Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error

[Andrew Woodhead]

Sure, they are mirrored from the other servers. There are LOADS of key
servers, just that everyone seems hell bent to using one then wondering why
they get timeouts. I think its comical. The keys are added so that you know
the packages are from the maintainers repo. They are used to decrypt the
data (as far as I am aware), so a key is a key, as long as the data is
decrypted it is ok..

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:38 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:

> I am happy to do so, but is it a _safe_ place to get the keys from?
>
> I'd hate to send someone there and them have a problem, I'm sure you know
> what I mean in that regard as keys are important.
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
> andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah that server gets swamped due to every man and his dog using it. If
>> you use a different one then you will more than likely get a response. Go
>> underground baby, YEAH!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Andrew,
>>>
>>> that worked :-)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Phill.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
>>> andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
 sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p gp.mit.edu
  --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4

 Should be ok

 On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside 
 wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I
> include it at the bottom. Any ideas?
>
> (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys
> (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).*
> (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin
> those updates of ubuntu
> (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link
> (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D
> (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date
> (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic
> it gives me some errors
> (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the
> room.*
> (23:31:54) phillw: what errors?
> (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list
> of ubuntu
> (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on
> (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).*
> (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid
> Release: cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable
> (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable
> (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let
> me know what it says
> (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
> (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo
> ubuntu ??
> (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ?
> (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP
> fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host
> (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be
> checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error
> before when one of the servers for updates has been down.
> (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ??
> (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal?
> (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho
> (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why?
> (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a
> look at it and see if it is what you are seeing
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
> (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread
> (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks
> (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this
> commande but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver
> keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys XXkeyIDX
> (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read
> (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ?
> (23:51:43) ***phillw back
> (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb
> (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing?
> (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess
> (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
> (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal
> (23:53:41) phillw: okies,
> (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-)
> (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz
> (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you
> (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok
> (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.*
> (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
> (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers
> (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered
> the room.*
> (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
> (23:56:46) x

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error

[Phillip Whiteside]

I am happy to do so, but is it a _safe_ place to get the keys from?

I'd hate to send someone there and them have a problem, I'm sure you know
what I mean in that regard as keys are important.

Regards,

Phill.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:18 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Yeah that server gets swamped due to every man and his dog using it. If you
> use a different one then you will more than likely get a response. Go
> underground baby, YEAH!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Thanks Andrew,
>>
>> that worked :-)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
>> andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p gp.mit.edu
>>>  --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>>
>>> Should be ok
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi gang,

 I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I
 include it at the bottom. Any ideas?

 (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys
 (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).*
 (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin
 those updates of ubuntu
 (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link
 (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D
 (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date
 (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic
 it gives me some errors
 (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the
 room.*
 (23:31:54) phillw: what errors?
 (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of
 ubuntu
 (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on
 (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).*
 (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid
 Release: cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable
 (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable
 (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me
 know what it says
 (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
 (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo
 ubuntu ??
 (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ?
 (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP
 fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host
 (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be
 checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error
 before when one of the servers for updates has been down.
 (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ??
 (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal?
 (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho
 (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why?
 (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a
 look at it and see if it is what you are seeing
 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
 (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread
 (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks
 (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande
 but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
 keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys XXkeyIDX
 (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read
 (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ?
 (23:51:43) ***phillw back
 (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb
 (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing?
 (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess
 (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
 (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal
 (23:53:41) phillw: okies,
 (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-)
 (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz
 (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you
 (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok
 (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.*
 (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
 keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
 (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers
 (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered
 the room.*
 (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
 (23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
 (23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of
 (23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty
 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public
 key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
 (23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you.
 (23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok ill past to you the hole mesage but its french
 and we ll tanslate
 (23:58:53) xsaiddx: phillw: W: Erreur GPG?: http://ppa.launchpad.netluc

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error

[Andrew Woodhead]

Yeah that server gets swamped due to every man and his dog using it. If you
use a different one then you will more than likely get a response. Go
underground baby, YEAH!



On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:

> Thanks Andrew,
>
> that worked :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
> andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p gp.mit.edu
>>  --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>
>> Should be ok
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
>>
>>> Hi gang,
>>>
>>> I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I
>>> include it at the bottom. Any ideas?
>>>
>>> (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys
>>> (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).*
>>> (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin
>>> those updates of ubuntu
>>> (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link
>>> (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D
>>> (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx:
>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date
>>> (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic
>>> it gives me some errors
>>> (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the
>>> room.*
>>> (23:31:54) phillw: what errors?
>>> (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of
>>> ubuntu
>>> (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on
>>> (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).*
>>> (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid
>>> Release: cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable
>>> (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable
>>> (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me
>>> know what it says
>>> (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>>> (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo
>>> ubuntu ??
>>> (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ?
>>> (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP
>>> fetch error 7: couldn't connect to host
>>> (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be
>>> checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error
>>> before when one of the servers for updates has been down.
>>> (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ??
>>> (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal?
>>> (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho
>>> (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why?
>>> (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a
>>> look at it and see if it is what you are seeing
>>> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
>>> (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread
>>> (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks
>>> (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande
>>> but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
>>> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys XXkeyIDX
>>> (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read
>>> (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ?
>>> (23:51:43) ***phillw back
>>> (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb
>>> (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing?
>>> (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess
>>> (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>> (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal
>>> (23:53:41) phillw: okies,
>>> (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-)
>>> (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz
>>> (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you
>>> (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok
>>> (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.*
>>> (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
>>> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>> (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers
>>> (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the
>>> room.*
>>> (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
>>> (23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
>>> (23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of
>>> (23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty
>>> Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public
>>> key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
>>> (23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you.
>>> (23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok ill past to you the hole mesage but its french
>>> and we ll tanslate
>>> (23:58:53) xsaiddx: phillw: W: Erreur GPG?: http://ppa.launchpad.netlucid 
>>> Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu ?tre v?rifi?es car la
>>> cl? publique n'est pas disponible?: NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>> (23:59:37) xsaiddx: these signaturs coudnl be veified cus the public key
>>> its not available
>>> (23:59:38) phillw: the command should work
>>> (23:59:47) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
>>> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>>> (23:59:53) xsaiddx:

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error

[Phillip Whiteside]

Thanks Andrew,

that worked :-)

Regards,

Phill.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p gp.mit.edu
>  --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>
> Should be ok
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
>
>> Hi gang,
>>
>> I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I
>> include it at the bottom. Any ideas?
>>
>> (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys
>> (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).*
>> (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin
>> those updates of ubuntu
>> (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link
>> (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D
>> (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date
>> (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic it
>> gives me some errors
>> (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the
>> room.*
>> (23:31:54) phillw: what errors?
>> (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of
>> ubuntu
>> (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on
>> (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).*
>> (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release:
>> cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable
>> (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable
>> (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me
>> know what it says
>> (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
>> (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo
>> ubuntu ??
>> (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ?
>> (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP fetch
>> error 7: couldn't connect to host
>> (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be
>> checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error
>> before when one of the servers for updates has been down.
>> (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ??
>> (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal?
>> (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho
>> (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why?
>> (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a
>> look at it and see if it is what you are seeing
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
>> (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread
>> (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks
>> (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande
>> but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
>> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys XXkeyIDX
>> (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read
>> (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ?
>> (23:51:43) ***phillw back
>> (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb
>> (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing?
>> (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess
>> (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>> (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal
>> (23:53:41) phillw: okies,
>> (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-)
>> (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz
>> (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you
>> (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok
>> (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.*
>> (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
>> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>> (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers
>> (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the
>> room.*
>> (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
>> (23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
>> (23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of
>> (23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release:
>> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
>> available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
>> (23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you.
>> (23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok ill past to you the hole mesage but its french and
>> we ll tanslate
>> (23:58:53) xsaiddx: phillw: W: Erreur GPG?: http://ppa.launchpad.netlucid 
>> Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu ?tre v?rifi?es car la
>> cl? publique n'est pas disponible?: NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>> (23:59:37) xsaiddx: these signaturs coudnl be veified cus the public key
>> its not available
>> (23:59:38) phillw: the command should work
>> (23:59:47) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
>> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
>> (23:59:53) xsaiddx: k
>> (24/06/10 00:00:01) *sixpack75 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264
>> seconds).*
>> (00:00:13) phillw: you are requesting a key from the key server.
>> (00:01:14) xsaiddx: well now i have to add a epotsity of lubuntu right
>> then update ?
>> (00:01:45) phillw: how did you install lubuntu?
>> (00:02:22) *Al2 [...@164.108.231.222.mega

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] key error

[Andrew Woodhead]

sudo apt-key adv --keyserver p gp.mit.edu
 --recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4

Should be ok

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 12:25 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:

> Hi gang,
>
> I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I include
> it at the bottom. Any ideas?
>
> (23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys
> (23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).*
> (23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin those
> updates of ubuntu
> (23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link
> (23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D
> (23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date
> (23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic it
> gives me some errors
> (23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the
> room.*
> (23:31:54) phillw: what errors?
> (23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of
> ubuntu
> (23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on
> (23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).*
> (23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release:
> cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable
> (23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable
> (23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me
> know what it says
> (23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
> (23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo
> ubuntu ??
> (23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ?
> (23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP fetch
> error 7: couldn't connect to host
> (23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be
> checked, that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error
> before when one of the servers for updates has been down.
> (23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ??
> (23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal?
> (23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho
> (23:42:16) xsaiddx: why?
> (23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a look
> at it and see if it is what you are seeing
> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
> (23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread
> (23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks
> (23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande
> but idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys XXkeyIDX
> (23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read
> (23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ?
> (23:51:43) ***phillw back
> (23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb
> (23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing?
> (23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess
> (23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
> (23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal
> (23:53:41) phillw: okies,
> (23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-)
> (23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz
> (23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you
> (23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok
> (23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.*
> (23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
> (23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers
> (23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the
> room.*
> (23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
> (23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
> (23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of
> (23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release:
> The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
> available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
> (23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you.
> (23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok ill past to you the hole mesage but its french and
> we ll tanslate
> (23:58:53) xsaiddx: phillw: W: Erreur GPG?: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid
> Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu ?tre v?rifi?es car la cl?
> publique n'est pas disponible?: NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
> (23:59:37) xsaiddx: these signaturs coudnl be veified cus the public key
> its not available
> (23:59:38) phillw: the command should work
> (23:59:47) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver 
> keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
> (23:59:53) xsaiddx: k
> (24/06/10 00:00:01) *sixpack75 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264
> seconds).*
> (00:00:13) phillw: you are requesting a key from the key server.
> (00:01:14) xsaiddx: well now i have to add a epotsity of lubuntu right
> then update ?
> (00:01:45) phillw: how did you install lubuntu?
> (00:02:22) *Al2 [...@164.108.231.222.megaegg.ne.jp] entered the room.*
> (00:02:22) xsaiddx: i was on ubuntu then installed the meta package
> lubuntu-desktop
> (00:04:00) phillw: ahh,. you need to follow
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ub

[Lubuntu-desktop] key error

[Phillip Whiteside]

Hi gang,

I have an OP on with a problem, the pastebin is due to expire, so I include
it at the bottom. Any ideas?

(23:26:47) xsaiddx: hello guys
(23:26:55) *gilir left the room (quit: Quit: Ex-Chat).*
(23:27:31) xsaiddx: how can i keep lubuntu updated cus i keep gettin those
updates of ubuntu
(23:29:43) phillw: hi xsaiddx, one moment, i'll go get the link
(23:30:06) xsaiddx: phillw: okies : D
(23:30:28) phillw: xsaiddx:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Keep%20Lubuntu%20up-to-date
(23:31:45) xsaiddx: yeh i did that and when i push update via synaptic it
gives me some errors
(23:31:53) *vitium1 [~starc...@81-86-175-58.dsl.pipex.com] entered the room.
*
(23:31:54) phillw: what errors?
(23:32:00) xsaiddx: and can i take of those lines in the source list of
ubuntu
(23:32:06) xsaiddx: hang on
(23:32:43) *vitium left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 245 seconds).*
(23:34:52) xsaiddx: its error GPG http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release:
cant verify those signatues cus the public key its unavailable
(23:36:17) xsaiddx: signatures beacause the public key its unavailable
(23:36:44) phillw: xsaiddx: can you try this from a terminal and let me know
what it says
(23:36:46) phillw: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
(23:37:33) xsaiddx: did it just now and can i take off those lines fo ubuntu
??
(23:37:45) xsaiddx: in the source-list file ?
(23:38:35) xsaiddx: is gives me this and sumthin else gpgkeys: HTTP fetch
error 7: couldn't connect to host
(23:39:15) phillw: I'm not sure what you have in your listing to be checked,
that command will give you the lubuntu one, I've seen that error before when
one of the servers for updates has been down.
(23:40:30) xsaiddx: ahh and can i give you my source list file ??
(23:40:52) phillw: how familiar are you with the terminal?
(23:41:52) xsaiddx: and i kno the basic commandes tho
(23:42:16) xsaiddx: why?
(23:43:55) phillw: there is a thread on such things happening, take a look
at it and see if it is what you are seeing
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1221323.html
(23:44:12) phillw: If that is not it, I will look for another thread
(23:44:19) xsaiddx: ok thanks
(23:49:14) xsaiddx: i ead that i have to put the key into this commande but
idont kno how sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
XXkeyIDX
(23:49:22) xsaiddx: i read
(23:51:32) xsaiddx: phillw: hello you there ?
(23:51:43) ***phillw back
(23:51:56) xsaiddx: wb
(23:52:19) phillw: do you see which key is failing?
(23:52:33) xsaiddx: yess
(23:53:26) xsaiddx: here NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
(23:53:39) xsaiddx: but how ican type it in hexadecimal
(23:53:41) phillw: okies,
(23:53:51) phillw: it is already in hex :-)
(23:54:14) xsaiddx: :ZzZz
(23:54:16) phillw: give me a moment to get the exact command for you
(23:54:21) xsaiddx: ok
(23:54:54) *n00bomatic2 left the room.*
(23:55:06) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver
keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
(23:55:24) ***phillw crosses fingers
(23:55:43) *n00bomatic [~cyp...@g227070039.adsl.alicedsl.de] entered the
room.*
(23:56:05) xsaiddx: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
(23:56:46) xsaiddx: phillw: shud i replace ubuntu with lubuntu ??
(23:57:00) phillw: xsaiddx: can you post up your full version of
(23:57:02) phillw: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release:
The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not
available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
(23:57:48) phillw: the whole line is what i need from you.
(23:58:19) xsaiddx: ok ill past to you the hole mesage but its french and we
ll tanslate
(23:58:53) xsaiddx: phillw: W: Erreur GPG?: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid
Release: Les signatures suivantes n'ont pas pu ?tre v?rifi?es car la cl?
publique n'est pas disponible?: NO_PUBKEY ACC3E225CF57B0F4
(23:59:37) xsaiddx: these signaturs coudnl be veified cus the public key its
not available
(23:59:38) phillw: the command should work
(23:59:47) phillw: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver
keyserver.ubuntu.com--recv-keys ACC3E225CF57B0F4
(23:59:53) xsaiddx: k
(24/06/10 00:00:01) *sixpack75 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264
seconds).*
(00:00:13) phillw: you are requesting a key from the key server.
(00:01:14) xsaiddx: well now i have to add a epotsity of lubuntu right then
update ?
(00:01:45) phillw: how did you install lubuntu?
(00:02:22) *Al2 [...@164.108.231.222.megaegg.ne.jp] entered the room.*
(00:02:22) xsaiddx: i was on ubuntu then installed the meta package
lubuntu-desktop
(00:04:00) phillw: ahh,. you need to follow
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp#Install%20Lubuntu%20from%20Ubuntu%20or%20any%20Ubuntu%20flavors
(00:04:16) phillw: you would have gotten out dated stuff
(00:04:23) *Al1 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds).*
(00:05:04) xsaiddx: okay il try it
(00:05:24) phillw: those instructions do work
(00:06:29) xsaiddx: yeh well i tried in lil whole but it takes much time
then failed
(00:07:07) xsaiddx: in lil while ago but ..

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Phillip Whiteside]

As ever, pcman, a good point. Yeah, we *need *to keep a music player. I like
DeadBeef, it's low resource usage means that my laptop hardly knows it is
running :-)

Regards,

Phill.



On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:19 PM, PCMan  wrote:

> 1. Given you have proper codecs and audio libs installed for mplayer,
> adding a music player won't bring many addiional dependencies since
> they are already there.
> 2. Usability matters. If you consider user interface, gnome-mplayer is
> a nice video player but it's really a bad music player. It's even
> difficult for the users to find that gnome-mplayer actually plays
> music.
> 3. Playing music and video are quite different things.  The focus of
> video player is smooth image processing, and the focus of music player
> should be playlists management. It's quite often that you have more
> than 100 songs in playlist, but normally you won't put 100 video files
> in play queue and play them one by one. Music player and video player
> are totally for different purpose.
> 4. If someone still remember, winamp 5, the famous music player on
> Windows in the past tried to support video playback, but do people use
> it? It's still mostly used as music player.
>
> Unless your goal is something that can fit 100 mb cd, I think that
> removing music player is not a valid approach to a desktop focusing on
> usability.
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> > Le jeudi 24 juin 2010 à 00:13 +0300, Andrew a écrit :
> >> I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
> >> playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it
> >> can play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a
> >> media player such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default
> >> for UNE sometime) because it can play both music and video files. And
> >> that does make sense: a media player instead of both a video and a
> >> music player.
> >
> > Someone suggested this to me : keep only a video player which plays
> > music and drop the music player. And I must admit that the option is a
> > valid one. gnome-mplayer can do all the job.
> > Another (bad) example, Windows have only a media player, not a video +
> > music player.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Julien Lavergne
> >
> >
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[PCMan]

1. Given you have proper codecs and audio libs installed for mplayer,
adding a music player won't bring many addiional dependencies since
they are already there.
2. Usability matters. If you consider user interface, gnome-mplayer is
a nice video player but it's really a bad music player. It's even
difficult for the users to find that gnome-mplayer actually plays
music.
3. Playing music and video are quite different things.  The focus of
video player is smooth image processing, and the focus of music player
should be playlists management. It's quite often that you have more
than 100 songs in playlist, but normally you won't put 100 video files
in play queue and play them one by one. Music player and video player
are totally for different purpose.
4. If someone still remember, winamp 5, the famous music player on
Windows in the past tried to support video playback, but do people use
it? It's still mostly used as music player.

Unless your goal is something that can fit 100 mb cd, I think that
removing music player is not a valid approach to a desktop focusing on
usability.

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 5:44 AM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
> Le jeudi 24 juin 2010 à 00:13 +0300, Andrew a écrit :
>> I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
>> playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it
>> can play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a
>> media player such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default
>> for UNE sometime) because it can play both music and video files. And
>> that does make sense: a media player instead of both a video and a
>> music player.
>
> Someone suggested this to me : keep only a video player which plays
> music and drop the music player. And I must admit that the option is a
> valid one. gnome-mplayer can do all the job.
> Another (bad) example, Windows have only a media player, not a video +
> music player.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Andrew]

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 00:44, Julien Lavergne  wrote:
>> I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
>> playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it
>> can play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a
>> media player such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default
>> for UNE sometime) because it can play both music and video files. And
>> that does make sense: a media player instead of both a video and a
>> music player.

> Someone suggested this to me : keep only a video player which plays
> music and drop the music player. And I must admit that the option is a
> valid one. gnome-mplayer can do all the job.
> Another (bad) example, Windows have only a media player, not a video +
> music player.

That seems like a good idea until people try Deadbeef... I suggested it to a
few people and they all loved it. It seems a perfect choice for a light
distro and I'd say: go for it in 10.10. But that is just my personal
opinion.

And some other point to consider: some old computers can't even play some
videos properly due to very old hardware, while all can play music. That's
why I was thinking about Xnoise: a music player that can play videos too
seems better than a video player that can play music.
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Phillip Whiteside]

Hi,
My only enquiry for that would be what resources gnome-mplayer needs to play
background music / streamed radio stations versus what DeadBeef uses? (I
love music while I work :-) )

Regards,

Phill.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Julien Lavergne  wrote:

> Le jeudi 24 juin 2010 à 00:13 +0300, Andrew a écrit :
> > I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
> > playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it
> > can play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a
> > media player such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default
> > for UNE sometime) because it can play both music and video files. And
> > that does make sense: a media player instead of both a video and a
> > music player.
>
> Someone suggested this to me : keep only a video player which plays
> music and drop the music player. And I must admit that the option is a
> valid one. gnome-mplayer can do all the job.
> Another (bad) example, Windows have only a media player, not a video +
> music player.
>
> Regards,
> Julien Lavergne
>
>
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Julien Lavergne]

Le jeudi 24 juin 2010 à 00:13 +0300, Andrew a écrit :
> I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
> playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it
> can play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a
> media player such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default
> for UNE sometime) because it can play both music and video files. And
> that does make sense: a media player instead of both a video and a
> music player.

Someone suggested this to me : keep only a video player which plays
music and drop the music player. And I must admit that the option is a
valid one. gnome-mplayer can do all the job.
Another (bad) example, Windows have only a media player, not a video +
music player.

Regards,
Julien Lavergne


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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Phillip Whiteside]

I also like DeadBeef, with a little encouragement and probably a bit of help
from those in the know I do not think that importing playlists to it is an
unsurmountable problem. Not being a coder, I can not say that 100%, but
players _can_ import different playlists so it is "do-able".

Regards,

Phill.
P.S. sorry Andrew, I didn't put reply to all, so you will get this twice :-(

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Andrew  wrote:

> I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
> playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it can
> play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a media player
> such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default for UNE sometime)
> because it can play both music and video files. And that does make sense: a
> media player instead of both a video and a music player.
>
> But Xnoise is still too young and incomplete for now (at least for the
> video part).
>
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 00:03, Andrew Woodhead <
> andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'd still shoot for deadbeef. It does seem to do the job better imho even
>> for a defecit of 3Mb.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Glenn de Groot <
>> glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  From: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>>> To: pcman...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>>> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:46 +
>>>
>>> Sorry, it doesn´t use python.
>>> I got confused by misreading this part of an article:
>>>
>>> xnoise is written in vala. This means it is compiled to pure Gobject/C
>>> and therfore very fast and lightweight *compared with other music
>>> players written in mono or python.*
>>>
>>> I already thought it was kinda strange since it did not come with python
>>> dependencies. :P
>>> So it does use about 4 or 5 mb of ram.
>>>
>>> -Glenn
>>>
>>> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:37:38 +0800
>>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>>> > From: pcman...@gmail.com
>>> > To: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>>> > CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>>> >
>>> > Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
>>> > You forgot to count the python runtime in.
>>> > The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
>>> > Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
>>> > mb, but that's not true.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
>>> >  wrote:
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > > found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
>>> > > It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
>>> > > Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting
>>> decrease) and
>>> > > xnoise uses 5.7.
>>> > > It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays
>>> video´s
>>> > > but it is aimed as a music player.
>>> > > website:
>>> > > http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
>>> > >
>>> > > Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
>>> > > -Glenn
>>> > > 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Andrew]

I just love DeadBeef... I only miss one thing: being able to import
playlists form other music players. Xnoise is interesting because it can
play videos too and from what I've read, Ubuntu is targeting a media player
such as Banshee (it's being considered to be made default for UNE sometime)
because it can play both music and video files. And that does make sense: a
media player instead of both a video and a music player.

But Xnoise is still too young and incomplete for now (at least for the video
part).

On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 00:03, Andrew Woodhead <
andrew.woodhead...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> I'd still shoot for deadbeef. It does seem to do the job better imho even
> for a defecit of 3Mb.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Glenn de Groot <
> glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  From: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>> To: pcman...@gmail.com
>> Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:46 +
>>
>> Sorry, it doesn´t use python.
>> I got confused by misreading this part of an article:
>>
>> xnoise is written in vala. This means it is compiled to pure Gobject/C and
>> therfore very fast and lightweight *compared with other music players
>> written in mono or python.*
>>
>> I already thought it was kinda strange since it did not come with python
>> dependencies. :P
>> So it does use about 4 or 5 mb of ram.
>>
>> -Glenn
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:37:38 +0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>> > From: pcman...@gmail.com
>> > To: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>> > CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>> >
>> > Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
>> > You forgot to count the python runtime in.
>> > The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
>> > Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
>> > mb, but that's not true.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
>> >  wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > > found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
>> > > It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
>> > > Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting decrease)
>> and
>> > > xnoise uses 5.7.
>> > > It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays
>> video´s
>> > > but it is aimed as a music player.
>> > > website:
>> > > http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
>> > >
>> > > Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
>> > > -Glenn
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Andrew Woodhead]

I'd still shoot for deadbeef. It does seem to do the job better imho even
for a defecit of 3Mb.


On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Glenn de Groot
wrote:

>  From: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
> To: pcman...@gmail.com
> Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:46 +
>
> Sorry, it doesn´t use python.
> I got confused by misreading this part of an article:
>
> xnoise is written in vala. This means it is compiled to pure Gobject/C and
> therfore very fast and lightweight *compared with other music players
> written in mono or python.*
>
> I already thought it was kinda strange since it did not come with python
> dependencies. :P
> So it does use about 4 or 5 mb of ram.
>
> -Glenn
>
> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:37:38 +0800
> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
> > From: pcman...@gmail.com
> > To: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
> > CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> >
> > Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
> > You forgot to count the python runtime in.
> > The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
> > Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
> > mb, but that's not true.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
> >  wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
> > > It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
> > > Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting decrease)
> and
> > > xnoise uses 5.7.
> > > It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays
> video´s
> > > but it is aimed as a music player.
> > > website:
> > > http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
> > >
> > > Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
> > > -Glenn
> > > 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Andrew]

In the first preview version you couldn't add folders because of a bug, but
it has been fixed in a later version.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 23:03, Sylkis  wrote:

> I tried that xnoise and personally have problems with getting it working.
> it launches, but it doesn't read playlists, and trying it to add folders
> with music makes it hanged. anyway, I can't have it play anything, so it
> looks like deadbeef is easier to use, and thus I'd stick with it :)
>
> 2010/6/23 Sylkis 
>
>> this looks really nice. since temporairly I use regular ubuntu with no
>> lubuntu, I have to first update myself (karmic to lucid), because of some
>> dependiences, to chceck it out. but looks it really encouraging :)
>>
>> 2010/6/23 Glenn de Groot 
>>
>>  From: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>>> To: pcman...@gmail.com
>>> Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>>> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:46 +
>>>
>>> Sorry, it doesn´t use python.
>>> I got confused by misreading this part of an article:
>>>
>>> xnoise is written in vala. This means it is compiled to pure Gobject/C
>>> and therfore very fast and lightweight *compared with other music
>>> players written in mono or python.*
>>>
>>> I already thought it was kinda strange since it did not come with python
>>> dependencies. :P
>>> So it does use about 4 or 5 mb of ram.
>>>
>>> -Glenn
>>>
>>> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:37:38 +0800
>>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>>> > From: pcman...@gmail.com
>>> > To: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>>> > CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
>>> > You forgot to count the python runtime in.
>>> > The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
>>> > Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
>>> > mb, but that's not true.
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
>>> >  wrote:
>>> > > Hello,
>>> > > found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
>>> > > It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
>>> > > Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting
>>> decrease) and
>>> > > xnoise uses 5.7.
>>> > > It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays
>>> video´s
>>> > > but it is aimed as a music player.
>>> > > website:
>>> > > http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
>>> > >
>>> > > Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
>>> > > -Glenn
>>> > > 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Sylkis]

I tried that xnoise and personally have problems with getting it working. it
launches, but it doesn't read playlists, and trying it to add folders with
music makes it hanged. anyway, I can't have it play anything, so it looks
like deadbeef is easier to use, and thus I'd stick with it :)

2010/6/23 Sylkis 

> this looks really nice. since temporairly I use regular ubuntu with no
> lubuntu, I have to first update myself (karmic to lucid), because of some
> dependiences, to chceck it out. but looks it really encouraging :)
>
> 2010/6/23 Glenn de Groot 
>
>  From: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>> To: pcman...@gmail.com
>> Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:46 +
>>
>> Sorry, it doesn´t use python.
>> I got confused by misreading this part of an article:
>>
>> xnoise is written in vala. This means it is compiled to pure Gobject/C and
>> therfore very fast and lightweight *compared with other music players
>> written in mono or python.*
>>
>> I already thought it was kinda strange since it did not come with python
>> dependencies. :P
>> So it does use about 4 or 5 mb of ram.
>>
>> -Glenn
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:37:38 +0800
>> > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
>> > From: pcman...@gmail.com
>> > To: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
>> > CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
>>
>> >
>> > Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
>> > You forgot to count the python runtime in.
>> > The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
>> > Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
>> > mb, but that's not true.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
>> >  wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>> > > found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
>> > > It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
>> > > Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting decrease)
>> and
>> > > xnoise uses 5.7.
>> > > It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays
>> video´s
>> > > but it is aimed as a music player.
>> > > website:
>> > > http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
>> > >
>> > > Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
>> > > -Glenn
>> > > 
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[Lubuntu-desktop] FW: Another interesting music player

[Glenn de Groot]

From: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
To: pcman...@gmail.com
Subject: RE: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 16:56:46 +








Sorry, it doesn´t use python.I got confused by misreading this part of an 
article:
xnoise is written in vala. This means it is compiled to pure Gobject/C and 
therfore very fast and lightweight compared with other music players written in 
mono or python.

I already thought it was kinda strange since it did not come with python 
dependencies. :PSo it does use about 4 or 5 mb of ram.
-Glenn
> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 00:37:38 +0800
> Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player
> From: pcman...@gmail.com
> To: glenn_de_gr...@hotmail.com
> CC: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net
> 
> Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
> You forgot to count the python runtime in.
> The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
> Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
> mb, but that's not true.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
>  wrote:
> > Hello,
> > found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
> > It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
> > Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting decrease) and
> > xnoise uses 5.7.
> > It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays video´s
> > but it is aimed as a music player.
> > website:
> > http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
> >
> > Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
> > -Glenn
> > 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player

[PCMan]

Something using python never uses less memory than a C program.
You forgot to count the python runtime in.
The whole python runtime sometimes consumes more than 20 mb.
Of course, if you only count the little script in, it uses less than 5
mb, but that's not true.

On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Glenn de Groot
 wrote:
> Hello,
> found another interesting music player called Xnoise.
> It uses 4.5 mb of ram on start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.
> Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an mp3 (interesting decrease) and
> xnoise uses 5.7.
> It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays video´s
> but it is aimed as a music player.
> website:
> http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/
>
> Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
> -Glenn
> 
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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player

[Leszek Lesner]

Am 23.06.2010 15:25, schrieb Glenn de Groot:
> 
> Hello,
> found another interesting music player called Xnoise.It uses 4.5 mb of ram on 
> start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing 
> an mp3 (interesting decrease) and xnoise uses 5.7.
> It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays video´s 
> but it is aimed as a music player.
> website:
> http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/

Gstreamer is the problem here. A very big dependency. I am also against
mixing mplayer (+w32codec pack) for video with gstreamer apps for audio

> 
> Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
> -Glenn  
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Another interesting music player

[Glenn de Groot]

Hello,
found another interesting music player called Xnoise.It uses 4.5 mb of ram on 
start up while deadbeef uses 11 mb.Deadbeef also uses 10.8 mb while playing an 
mp3 (interesting decrease) and xnoise uses 5.7.
It´s a gtk app coded in Python and uses gstreamer so it also plays video´s but 
it is aimed as a music player.
website:
http://code.google.com/p/xnoise/

Just thought it´s an interesting little app. ;)
-Glenn
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