:
> also seemed possible that the whole thing is some personal vendetta
> or power sturggle between Scott and Jim.
Apparently it's *WAY* bigger than publicly known.
Until this blow-up I didn't have any awareness that HOSEF *had* a board,
as all the act
One last attempt before I give up. Sorry.
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--Peter
On Thu 08/03/27 9:55 PM , Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
> My concern with additional school labs is that we're butting heads
> with DOE and many (not all, but many) tech coordinators,
> who all want the "shinny n
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:13 PM, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been warned away from the Hawaiian Studies group(s) at UH.
Actually this does not much surprise me and it would not surprise me
much if it turned out that teaming with them ended up being
counter-productive or impossi
Sorry, my webmail is not formatting my replies correctly. Let's try
this again.
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--Peter
On Thu 08/03/27 9:55 PM , Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
> My concern with additional school labs is that we're butting heads
with DOE and many (not all, but many) tech coo
On Fri, 2008-03-28 00:01:34 Jim Thompson wrote:
> The ISO 639-2/639-3 code for Hawaiian is "haw".
Excellent. It would be a good idea to get one or more Hawaiian Fonts
into distributions such as Edubuntu so that installation becomes as
easy as "aptitude install fonts-hawaiian".
Aloha, Angela Kah
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On Thu 08/03/27 4:13 PM , Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
My concern with additional school labs is that we're butting heads
with DOE and many (not all, but many) tech coordinators,
who all want the "shinny new stuff" (and there are hard-science
reasons for it
On Mar 27, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-27 16:13:40 Jim Thompson wrote:
>> On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Dave Burns wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> The Kuokoa project got mentioned. I don't see that as competing
>>> wi
On Mar 27, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-03-27 01:30:13 Jim Thompson wrote:
>>
>> This is a general spirt, hackers program because programming
>> challenges are of intrinsic interest to them. Problems related to
>> programming arouse genuine curiosity in the hacker and
On Thu, 2008-03-27 16:13:40 Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Dave Burns wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The Kuokoa project got mentioned. I don't see that as competing
> > with e-waste much. If we had volunteers with the required s
On Mar 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM, Dave Burns wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [snip]
I'd like to reach
out to the Apple community (Jordan Hubbard is an acqaintence, and
he
was spun up to speak at TPOSSCON/PFOSSCON this year, tho
While I only play host to the hosef server (free of charge), I would like to
point out that Scott has been 1000% in favor of how HOSEF helps the
community. He actually ponied up the bucks for the conference by taking out
a home equity...now that says commitment in spadesnot very bright, but
VER
On Thu, 2008-03-27 01:30:13 Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> > I think it's often easier to gift a fully functional computer into
> > the community, made from FLOSS and e-waste, than it is to convince
> > an existing computer owner to risk their own hardw
Stop adding fuel to the fire. Anyone that cares knows the situation.
There is no need to rehash. Help move this conversation forward.
Drop the emergency moderation and take it to hosef-managers.
-Vince
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On Thu, 2008-03-27 03:18:52 Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> > what ails it? what is the proposed solution?
>
> There are many things that ail HOSEF.
>
> It is underfunded for its current mission.
Obviously changing the mission may be quicker and easier
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 3:18 AM, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> >> I'd like to reach
> >> out to the Apple community (Jordan Hubbard is an acqaintence, and he
> >> was spun up to speak at TPOSSCON/PFOSSCON this year, though that
> >> didn't happen.)
There is a good local m
On Thu, 2008-03-27 08:15:42 R. Scott Belford wrote:
> Bottom Line
> My name is Scott. I am the volunteer Executive Director for The
> Hawaii Open Source Education Foundation. In our last complete Board
> Meeting, when we last had a quorum on 12-22-07, I stated that our
> ecycling initiatives eith
Bottom Line
My name is Scott. I am the volunteer Executive Director for The Hawaii Open
Source Education Foundation. In our last complete Board Meeting, when we
last had a quorum on 12-22-07, I stated that our ecycling initiatives either
needed to become self-sustaining or that we needed to phase
On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> Everyone wants practical solutions to problems,
> and that often requires a functional combination
> of hardware and software, so it only makes sense,
> to go solve a problem with a packaged deal..
The worst thing you can say about software i
On Mar 26, 2008, at 9:18 PM, 808blogger wrote:
> It may be presumptive of me but, in my estimation everysingle one of
> those
> computers is likely loaded with software and included incensing (i
> could be
> wrong) but everybusiness ihave ever worked with buys new computers
> with
> operati
On Mar 26, 2008, at 10:59 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 22:16:23 Jim Thompson wrote:
>> I don't think the current setup with the Executive Director is
>> working, nor is healthy for the organization.
>
> ...and your proposed alternative is?
to eliminate the position, put Scott
On Mar 26, 2008, at 8:43 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-03-26 20:04:08 808blogger wrote:
>>
>> I run 100% open source
>> I am a parent
>>
>> Having nothing to do with hosef i'll chime in.
>> the hosef group seems ( by looking at the photo gallery and projects)
>> focuses a lot on har
On Wed, 2008-03-26 22:16:23 Jim Thompson wrote:
> I don't think the current setup with the Executive Director is
> working, nor is healthy for the organization.
...and your proposed alternative is?
> I'll repeat what I said earlier; you can fix a watch by replacing its
> parts, but replacing
First, I am but one board member. The following are my views, MOT
those of the board. The board hasn't been able to meet and discuss
future directions because current events are taking precidence.
I have proposed (and the rest of the board has endorsed) the the first
step is to fill the em
>
> "..and how sweet it is if that packaged solution costs $0,
>
> It's harder to get "cheaper" than FREE (as in beer)."
>
>
It may be presumptive of me but, in my estimation everysingle one of those
computers is likely loaded with software and included incensing (i could be
wrong) but everybusin
On Wed, 2008-03-26 20:04:08 808blogger wrote:
>
> I run 100% open source
> I am a parent
>
> Having nothing to do with hosef i'll chime in.
> the hosef group seems ( by looking at the photo gallery and projects)
> focuses a lot on hardware for some reason. This was made clear when
> reference was
REPOST- I sent from wrong address and it got trapped in moderation. sorry
I run 100% open source
I am a parent
Having nothing to do with hosef i'll chime in.
the hosef group seems ( by looking at the photo gallery and projects)
focuses a lot on hardware for some reason. This was made clear when
On Wednesday 26 March 2008 18:57:07 Dave Burns wrote:
> This answer is pretty vague. Vince and I have both asked similar
> questions on the list, which were also dismissed.
Such questions get answered when an organization wants to work together. The
level of conflict I have seen here means there
On Wed, 2008-03-26 17:06:27 Jim Thompson wrote:
> A fundamental refocusing of HOSEF away from eWaste and back to
> advocacy and education about Free and Open Source.
>
> Jim
How would that, then, be different from a LUG (Linux User's Group)?
other than also supporting BSD, and Solaris and Darwi
> > what is the "right" alternative you propose instead?
>
> A fundamental refocusing of HOSEF away from eWaste and back to
> advocacy and education about Free and Open Source.
This answer is pretty vague. Vince and I have both asked similar
questions on the list, which were also dismissed.
HO
On Mar 26, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Angela Kahealani wrote:
> what is the "right" alternative you propose instead?
A fundamental refocusing of HOSEF away from eWaste and back to
advocacy and education about Free and Open Source.
Jim
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On Wed, 2008-03-26 16:45:53 Jim Thompson wrote:
> If you will listen, there are many who will tell you where you went
> wrong.
Nevermind what's wrong with Scott...
what is the "right" alternative you propose instead?
--
"(I'll) Be Seeing You..."All information and transactions are
private
On Mar 26, 2008, at 4:24 PM, R. Scott Belford wrote:
> Hello. My name is Scott. I have never seen my name so many times
> in a
> generally negative light as I have these last few days on the LUAU
> mailing
> list. This is life, and people have voices. So be it. It is
> easier to
> destr
Deven Phillips wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
*
Aloha Deven,
Where you been?
Someone brought up your name last night when we were at the HOSEF
gathering at Price Busters. Welcome back.
Aloha! Al Plant - Webmaster http://hawaiidakine.com
Providing FAST DSL Service for $28.00 /mo. Memb
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:56:02PM -1000, Deven Phillips wrote:
> I asked you all for an update, so I'll give you an update on
> what's been going on with me.
- long thread on local economy (I found it rather interesting)
- a small flame fest
- plans for a get together this Friday
http://videl.i
Well,
I asked you all for an update, so I'll give you an update on what's
been
going on with me.
I was working for Busch Consulting, Inc. until they asked me to take a %50 pay
cut. I am looking for a job right now.
I have been working a lot with netForensics (www.netforensics.com), w
Welcome Back Deven!
Hope you're still making movies with Linux and doing other cool stuff
with the penguin!
-Jeff Mings
Deven Phillips wrote:
Hello all,
I have finally returned to the group after a long sojourn. I've been a away
too long, so if someone wouldn't mind sending me an e-mai
A quick search for UNIX on SAIC's public page shows 16 openings in Hawaii.
I didn't look them over that well but I noticed a couple of the jobs. The
PASS-K jobs ask for "maintain level 3 Korean language proficiency ". That
isn't exactly a requirement, but you would need a TS clearance and it is a
Florian,
Welcome to the list!!
I can't speak to the computer job market here as it is outside of my area of
expertise, but the beaches are great as is the weather.I thik you will
find this list to be very active and full of goodies.
Hope you enjoy your time in Hawaii.
R,
Ben
On S
I got a message from the old mailie list so I cancelled
myself off it.
Does this mean I am still on the new list?
yes
Yes, you're still on the list. But its Friday, so you should be out
drinking with the rest of them.
-Eric Hattemer
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