Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing

[Julien Lavergne]

Thanks for the complete review, I'll try to answer each comments :

Le 26/09/2011 22:15, Ali Linx a écrit :
> 1- Try Lubuntu without installation does not work and drop you to CLI.
> Typing "*starx*"  command will take you to LXDE Desktop with LXDE
> wallpaper instead of Lubuntu Desktop. There is an icon on the LXDE
> Desktop to Install Lubuntu.
>
See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/854837
It would be very useful to provide more information about it, as it
seems to affect more people and more configuratiosn than I though.

> 4- Choose a Picture during the installation process simple does
> nothing. Even when I took a picture, it didn't show it on the preview
> small box. 
> http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8210
> 
>
> Apparently, it's a new feature but I'm not sure how does it work?
It's currently not supported. How do you find to this screen using the
installer ?

> 5- "Removable Medium is inserted" pop-up window during installation.
> Not sure if that's a bug or something?!
> http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8211
> 
It should not happen if you don't do anything like plug in a new media.
Is it reproducible ? Are you using a USB stick or a live CD ?

> 6- Continue Testing OR Reboot > Reboot > Please remove installation
> media and press Enter - Not Responding when Press Enter > Force Reboot
> - Ctrl+Alt+Del > "Press Enter to reboot msg" > Reboot Done.
>
> Not sure if that's an error or something but I recall I got the same
> with other LiveCD and other Distros, mainly Ubuntu-Based.
Yes, sometime it doesn't work, but it's safe to just reboot by hand.

> 7- Wallpapers are really nice and getting better. Good job :)
Thanks, we have great artists around here ;-)

> 8- Sometimes, the menu doesn't disappear even after making a
> selection: http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8205
> 
> Clicking on the desktop does nothing. I had to go to menu and click
> there twice and then it disappeared.
That would be nice to have a test case, when it's always reproducible. I
can't currently reproduce it.

> 9- Looks like "Enable Networking" and "Enable Wireless" does
> nothing: http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8204
> 
> It's not 'ticked' or 'selected'. Looks like a bug?
Seems a bug yes, but only a display bug. Is the network working for you ?

> 10- Customize Look and Feel > Window Border > No Preview
> http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8207
> 
Thanks, bug reported :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxappearance-obconf/+bug/860105

> 11- Some apps are not installed. I suggest to include these apps.
> IMHO, I see it's good to have these:
> a- *numlockx*
It's not installed on Ubuntu also, and I'm not sure it's working nicely
with lxdm.

> b- *dnsmasq *(http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31326
> )
dnsmasq-base, which contains the dnsmasq program is installed by
default, its should be sufficient in this case.

> c- *GParted*
This one is for advanced usages, an average user should not have to
touch the partitions after the installation. Ubuntu do the same thing.
You can still install it after the installation.

> d- *Flash Player*
Proprietary software, we can't include it by default.

> 12- LSC installed:
>
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center
>
> I'm finding it a bit hard to deal with. For example, you need to
> Double Click on a Category and it takes sometime until the contents
> show up. Search Box is disabled until you choose a Category and that
> means if you don't know in which Category the application or program
> you want is included then you need to select "All". I was looking for
> Firefox to install but couldn't easily find it because I got many
> selections. Not to mention I got some Crash Error and it was asking to
> report this problem.
Please report the bugs directly under the LSC project :
https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-software-center
The problem of the search box should be fixed in the last revision.

> 13- Crash Report sometimes with Chromium and PCManFM.
Some pcmanfm crashes have been identified, but ususally you should just
let apport reporting bugs.

> 14- I see too many themes, widget, etc are installed by default. I
> suggest (IMHO) to remove the extra themes and give users the choice to
> install these after installing Lubuntu 11.10 in case they want to.
> Perhaps PPA for all these extra themes? won't that reduce some size?
> perhaps I'm wrong and it's just a suggestion.
It's the themes by defa

Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc pause

[Julien Lavergne]

Le 26/09/2011 21:19, Stefano a écrit :
> Ok, i'm switched to debian (xubuntu damaged) and i noticed that apt_pkg has 
> changed a lot of functions names (what a mess).
> so i will restart to work on lsc when Lubuntu 11.10 will be released 
> (something like 14 days i think), to test it better.
Why not taking this time to release a 0.1 version of LSC, so you can
collect feedback in the meantime ?

Regards,
Julien Lavergne

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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 - Testing

[Ali Linx]

Hi everyone,

This is my first email to the list and this is my first test ever so please,
be patient :)

I have two Test Desktop PCs, each with P4 @3.0GHz but one with 2GB RAM and
the other with 512MB RAM (with the ability to share its RAM).

---
*Test No.1*
---
PC: P4 3.0GHz - 2GB RAM - 40GB IDE HDD - Intel Graphics Card *(driver=i915)
*
Media: Lubuntu 11.10 Beta 2 LiveCD - 32 bit
---

Notes:
1- Try Lubuntu without installation does not work and drop you to CLI.
Typing "*starx*"  command will take you to LXDE Desktop with LXDE wallpaper
instead of Lubuntu Desktop. There is an icon on the LXDE Desktop to Install
Lubuntu.

Reboot done ...

2- Install Lubuntu Option > Quit > Quit > Lubuntu Desktop. Please note that
I used to do the same with Lubuntu 11.04.

3- I chose "Something Else" and created a new Partition (sda9) with
*3.91GB*from un-allocated disk space. Please note that I'm
Multi-Booting several
Distros on this test PC. GRUB was installed into sda9 not MBR (sda).
Installation was smooth and errors-free.
> After 
> Installation<

4- Choose a Picture during the installation process simple does nothing.
Even when I took a picture, it didn't show it on the preview small box.
http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8210

Apparently, it's a new feature but I'm not sure how does it work?

5- "Removable Medium is inserted" pop-up window during installation. Not
sure if that's a bug or something?!
http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8211

6- Continue Testing OR Reboot > Reboot > Please remove installation media
and press Enter - Not Responding when Press Enter > Force Reboot -
Ctrl+Alt+Del > "Press Enter to reboot msg" > Reboot Done.

Not sure if that's an error or something but I recall I got the same with
other LiveCD and other Distros, mainly Ubuntu-Based.

Installation done ... rebooted.

7- Wallpapers are really nice and getting better. Good job :)

8- Sometimes, the menu doesn't disappear even after making a selection:
http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8205
Clicking on the desktop does nothing. I had to go to menu and click there
twice and then it disappeared.

9- Looks like "Enable Networking" and "Enable Wireless" does nothing:
http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8204
It's not 'ticked' or 'selected'. Looks like a bug?

10- Customize Look and Feel > Window Border > No Preview
http://ubuntuforums.org/picture.php?albumid=2432&pictureid=8207

11- Some apps are not installed. I suggest to include these apps. IMHO, I
see it's good to have these:
a- *numlockx*
b- *dnsmasq *(http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=31326)
c- *GParted*
d- *Flash Player*

12- LSC installed:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lubuntu-desktop/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install lubuntu-software-center

I'm finding it a bit hard to deal with. For example, you need to Double
Click on a Category and it takes sometime until the contents show up. Search
Box is disabled until you choose a Category and that means if you don't know
in which Category the application or program you want is included then you
need to select "All". I was looking for Firefox to install but couldn't
easily find it because I got many selections. Not to mention I got some
Crash Error and it was asking to report this problem.

13- Crash Report sometimes with Chromium and PCManFM.

14- I see too many themes, widget, etc are installed by default. I suggest
(IMHO) to remove the extra themes and give users the choice to install these
after installing Lubuntu 11.10 in case they want to. Perhaps PPA for all
these extra themes? won't that reduce some size? perhaps I'm wrong and it's
just a suggestion.

---

Ok, that's all for now.
I'm also done with two other tests on the other PC, one from LiveCD and the
other from LiveUSB. Got some stuff to share with you but guess that will be
later because I must go now.

Thank you for your time :)

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Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc pause

[Matthew Byers]

JFYI from a developer's viewpoint, 14 days of in-activity is quite some
time! I would suggest actually installing say Lubuntu 11.04 and continue on
progress. Especially to get a effective working release of LSC for in time
of Lubuntu release. Just my two cents.

On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Stefano  wrote:

> Ok, i'm switched to debian (xubuntu damaged) and i noticed that apt_pkg has
> changed a lot of functions names (what a mess).
> so i will restart to work on lsc when Lubuntu 11.10 will be released
> (something like 14 days i think), to test it better.
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen Smally
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[Lubuntu-desktop] Lsc pause

[Stefano]

Ok, i'm switched to debian (xubuntu damaged) and i noticed that apt_pkg has 
changed a lot of functions names (what a mess).
so i will restart to work on lsc when Lubuntu 11.10 will be released (something 
like 14 days i think), to test it better.

Regards

Stephen Smally

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