[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

2011-12-18 Thread eco.st...@fastwebnet.it
Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau
nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.

Regards

Stephen Smally

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

2011-12-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Stephen,

as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong!

1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so I
grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked.
2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that
one out).

The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but double
clicking on it does nothing.

You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :)

I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case it
is of help to you.

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it 
eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
 this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau
 nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
 Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.

 Regards

 Stephen Smally

 P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test.


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users

2011-12-18 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 12/17/2011 04:32 PM, Gabriel Salles a écrit :
 I don't know if it is possible, but is there a way of Canonical count
 how many IPs does an update? Maybe some specific update, like
 software-center, lxterminal... I know that some computers still
 doesn't use internet, but most of them use.
It was proposed by Canonical to count Ubuntu users, but some people was
against this, they don't like been tracking or that their OS sending
data by default. So, it was abandoned.

One thing you can do, it's enable popcon support : open
software-properties-gtk, go to Statistics, and click on the checkbox.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Users (popularity-contest)

2011-12-18 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 12/18/2011 03:03 AM, Jonathan Marsden a écrit :
 Will whatever new survey you are proposing clearly do better than this?
  Would enhancing popularity-contest and its associated infrastructure so
 it *does* distinguish between the various flavours of Ubuntu be as
 useful, or more useful, than your proposal?  How do current numbers of
 users (as reported by popcon) installing lubuntu-desktop or lxde-common
 compare to those installing ubuntu-desktop, for example?

 Overall, I recommend using existing tools and data over trying to build
 a new survey mechanism from scratch.
Yes, popcon is handy for pure statistics, but you can't use it for
feedbacks about the usability of the system, or what user would like to
see in priority.

Of course, using a survey is not 100% reliable, but I don't think any
tools which gather this type of data is 100% reliable :) I think a
survey done once after each release, could be a good source of information.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

2011-12-18 Thread Julien Lavergne
Le 12/17/2011 09:59 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA a écrit :

 That would be great. We do need such team which should NOT be isolated
 from Ubuntu Team (sorry if I didn't explain myself previously). The
 Marketing Team Members are Lubuntu Members who will be dedicated to do
 one main job/task and that will be Marketing.

 Also, we do need a Wiki or Documentation Team.
In my mind, the teams should be free to organize themself, and to work
as they like. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Teams_New for my first
ideas on the topic.

 What about a Sub-Forum on LXDE Forum? if that's possible, it would be
 great since I'm a moderator there. However, someone must do something
 please about the continuous problem on LXDE Website. It's up and down
 and when it's up, it's very slow.
It sounds like a good idea.

 What I'm thinking and wondering about: Having more resources depends
 on money or something else? also, if we are an official variant for
 Ubuntu then it's not bad idea at all if Canonical spend something to
 improve Lubuntu in any possible way. I have no idea how their system
 work and to be honest don't want to be involved, I have enough stuff
 to care about but I was just wondering.
 I'll keep searching for people who can really support us financially.
 In case I find someone, what shall I do?
We never discuss the financial case, and it's quite a complex topic :)
Imagine, you want to give 10 € to Lubuntu, how do you share it between
people who make Lubuntu :
- Lubuntu project (and who in the Lubuntu project ?)
- Ubuntu project (because we are based on Ubuntu)
- Debian project (because we are besed on Ubuntu, which is base on Debian)
- LXDE project (because we used many LXDE components)
- Other upstream projects (kernel, abiword, gnome-mplayer ...)
- ...

One idea is to have in the software-center a button to support upstream
projects, or / and having a page with all the support links.

But, money doesn't do all. For an open source project, we primarily need
users, developers, testers, and people who spread the work :)

 Well, I think there is a bug using these on both Lubuntu 11.10 and 11.04.
 On 11.10, adding the above two packages will not add the username.
 Adding the username must be done through indicator-me which is gone
 in 11.10 and no longer in the repositories.
 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/ubuntu-11-10-menu-goodbye/

 As for 11.04, indicator-me package is still in the repositories but
 when I added it and rebooted, it's done and on PCManFM, there is no
 File, Edit, etc ... I have no idea what happened.

 There is already some bugs and I commented on one of them but can't
 find it right now.
 I have asked that question because there is a case where there are 3
 different users are using the same PC and they want something to
 display the name of the current logged in user beside a feature to
 switch to another user.
 indicator-me package has 126 files to be downloaded and installed. I
 was wondering if it's impossible to use indicator me in 11.10, is
 there any other alternative?
Maybe (just a guess) it's because lxdm doesn't support switching user,
so adding indicator-session doesn't show the user name, because it's an
indicator for switching user.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

2011-12-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Micheal,

phillw@piglet:~$ lubuntu-software-center
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/local/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 31, in module
import src.main
ImportError: No module named src.main

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Michael Rawson
michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 18/12/11 13:00, Phill Whiteside wrote:

 Hi Stephen,

  as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong!

  1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool, so
 I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked.
 2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted that
 one out).

  The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but
 double clicking on it does nothing.

  You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :)

  I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in case
 it is of help to you.

  Regards,

  Phill.

 On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it 
 eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote:

 Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
 this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at http://lau
 nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
 Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.

 Regards

 Stephen Smally

 P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test.


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  Does running lubuntu-software-center from the terminal do anything?
 (i.e. is it the program or the desktop icon?)




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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2

2011-12-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Micheal,

Bug dutifully filed.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center/+bug/905953

Regards,

Phill.

On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Michael Rawson
michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote:

 Weird. That should probably be a /, as in src/main.py

 Would you mind filing a bug report?

 On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:13:31 +
 Phill Whiteside phi...@ubuntu.com wrote:

  Hi Micheal,
 
  phillw@piglet:~$ lubuntu-software-center
  Traceback (most recent call last):
File /usr/local/bin/lubuntu-software-center, line 31, in module
  import src.main
  ImportError: No module named src.main
 
  Regards,
 
  Phill.
 
  On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Michael Rawson
  michaelrawso...@gmail.comwrote:
 
On 18/12/11 13:00, Phill Whiteside wrote:
  
   Hi Stephen,
  
as usual, I'm no doubt doing something wrong!
  
1) 1st attempt at ./configure complained I had an out dated intltool,
 so
   I grabbed the current one from Synaptics. This then worked.
   2) 1st attemp at make install failed, no permissions (sudo !! sorted
 that
   one out).
  
The icon is in the System Tools area where I expected it to be, but
   double clicking on it does nothing.
  
You can't beat having an idiot to test stuff with :)
  
I've dumped the terminal output to http://pastebin.com/dWmEyNFP in
 case
   it is of help to you.
  
Regards,
  
Phill.
  
   On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 10:52 AM, eco.st...@fastwebnet.it 
   eco.st...@fastwebnet.it wrote:
  
   Ladies and Gentlemen, Lubuntu Software Center 0.0.2 is out!
   this is the first stable version, you can grab the tarball at
 http://lau
   nchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
   Now we need your tests, you comments and your hints.
  
   Regards
  
   Stephen Smally
  
   P.S. the PPA is always updated, but is recommended only for test.
  
  
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Differentiating between logged in users (was: Re: Me again :) )

2011-12-18 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 12/17/2011 12:59 PM, amjjawad HOOHAA wrote:

 ... there are 3 different users are using the same PC and they want
 something to display the name of the current logged in user beside a
 feature to switch to another user.


Sounds like all they really need is a way to tell each login from the
others.

A simple solution is to set each users desktop preferences to use a
different desktop wallpaper; which user is logged in will then be pretty
clear from the look of the screen.  For example, if you have three
users, you can set each of them to use one of

  /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/lxde_blue.jpg
  /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/lxde_green.jpg
  /usr/share/lxde/wallpapers/lxde_red.jpg

The difference between those is pretty obvious.  Each user will soon
recognize their own colour of wallpaper.

If you want to get fancy, use mtpaint to edit some wallpapers that have
the user's names on them, and then use those custom wallpapers, a
different one for each user :)

[You can set the wallpaper by right-clicking on the desktop, clicking on
Desktop Preferences, and then clicking on the folder icon to the right
of the Wallpaper: field in the Appearance tab of the Desktop
Preferences window. ]

Jonathan

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Me again :)

2011-12-18 Thread David Reimer
Here's a suggestion for the username in the panel: does each user get
their own settings for the panel? If so, then you could set up the
clock display like this:

%F | %R [Username]

(or however you like it) to display the user's name.

Just a thought...

On 16 December 2011 16:20, amjjawad HOOHAA amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 4- Like GNOME 2.xx (say Ubuntu 10.04), how can I add my username to the
 panel? is there anyway? in Ubuntu 10.04, I can see my username on the top
 panel but how hard or easy is it to do the same on Lubuntu?

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Docs team

2011-12-18 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi Lubunteers,

as always, an area that people just expect 'to happen', I noted that on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks#Current_Tasks_For_Anyone
Lubuntu
is not even mentioned. I know that we have had input into various areas in
the past... Is there any one willing to take this one on as P.O.C. (Point
Of Contact)? As said, I'll hold P.O.C. for the QA side, but we really do
need someone to step forward for this one.

Thanks,

Phill


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