Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
I really wish someone could have shown me his/her Ubuntu installation so
I wouldn't have to waste the past weekend. But I understand we all have
our priorities.
In the interest in saving future weekends, please know that you can come
by McKinley any Saturday
R. Scott Belford wrote:
In the interest in saving future weekends, please know that you can
come by McKinley any Saturday to see an Ubuntu installation.
Thanks, I didn't know that. Wayne
Since I started this thread, I don't want to leave an impression that I
endorse Ubuntu. Actually I don't. Windows killer it is not. Far from
it. For the things I am doing and planning to do, SuSE is still the
best (and the comparison pool includes Windows XP-Pro). As I mentioned
in a
On Jun 6, 2006, at 7:43 PM, Maddog wrote:
And it will change. I've been doing hotel WiFi in various
guises since 1998. Wayport had over 1,000 hotels when I left.
It will change in Hawaii slower than elsewhere because there is
no business requirement driving the hotels here.
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
On Jun 6, 2006, at 7:43 PM, Maddog wrote:
And it will change. I've been doing hotel WiFi in various guises
since 1998. Wayport had over 1,000 hotels when I left.It will
change in Hawaii slower than elsewhere because there is no business
Hotels (on the mainland) have figured out that people will preferentially
stay where there first was WiFi and now folks will stay where its free.
This is especially true in the 3 star level places. (Nobody expects water
to be free in the Four Seasons.)
I'm currently staying in a Hyatt in a
Compared to the rest of you, my knowledge of such things is very limited, so
this may be an embarrassing question. Are there any city or state governments
trying to do this as a service for their citizens? If so, have any of them
been successful? Will the Net eventually evolve into something
of
Hawaii hotels above, I do not know much about mainland hotels except the
Four Seasons where my boss stays
MD
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Hotels
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From: Tim Newsham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
Compared to the rest of you, my knowledge of such things is very limited,
so this may be an embarrassing question. Are there any city
(though I've got a
quick back-n-forth trip to LA in there.)
MD
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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 1:06 AM
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On Jun 6, 2006, at 7:43 PM, Maddog wrote
learn to live with it. It really is like
living in a third world country at times.
MD
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From: Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 8:36 AM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
On Jun 7, 2006, at 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
On Jun 5, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Maddog wrote:
Jim,
One point I think most of the FOSS community misses is that it's great
if you have the technical knowhow to find, install and troubleshoot
these free softwares. The majority of users in the world either
If you had a choice to buy gas for $3.35/gallon right down the street on
King Street or drive to Millilani (if you live in town) and pay
$3.09/gallon, where would you most like fuel up? A large majority would go
to the more expensive station out of convenience.
I think you'll find they're
, 2006 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
On Jun 5, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Maddog wrote:
Jim,
One point I think most of the FOSS community misses is that it's
great if you have the technical knowhow to find, install and
troubleshoot these free softwares. The majority of users
You've just proved the validity of his analogy. Now compute the cost of
installing your own codec versus buying a package with the codec
installed. Be sure to include the value of your time. You
definitely have to drive a lot further when you do it yourself.
apt-get install w32codecs
On Jun 6, 2006, at 6:47 AM, Tim Newsham wrote:
If you had a choice to buy gas for $3.35/gallon right down the
street on King Street or drive to Millilani (if you live in town)
and pay $3.09/gallon, where would you most like fuel up? A large
majority would go to the more expensive station
I know plenty about the cost of bandwidth. I also know about the cost of
deploying wireless equipment and maintaining the network. It is not viable
to offer free wi-fi unless you can pay for the costs.
MD
Bandwidth and equipment cost money and I don't see any companies lining
up to donate
I'm sorry, but a single AP in your coffee shop/mcdonalds/lunch
counter/ will cost you less than $100.
Hotels (on the mainland) have figured out that people will
preferentially stay where there first was WiFi and now folks will
stay where its free.
This is especially true in the 3 star
, June 06, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
I'm sorry, but a single AP in your coffee shop/mcdonalds/lunch
counter/ will cost you less than $100.
Hotels (on the mainland) have figured out that people will preferentially
stay where there first was WiFi and now folks
@lists.hosef.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
I'm sorry, but a single AP in your coffee shop/mcdonalds/lunch
counter/ will cost you less than $100.
Hotels (on the mainland) have figured out that people will
preferentially stay where there first
And it will change. I've been doing hotel WiFi in various guises since
1998. Wayport had over 1,000 hotels when I left. It will change in
Hawaii slower than elsewhere because there is no business requirement
driving the hotels here. Hawaii is a resort destination. People come
here
On Tuesday, June 6, 2006, at 07:43 PM, Maddog wrote:
And it will change. I've been doing hotel WiFi in various guises
since 1998. Wayport had over 1,000 hotels when I left. It will
change in Hawaii slower than elsewhere because there is no business
requirement driving the hotels
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 13:22 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
But in order to do MP3, DVD, and/or play movies, etc., you need to
do something extra. Fortunately, there is a Python script that
will do all these, and more, in one simple
On Jun 5, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Julian Yap wrote:
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 13:22 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
But in order to do MP3, DVD, and/or play movies, etc., you need to
do something extra. Fortunately, there is a Python script that
Julian Yap wrote:
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 13:22 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
But in order to do MP3, DVD, and/or play movies, etc., you need to
do something extra. Fortunately, there is a Python script that
will do all these,
--- David Kiwerski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Julian Yap wrote:
On Sat, 2006-06-03 at 13:22 -1000, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Jun 3, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Hawaii Linux Institute wrote:
But in order to do MP3, DVD, and/or play movies, etc., you
need to
do something extra.
On Jun 5, 2006, at 6:25 PM, David Kiwerski wrote:
How would you explain Linspire's DVD player that plays commercial
DVD's?
I think he already did.
The Linspire DVD player is a software multimedia player that
includes legal, licensed commercial-quality codecs and auto-
detection of DVDs
On Jun 5, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Jun 5, 2006, at 6:25 PM, David Kiwerski wrote:
How would you explain Linspire's DVD player that plays commercial
DVD's?
I think he already did.
The Linspire DVD player is a software multimedia player that
includes legal, licensed
: Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: LUAU luau@lists.hosef.org
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LUAU] Ubuntu... Legalities
On Jun 5, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Jun 5, 2006, at 6:25 PM, David Kiwerski wrote:
How would you explain Linspire's DVD player that plays
On Jun 5, 2006, at 8:12 PM, Maddog wrote:
Jim,
One point I think most of the FOSS community misses is that it's
great if you have the technical knowhow to find, install and
troubleshoot these free softwares. The majority of users in the
world either don't have the time, or don't have
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