[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing - Part 2

[Ali Linx]

Hello Everyone,

As promised, this is my 2nd Test Notes and I'm so sorry for being late.

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*Test No.2*
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PC: P4 3.0GHz - 512GB RAM - *Wiped* 20GB IDE HDD - Radeon Xpress 200* *
BIOS: Phoenix

Media 1: Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 *LiveCD *- 32 bit
Media 2: Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 *LiveUSB* - 32 bit
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*Please be advised:*
On my 2nd PC (H/W Details above), I can share my RAM with the Graphics
Memory *[Onboard Video Memory Size]* and I have decided to share 256MB which
is the maximum size I can choose from the list. Thus, this test was done on
less than 256MB RAM :D

Also, please note that my CD Drive is making terrible sounds (loud) but it
works until now.
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*A- Test From LiveCD*

*Installation Notes:*
1- Try Lubuntu without Installation > CLI > startx > LXDE Desktop - Same
what happened in Test No.1

Reboot done ...

2- Install Ubuntu > Quit > Quit > Lubuntu Desktop

***3- Installation > Something else >> I'm installing on a wiped HDD with
18.6GB un-allocated space >> no matter what custom size I choose for root
(/) partition, the install allocate the whole space to that partition (sda1)
and I can't do anything about it. Definitely a bug but I'm not sure whether
I can re-produce it or not?

- I choose 4GB but it gave the whole space to sda1
- I choose 10GB but it gave the whole space to sda1
- I even tried to adjust the size after that but it did not allow me to
change it

On the partition screen, there is two devices:
- /dev/sda
- /dev/zram0

I have never seen that before so what is "/dev/zram0" ???


4- "Erase Disk and Install" was the only way to install Lubuntu on that
machine.



*B- Test From LiveUSB Creating using UNetbootin*
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*Installation Notes:*
1- Try Lubuntu without installation ... WORKED :)

I have repeated that on my other PC and it worked too. That is telling me
when booting from LiveUSB, "Try Lubuntu without installation" will work but
when booting from LiveCD, it does not. Weird.


2- First Step in the installation (Choosing the Language) > *You may wish to
update this installer* > Click on it >  Message disappeared.

I don't remember I have seen that before. It happened on that PC not on my
other PC. The message is a link when you click it, it's gone.

I have no idea what is that?


3- Installation > Something else > When creating new partition, it did not
give me the previous error and I can create partitions as I want and give
the size I want. I gave sda1 3.5GB only + 512MB for SWAP.

/dev/zram0 was there too.

However, something weird happened which did not happen when I was installing
from LiveCD (*A- Test From LiveCD*). I think the installer needed 30mins or
more just to move to the next step. After creating the partitions, I tried
to go to the next screen but it got stuck. I went to have my lunch and when
I came back, it moved to the next step. That never happened with me before
as far as I can remember.

4- Installation took longer but it's done.

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Above are the installation notes.

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*>Now, some other notes after installation on this PC and the other one as
well.*

1- XChat is not installed by default, unlike Lubuntu 11.04.

2- I managed to re-produce the same issue with the Menu on both PCs when it
got stuck or frozen (Screenshot will be included).

3- I installed LSC on PC2 where I did Test No.2 and I can see the Search Box
is active and the interface of LSC is a bit different now. However, I got
many Crash Report and Screenshots will be included.

4- PCManFM keeps Crashing even on both PCs. Crash Report could NOT be sent
again. Screenshots will be included.

5- The previous described issue about "Enable Networking" and "Enable
Wireless" is the same on both PCs. I also noticed that if I tick/check both,
reboot, everything back to the previous point which means both options are
un-checked or un-ticked.

6- Today I noticed that every time I reboot my machine and login to Lubuntu,
I got "Authentication required by Wireless Network" pop-up message and I
have to enter the password for my Wireless Router.
I think it's happening from time to time because on the 2nd PC, I didn't get
that message today but I'm sure I got it yesterday.

7- The 2nd PC with less than 256MB is working ok with Lubuntu and as per the
Screenshot (will be included), when the PC is idle, 60MB of the RAM is being
used. However, I had hard time during the installation.

Lubuntu does work with less than 256MB but I guess it needs more during the
installation or else, the installation will be so slow.

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing

[Ali Linx]

Hi Gabriel,

You most welcome :)

Then, you need to press Fn+F11 so that your NumLock got activated? then If
I'm not wrong, "numlockx" won't effect you unless you press Fn+F11. So
simply don't :P

I don't see there's a problem but again, it's a matter of personal opinion
and some other people may disagree with me.
After all, it's up to the developers to include this small app :)



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> Hello Ali
>
> Thanks for the tip ;)
>
> My netbook is an Aspire One D250. If I press Fn+F11, I turn on the NumLock
> and "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.
>
> Thanks,
> Gabriel Salles
>
>
> 2011/9/28 Ali Linx 
>
>>
>> Hello Gabriel :)
>>
>> I think you forgot to hit "Reply All" so I was the only one who received
>> your message. I think it's better to hit "Reply All" so everyone on the list
>> can read it.  Never mind :)
>>
>>
>> I don't think this is a good idea to Lubuntu. I have a netbook, and when
>>> NumLock is on, I "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.
>>
>>
>> Well, on my HP Pavilion DV6, I don't even have Num-Lock. Got another
>> Laptop at home (Toshiba) and same applies to it. Also, we do have Netbook
>> (Samsung 150N Plus) and there is no Num-Lock at all :)
>> What Netbook do you have?
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Ali
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Gabriel Salles 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 8 - I'm using Lubuntu 11.04 and this happens with me sometimes... Like
>>> A.J. said, clicking on the desktop does nothing. So I click on lxpanel and
>>> the menu disappears.
>>>
>>> 11 -
>>> a - From what I read, *numlockx *makes the NumLock on by default. I
>>> don't think this is a good idea to Lubuntu. I have a netbook, and when
>>> NumLock is on, I "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Gabriel Salles
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> *A.J
>> amjjawad*
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>> My Wiki Page 
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>>
>>
>


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing

[Gabriel Salles]

Hello Ali

Thanks for the tip ;)

My netbook is an Aspire One D250. If I press Fn+F11, I turn on the NumLock
and "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.

Thanks,
Gabriel Salles


2011/9/28 Ali Linx 

>
> Hello Gabriel :)
>
> I think you forgot to hit "Reply All" so I was the only one who received
> your message. I think it's better to hit "Reply All" so everyone on the list
> can read it.  Never mind :)
>
>
> I don't think this is a good idea to Lubuntu. I have a netbook, and when
>> NumLock is on, I "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.
>
>
> Well, on my HP Pavilion DV6, I don't even have Num-Lock. Got another Laptop
> at home (Toshiba) and same applies to it. Also, we do have Netbook (Samsung
> 150N Plus) and there is no Num-Lock at all :)
> What Netbook do you have?
>
>
> Thanks!
> Ali
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Gabriel Salles 
> wrote:
>
>> 8 - I'm using Lubuntu 11.04 and this happens with me sometimes... Like
>> A.J. said, clicking on the desktop does nothing. So I click on lxpanel and
>> the menu disappears.
>>
>> 11 -
>> a - From what I read, *numlockx *makes the NumLock on by default. I don't
>> think this is a good idea to Lubuntu. I have a netbook, and when NumLock is
>> on, I "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Gabriel Salles
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Best Regards,
>
> *A.J
> amjjawad*
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> My Wiki Page 
> My Launchpad 
> My Ubuntu Forum Profile 
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing

[Ali Linx]

Hello Gabriel :)

I think you forgot to hit "Reply All" so I was the only one who received
your message. I think it's better to hit "Reply All" so everyone on the list
can read it.  Never mind :)


I don't think this is a good idea to Lubuntu. I have a netbook, and when
> NumLock is on, I "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.


Well, on my HP Pavilion DV6, I don't even have Num-Lock. Got another Laptop
at home (Toshiba) and same applies to it. Also, we do have Netbook (Samsung
150N Plus) and there is no Num-Lock at all :)
What Netbook do you have?


Thanks!
Ali


On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:51 PM, Gabriel Salles wrote:

> 8 - I'm using Lubuntu 11.04 and this happens with me sometimes... Like A.J.
> said, clicking on the desktop does nothing. So I click on lxpanel and the
> menu disappears.
>
> 11 -
> a - From what I read, *numlockx *makes the NumLock on by default. I don't
> think this is a good idea to Lubuntu. I have a netbook, and when NumLock is
> on, I "lose" the *J,K,L,U,I,O,P *letters.
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Gabriel Salles
>



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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing

[Ali Linx]

Hi Julien,

Hope you are fine and doing well. Thanks again for your reply :)

For LSC, I reported the bug as agreed:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/861554

Now, to reply your latest email:


3- Yes, it's a bug : http://pad.lv/819538
> If it's not fixed for the final release, you will have to use the alternate
> ISO if you have less than 4.0 Gb.


What I was trying to say is I did not get an error message or the installer
didn't crash even though the partition where I was trying to install Lubuntu
11.10 beta 2 on is less than 4GB.
I have done another installation on another PC with less space (3.5GB) and
again nothing wrong happened.
Does that mean the problem is fixed? or it happened from time to time?

Also, does the installer calculate the total HDD Size and based on that it
decides whether the Disc Space is not enough or not? just to make sure what
I'm thinking about is correct.


4- Sorry, I mean, where do you find that screen ? In which step of the
> installation did it appear ?


"Choose a Picture" Step appears right after the partitions screen but I'll
double check and confirm where exactly it appears.
But, is it a bug or something? it shouldn't show up, right?


5- Hum, I done many installations, but never having this problem :-/ I'll
> try to do some testing next time I install Lubuntu to see if I can reproduce
> it.
>

I'll try re-install Lubuntu and hope I can re-produce the same error.
Will keep you posted :)


7- We plan to add more artwork, but not by default. It should be a package
> available which have more artwork for Lubuntu.


PPA you mean? that would be great and better IMHO :)
Lubuntu really needs lots of these stuff. I was trying to write some guides
about that but I'll wait until 11.10 be released and will have 6 months to
write guides as much as possible :)


*8- I'd like to report a new problem with the Menu:*
I installed "Cairo-Dock" and I wanted to move LXPanel to the top of the
screen. I done that. While I was trying to open the menu, I got the
following *screenshot

.*
I repeated the same with the other PC without installing Cairo-Doc, I just
moved the LXPanel to the top of the screen and the same issue happened
again.
Menu is totally blank as you can see and you can't do anything unless you
moved it back to the bottom.
Please note that I haven't tried to "restart" the LXPanel.
Please advice!


9- Yes please, I'm sure the network-manager will have a look at it if you
> document it like this :)


I'm sorry but where do I have to report that? here
https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop ???



13- Yes, it should collect all the information we need.


When I tried to report that, nothing happened. Seemed to me the Report can't
be sent. Please advice!
Shall I include a screenshot next time?




Thanks a lot,
Ali


On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

>  Le 27/09/2011 10:25, Ali Linx a écrit :
>
>   3- I chose "Something Else" and created a new Partition (sda9) with *
>> 3.91GB* from un-allocated disk space. Please note that I'm Multi-Booting
>> several Distros on this test PC. GRUB was installed into sda9 not MBR (sda).
>> Installation was smooth and errors-free.
>
>
>  Apparently, Lubuntu 11.10 "can" be installed on less than 4GB HDD. I
> think I have read it somewhere that there is an error or bug because the
> installer require more than 4GB. Am I right? just thought to highlight this
> because this is important for those who wants to install Lubuntu on 4GB USB
> Drive.
>
> Yes, it's a bug : http://pad.lv/819538
> If it's not fixed for the final release, you will have to use the alternate
> ISO if you have less than 4.0 Gb.
>
>
>   4- It's currently not supported. How do you find to this screen using
>> the installer ?
>
>
>  If it's not supported, will this feature be included with the final
> release of Lubuntu 11.10?
>
>  Sorry, what do you mean by "How do you find to this screen using the
> installer"???
>
> Sorry, I mean, where do you find that screen ? In which step of the
> installation did it appear ?
>
>
>   5- It should not happen if you don't do anything like plug in a new
>> media. Is it reproducible ? Are you using a USB stick or a live CD ?
>
>
>  I was installing from LiveCD.
> No, I haven't inserted anything. I was so surprised because that was my
> first time I see such message or pop-up window during the installation.
> Reproducible? shall I re-install Lubuntu 11.10? I got it during the
> installation process which has already begun and I'm not quite sure whether
> I'll get it or not. I did not get it on my 2nd and 3rd test on the other PC
> (I'll send an email about it later today hopefully).
>
> Hum, I done many installations, but never having this problem :-/ I'll try
> to do some testing next time I install Lubuntu to see if I can reproduce it.
>
>
>   7- Thanks, we have great artists around here ;-)
>
>
>  Indeed he's great. It