Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, Jon j...@destar.net wrote: However, I see most malware through compromised sites and ads, via the web these days. I'll second Jon's suggestion of FireFox/NoScript for tech savvy folks. For others, start with an ad blocker and Chrome if Win7/IE8 doesn't seem to be doing the trick. I'd also recommend disabling Java. A lot of 'ads' on certain sites silently install stuff via Java. .. A benefit of 'app stores' is that they don't contain malware/spyware (except Android's). In my experience 'users' will always want to install things. It's a PC, you can't stop that. It's difficult to differentiate between what is a good application to install and what could happen if you install something so that you can see that greeting card that your friend sent you. Or try telling your nephew that installing free dolphin screen savers isn't a good thing (and neither is going to those sites which offer them). In a way we're moving to these application silos because Windows isn't working out... Because all these suggestions shouldn't be necessary. - Julian ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
Here's an interesting site for this problem: http://noscript.net/faq Dave On 03/04/2011 01:13 AM, Julian Yap wrote: --- On Thu, 3/3/11, Jonj...@destar.net wrote: However, I see most malware through compromised sites and ads, via the web these days. I'll second Jon's suggestion of FireFox/NoScript for tech savvy folks. For others, start with an ad blocker and Chrome if Win7/IE8 doesn't seem to be doing the trick. I'd also recommend disabling Java. A lot of 'ads' on certain sites silently install stuff via Java. .. A benefit of 'app stores' is that they don't contain malware/spyware (except Android's). In my experience 'users' will always want to install things. It's a PC, you can't stop that. It's difficult to differentiate between what is a good application to install and what could happen if you install something so that you can see that greeting card that your friend sent you. Or try telling your nephew that installing free dolphin screen savers isn't a good thing (and neither is going to those sites which offer them). In a way we're moving to these application silos because Windows isn't working out... Because all these suggestions shouldn't be necessary. - Julian ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
Vince Hoang wrote: On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote Does anyone on the list have experience with a firewall on an Oceanic cable feed? Linux or Freebsd is what I use,.but I only have experience with firewalls on Telcom lines. IP is IP. It doesn't matter if your provider hands you cable, DSL, Ethernet or wireless; you protect it the same way. I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. Any suggestions appreciated. If you have a gateway that does NAT, you are shielded from most of the network based attacks. However, I see most malware through compromised sites and ads, via the web these days. I'll second Jon's suggestion of FireFox/NoScript for tech savvy folks. For others, start with an ad blocker and Chrome if Win7/IE8 doesn't seem to be doing the trick. My best suggestion is to have 1 PC that has no network access or is only used to visit financial sites and a 2nd PC for recreational use. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org Aloha, Thanks for the excellent suggestions. -- ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
[LUAU] IP address on Cable
Aloha, Does anyone on the list have experience with a firewall on an Oceanic cable feed? Linux or Freebsd is what I use,.but I only have experience with firewalls on Telcom lines. I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. Any suggestions appreciated. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
Use the firewall that comes with windows and use a cheap router to nat only those ports that need to be exposed. Use firefox with noscript and download a couple of malware cleaners and run them both to clean up the box. Update his norton and his system and any other app. Hope that helps, Jon -Original message- From: Al Plant n...@hdk5.net To: LUAU luau@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org Sent: Thu, Mar 3, 2011 22:39:14 GMT+00:00 Subject: [LUAU] IP address on Cable Aloha, Does anyone on the list have experience with a firewall on an Oceanic cable feed? Linux or Freebsd is what I use,.but I only have experience with firewalls on Telcom lines. I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. Any suggestions appreciated. ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. If not fixed, then the same for extended periods. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. I always am suspicious of anti-virus software. I don't think it works well. The main difference between cable and ADSL is that the cable folks share a quasi-local network with a number of other households. If Windows networking isn't blocked on Windows' firewall, or the router, in theory other people on that network can browse the files on a user's machine. Likewise, malware with that capability can have better luck spreading on cable. Any suggestions appreciated. Install Linux. ;) Failing that, you need to check into the guy's browsing and e-mail habits. ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Al Plant n...@hdk5.net wrote Does anyone on the list have experience with a firewall on an Oceanic cable feed? Linux or Freebsd is what I use,.but I only have experience with firewalls on Telcom lines. IP is IP. It doesn't matter if your provider hands you cable, DSL, Ethernet or wireless; you protect it the same way. I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. Any suggestions appreciated. If you have a gateway that does NAT, you are shielded from most of the network based attacks. However, I see most malware through compromised sites and ads, via the web these days. I'll second Jon's suggestion of FireFox/NoScript for tech savvy folks. For others, start with an ad blocker and Chrome if Win7/IE8 doesn't seem to be doing the trick. My best suggestion is to have 1 PC that has no network access or is only used to visit financial sites and a 2nd PC for recreational use. -Vince ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
Re: [LUAU] IP address on Cable
On 03/03/2011 09:34 PM, Vince Hoang wrote: On Mar 3, 2011, at 12:36 PM, Al Plantn...@hdk5.net wrote Does anyone on the list have experience with a firewall on an Oceanic cable feed? Linux or Freebsd is what I use,.but I only have experience with firewalls on Telcom lines. IP is IP. It doesn't matter if your provider hands you cable, DSL, Ethernet or wireless; you protect it the same way. I am trying to help a guy with a Windows 7 box. He has netflix on this cable too so it may have a fixed IP. He gets attacked a lot with viruses and other weirdness even with Norton on the box. Any suggestions appreciated. If you have a gateway that does NAT, you are shielded from most of the network based attacks. However, I see most malware through compromised sites and ads, via the web these days. I'll second Jon's suggestion of FireFox/NoScript for tech savvy folks. For others, start with an ad blocker and Chrome if Win7/IE8 doesn't seem to be doing the trick. My best suggestion is to have 1 PC that has no network access or is only used to visit financial sites and a 2nd PC for recreational use. -Vince Vince brings up a really good point about a 2nd PC for financial sites. Another option would be if the person cannot afford a 2nd PC then burn them a copy of Knoppix or some other live cd and teach them to use that when they do those types of transactions. Really Al what this person needs is a good lesson on what is safe and what is not safe on the Internet. Clicking install on everything that pops up or allowing images to be loaded in email from third-party websites is asking for trouble. What is obvious to us is not obvious to the regular user, we deal with this on a daily basis because it is our job, we know the basics of safe Internetting. But we really are the exception, what we take as common sense is really not that common to the uninitiated. I believe in this users case knowledge will go a lot farther than software and hardware and it will save you a little piece of sanity. :) Jon ___ LUAU@lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org mailing list http://lists.freesoftwarehawaii.org/listinfo.cgi/luau-freesoftwarehawaii.org
