[Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Julien Lavergne]

Hi,

I just commit some changes to Lubuntu PPA [1], which should fixes some
majors bugs reported on Alpha 3 for the file-manager :
- No applications://
- No trash
- No consolkit (modification of time options)
- bugs marked as "fixed" on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing

Please upgrade all the packages and report any new regression between
them and the Alpha 3 :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

[1] : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Steve]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 09:49:20 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Hi,

I just commit some changes to Lubuntu PPA [1], which should fixes some
majors bugs reported on Alpha 3 for the file-manager :
- No applications://
- No trash
- No consolkit (modification of time options)
- bugs marked as "fixed" on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/TestingSubTeam/pcmanfm2Testing

Please upgrade all the packages and report any new regression between
them and the Alpha 3 :)

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

[1] : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa




Added the PPA and updated the packages.  Nothing nasty happened. Rebooted  
system and all as usual. So far so good:)
What is the Applications entry supposed to do, all I get is an empty  
window and menu://applications/ in the address bar.


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[Lubuntu-desktop] dependency vs. configuration-possibility

[M. Daub]

Hello *,

there are many dependencies for the lubuntu-desktop, so that someone can't 
purge packages without breaking the lubuntu-desktop-package.

Couldn't you reduce the dependencies to the absolute necessities and ship the 
other packages without dependencies.

For example, I'd like to purge xfburn in favor for brasero, or like to purge 
the music- and video-packages in favor for vlc.
But I can't without breaking the lubuntu-desktop-package.

Best regards
Marcus

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] dependency vs. configuration-possibility

[PCMan]

That's just a meta-package and removing it won't break anything.
Feel free to customize your system.

On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:15 PM, M. Daub  wrote:
> Hello *,
>
> there are many dependencies for the lubuntu-desktop, so that someone can't
> purge packages without breaking the lubuntu-desktop-package.
>
> Couldn't you reduce the dependencies to the absolute necessities and ship the
> other packages without dependencies.
>
> For example, I'd like to purge xfburn in favor for brasero, or like to purge
> the music- and video-packages in favor for vlc.
> But I can't without breaking the lubuntu-desktop-package.
>
> Best regards
> Marcus
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] dependency vs. configuration-possibility

[Chow Loong Jin]

On Sunday 28,February,2010 08:39 PM, PCMan wrote:
> That's just a meta-package and removing it won't break anything.
> Feel free to customize your system.

Actually we should use Recommends for all the mentioned dependencies, so that
they may be swapped out easily, while still retaining the lubuntu-desktop
metapackage in order to have newly depended upon packages installed
automatically in the next upgrade.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] dependency vs. configuration-possibility

[Julien Lavergne]

Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 20:42 +0800, Chow Loong Jin a écrit :
> Actually we should use Recommends for all the mentioned dependencies, so that
> they may be swapped out easily, while still retaining the lubuntu-desktop
> metapackage in order to have newly depended upon packages installed
> automatically in the next upgrade.

It's the goal, but only when the ISO will be build with the Ubuntu
architecture. Until this, I need to keep depends for everything to
generate the ISO.
But as PCman mention, it's only a meta-package which contain nothing,
you can safely remove it.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Julien Lavergne]

Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 11:36 +, Steve a écrit :
> Added the PPA and updated the packages.  Nothing nasty happened. Rebooted  
> system and all as usual. So far so good:)
> What is the Applications entry supposed to do, all I get is an empty  
> window and menu://applications/ in the address bar.

I forgot a fix for this :) I'll upload it shortly.
It should displays the content of the menu, with icon and ability to
launch the applications.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Steve]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:59:51 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 11:36 +, Steve a écrit :
Added the PPA and updated the packages.  Nothing nasty happened.  
Rebooted

system and all as usual. So far so good:)
What is the Applications entry supposed to do, all I get is an empty
window and menu://applications/ in the address bar.


I forgot a fix for this :) I'll upload it shortly.
It should displays the content of the menu, with icon and ability to
launch the applications.




OK

Is that the reason I am not offered any applications when I select Open  
with...



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Steve]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:59:51 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 11:36 +, Steve a écrit :
Added the PPA and updated the packages.  Nothing nasty happened.  
Rebooted

system and all as usual. So far so good:)
What is the Applications entry supposed to do, all I get is an empty
window and menu://applications/ in the address bar.


I forgot a fix for this :) I'll upload it shortly.
It should displays the content of the menu, with icon and ability to
launch the applications.


Updated from the PPA
menu://applications now has applications :D
Auto mounting CDs and Flash drives OK :D
No icon for Floppy drive:(
Icons missing for Galculator, Aqualung and Screensaver - these have icons  
in the menu.



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[Lubuntu-desktop] Question on filing bugs...

[Jeff Elkner]

I've begun installing Lubuntu on several older computers at my school.
 I'm really excited about the potential of Lubuntu to turn older
computers into useful computers and to be able to then give those
computers to low income students in our community.

My question concerns filing bugs.  I noticed that /usr/games is not in
the search path on alpha3, so when I installed xboard, it shows up in
the menu, but won't launch.  I can launch it from the terminal, but
since the chess engine it looks for is also in /usr/games, it can't
find that either.  I wanted to file a bug, but the launchpad site
doesn't appear to be used for that.

Please advise.

Thanks!

jeff elkner
arlington public schools
arlington, virginia

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Question on filing bugs...

[Julien Lavergne]

Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 11:17 -0500, Jeff Elkner a écrit :
> My question concerns filing bugs.  I noticed that /usr/games is not in
> the search path on alpha3, so when I installed xboard, it shows up in
> the menu, but won't launch.  I can launch it from the terminal, but
> since the chess engine it looks for is also in /usr/games, it can't
> find that either.  I wanted to file a bug, but the launchpad site
> doesn't appear to be used for that.
For this specific bug, I just committed a fix in lxdm, so it should be
fixed in the next update.

Generally, you can report bugs on any packages of Lubuntu. You can run
"ubuntu-bug the_name_of_the_package". If it's a specific package, the
tool will warn you, and in this case, you can report it on the mailing
list.

I'll do a more verbose explanation next week, to explain how to report
bugs.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne




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[Lubuntu-desktop] A few suggestions

[Sylkis]

> Hi, I am running the live session of alpha 3 and have a few thoughts
> 1. make background color of terminal white and rename it in the lxde-menus
> from LXtermnal to Terminal
I'd prefer keeping terminal fancy black ;)
> 2. If possible increase the width and height of lxmenu so that the icons
> look a bit bigger
like already told before, the low-res screens...
> 3. make chromium to use the window border of the theme instead of chromium.
> doing this adds minimize effect to chromium.
REALLY BAD idea imo - chromium tabs are integrated with window
titlebar, forcing window border theme will multiply
close/maximize/minimize buttons and unnecessary waste of space on the
low-res screens AND ruin look of BOTH window and chromium look. It's
gonna look unprofessional, like it doesn't fit, just pasted in without
any thought and proper implementing. if you want colours to fit, we'd
have to create a new chromium skin and make it deault.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes

[Dallas Wiebelhaus]

+1

2010/2/28 神癒礁湖 

>  Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications, like
> Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would be great. What
> do you think?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes

[Phill Whiteside]

+1  I live by 'stickies' :-)

2010/2/28 神癒礁湖 

>  Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications, like
> Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would be great. What
> do you think?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Steve]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 15:27:47 -, Steve   
wrote:


On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 12:59:51 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 11:36 +, Steve a écrit :
Added the PPA and updated the packages.  Nothing nasty happened.  
Rebooted

system and all as usual. So far so good:)
What is the Applications entry supposed to do, all I get is an empty
window and menu://applications/ in the address bar.


I forgot a fix for this :) I'll upload it shortly.
It should displays the content of the menu, with icon and ability to
launch the applications.


Updated from the PPA
menu://applications now has applications :D
Auto mounting CDs and Flash drives OK :D
No icon for Floppy drive:(
Icons missing for Galculator, Aqualung and Screensaver - these have  
icons in the menu.




The smb:// protocol works.

Can’t place any files on the desktop.  Anything placed in the Desktop  
folder doesn’t show on the desktop. Can’t paste to it directly as  
Right-Click rings up an OpenBox Menu.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes

[Jo Gerb]

I never use them, but I know many people love and need notes. +1

Best regards,
Jo

Am 28.02.2010 um 20:50 schrieb Phill Whiteside :


+1  I live by 'stickies' :-)

2010/2/28 神癒礁湖 
Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications,  
like Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would  
be great. What do you think?









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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Julien Lavergne]

Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 20:08 +, Steve a écrit :
> Can’t place any files on the desktop.  Anything placed in the Desktop  
> folder doesn’t show on the desktop. Can’t paste to it directly as  
> Right-Click rings up an OpenBox Menu.

Well the "fix" for menu://applications break the desktop management, so
we are back to the starting point, with menu://applications not working
when it's autostarted by lxsession.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes

[Julien Lavergne]

Did someone try it on Lucid ? When I launch it, I don't have the yellow
background, it seems quite broken for now.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 20:35 +0100, 神癒礁湖 a écrit :
> Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications,
> like Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would be
> great. What do you think?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Notes

[Phill Whiteside]

put it onto my Lucid 10.04 a3 -- as you say, no colour and looks pretty
broken :-\

Regards,

Phill.

2010/2/28 Julien Lavergne 

>
> Did someone try it on Lucid ? When I launch it, I don't have the yellow
> background, it seems quite broken for now.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
> Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 20:35 +0100, 神癒礁湖 a écrit :
> > Another suggestion. It would be great to have a notes applications,
> > like Tomboy, bu without its resource hungry. So I think XPAD would be
> > great. What do you think?
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] pcmanfm2 and menu-cache fixes

[Steve]

On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 22:04:33 -, Julien Lavergne   
wrote:



Le dimanche 28 février 2010 à 20:08 +, Steve a écrit :

Can’t place any files on the desktop.  Anything placed in the Desktop
folder doesn’t show on the desktop. Can’t paste to it directly as
Right-Click rings up an OpenBox Menu.


Well the "fix" for menu://applications break the desktop management, so
we are back to the starting point, with menu://applications not working
when it's autostarted by lxsession.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne



Oh! :(

I take it from the conversation I saw on #lubuntu this morning that it  
isn’t a trivial matter to solve.


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