[Lubuntu-desktop] Intersting Article

2010-03-09 Thread Glen Bizeau
I especially like the little list at the bottom

http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-a-resource-hog-949634.html

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Intersting Article

2010-03-09 Thread Dallas Wiebelhaus
Yes.

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Andrew Woodhead 
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com wrote:

 I don't contest the results but can someone explain how a lighter DE uses
 less power? Is it because the CPU is used less so takes less juice?
 Nice article though. KDE is really bloated and the Kubuntu team is quite
 small.

 -Andy


 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I especially like the little list at the bottom

 http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-a-resource-hog-949634.html

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Intersting Article

2010-03-09 Thread Leszek Lesner
Am Dienstag, 9. März 2010 14:50:06 schrieb Andrew Woodhead:
 I don't contest the results but can someone explain how a lighter DE uses
 less power? Is it because the CPU is used less so takes less juice?
 Nice article though. KDE is really bloated and the Kubuntu team is quite
 small.
 
 -Andy
 
 On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Glen Bizeau gbiz...@gmail.com wrote:
  I especially like the little list at the bottom
  
  http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/KDE-a-resource-hog-949634.html
  
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It is actually no difference in power consumption if you only run the desktop. 
If you look on phoronix (the original test) it said 0.2 Watts difference 
between the desktops. This is nothing. 

Last but not least I am very sceptical about this test. There is no 
processlist neither does it mention which apps they test under lxde and which 
under xfce or kde. 
Don't forget KDE uses nepomuk for search indexes. If this runs (@ 2 GB RAM you 
have plenty to use and it won't stop unless CPU is running out of ressources) 
it needs more memory.
I would advice anyone doing tests on there own. (I will do such a thing this 
week and release it on my blog)
All in all don't believe any test you didn't pay for. 
 

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[Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM2 and libfm is almost ready for 'feature freeze'.

2010-03-09 Thread PCMan
Hi list,
I released pcmanfm 0.9.2 + libfm 0.1.5 alpha.
The main change beside bug fixes is the ability to set default web
browser and mail client.
This is achieved via a new gio module. Now you can execute
libfm-pref-apps to see it.
By default it's hidden from applications menu if you're in Gnome, KDE, or XFCE.
I think it should work most of the times, except in kde programs.

As most of the planned features are already finished, other minor
things are left for the next major release.
Now it's time to declare 'feature freeze' for the first release.
Any objections?

After feature freeze, no new feature is going to be added in git
master branch (new feature is only allowed in other development
branches).
Please examine the English strings in both libfm and pcmanfm to see if
there are errors in spelling or grammar.
Later if no big problems are found, we'll enter 'string freeze'.

I plan to release the first beta before the end of March.
So, if there are serious bugs, please report.

Thank you all.

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM2 and libfm is almost ready for 'feature freeze'.

2010-03-09 Thread Julien Lavergne
Lubuntu PPA updated, last update (I hope) before the request for upload
in official repository.
+1 for the feature freeze, will be easier for the feature freeze
request :)
I tested quickly the new pref-apps, but it didn't recognize chromium.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne 

Le mercredi 10 mars 2010 à 01:48 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Hi list,
 I released pcmanfm 0.9.2 + libfm 0.1.5 alpha.
 The main change beside bug fixes is the ability to set default web
 browser and mail client.
 This is achieved via a new gio module. Now you can execute
 libfm-pref-apps to see it.
 By default it's hidden from applications menu if you're in Gnome, KDE, or 
 XFCE.
 I think it should work most of the times, except in kde programs.
 
 As most of the planned features are already finished, other minor
 things are left for the next major release.
 Now it's time to declare 'feature freeze' for the first release.
 Any objections?
 
 After feature freeze, no new feature is going to be added in git
 master branch (new feature is only allowed in other development
 branches).
 Please examine the English strings in both libfm and pcmanfm to see if
 there are errors in spelling or grammar.
 Later if no big problems are found, we'll enter 'string freeze'.
 
 I plan to release the first beta before the end of March.
 So, if there are serious bugs, please report.
 
 Thank you all.
 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] PCManFM2 and libfm is almost ready for 'feature freeze'.

2010-03-09 Thread PCMan
Then this could be a chromium bug as google chrome is correctly recognized.
Please make sure that chromium.desktop contains Categories=WebBrowser;...;.
WebBrowser category was used to recognize installed browsers, so the
missing category in desktop file might be the cause.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Julien Lavergne gi...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Lubuntu PPA updated, last update (I hope) before the request for upload
 in official repository.
 +1 for the feature freeze, will be easier for the feature freeze
 request :)
 I tested quickly the new pref-apps, but it didn't recognize chromium.

 Regards,
 Julien Lavergne

 Le mercredi 10 mars 2010 à 01:48 +0800, PCMan a écrit :
 Hi list,
 I released pcmanfm 0.9.2 + libfm 0.1.5 alpha.
 The main change beside bug fixes is the ability to set default web
 browser and mail client.
 This is achieved via a new gio module. Now you can execute
 libfm-pref-apps to see it.
 By default it's hidden from applications menu if you're in Gnome, KDE, or 
 XFCE.
 I think it should work most of the times, except in kde programs.

 As most of the planned features are already finished, other minor
 things are left for the next major release.
 Now it's time to declare 'feature freeze' for the first release.
 Any objections?

 After feature freeze, no new feature is going to be added in git
 master branch (new feature is only allowed in other development
 branches).
 Please examine the English strings in both libfm and pcmanfm to see if
 there are errors in spelling or grammar.
 Later if no big problems are found, we'll enter 'string freeze'.

 I plan to release the first beta before the end of March.
 So, if there are serious bugs, please report.

 Thank you all.

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Re: �P於 lxdm �F�r

2010-03-09 Thread PCMan
Hi all developers and users,
Earlier dgod and I discussed about the way lxdm handles $PATH
environment variable.
According to the suggestion from dgod, directly passing existing
environment variables to lxdm is not a good idea and PATH should be
restricted to /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin only.
However, this restriction breaks many system applications in ubuntu
and arch linux.
Without this restriction and if global env variables from the system
is directly used, things might go wrong in Fedora.
So, I'd like to ask that where the values of $PATH come from in Ubuntu
and Arch Linux and what's the better solution for this issue.

Anyone know how gdm handles this?

2010/3/10 dgod dgod@gmail.com:
 考虑到现代的linux都把sbin放到了默认环境变量里面,默认加入这些应该是可以的。
 如果考虑到使用全局预设的环境变量的需要,可以考虑加入一个新的环境变量LXDM_FORCE_PATH,如果设置了这个,那么session的环境变量可以设置成它
 这样不同的系统可以通过修改/usr/sbin/lxdm里的设置来调整,如export LXDM_FORCE_PATH=$PATH。

 事实上最好能确认在ubuntu等系统中,PATH到底是怎么生成的。

 在 2010年3月10日 下午12:23,PCMan pcman...@gmail.com写道:

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 2010/3/10 dgod dgod@gmail.com:
 
  首先/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usb/bin应该是所有unix的默认路径。如果系统需要修改这个,那么应该是在login的时候,自己在shell配置文件如/etc/profile之类的设置。比如fedora就是这样的,fedora现在也把/sbin等路径放到普通用户的PATH环境变量了。
  事实上我不认为把提供给系统服务用的环境变量直接提供给普通用户,有何意义。
 
  事实上原来用global的默认路径的时候,就有人在sf.net上报过相关bug,这会导致至少在fedora上设置出来的路径不合普通用户需要。
 
  ubuntu需要的话,或者可以修改配置文件中的PATH环境,或者单独对lxdm打个补丁。
 
  在 2010年3月10日 上午3:09,PCMan pcman...@gmail.com写道:
 
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